Your Favorite God and Why.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Or another reason is that they dont want the pyschological damage of thinking they are going to burn 1000s of years in hell for doign nothing wrong!

Well, if the really believed that then suddenly deciding to switch religion wouldn't stop you believeing it...its like, I dont like the idea of hell, so I am going to become a Hindu.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Religion is supposed to be fun and if you are serious sacrifices should be made

When you say fun, do you mean that its more of a passtime for you rather than something which you actually stictly believe to be true?

Originally posted by Alfheim
but you should at least understand why you are doing and want to do it. Compare that to the things that women have to do in Islam for example.

I think alot of women followers of Islam do want to do what they do.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well, if the really believed that then suddenly deciding to switch religion wouldn't stop you believeing it...its like, I dont like the idea of hell, so I am going to become a Hindu.

Well its like this. I belive In Allah, Jehovah, Zeus, Odin and Thor. All religons are SUPPOSED to teach the same truth ultmiately but the religon you choose is your indivdiual truth. I ultimately think the religon we choose is who we are, its not just a matter of preference there is a spirtual reason why we are drawn towards certain religons.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav

When you say fun, do you mean that its more of a passtime for you rather than something which you actually stictly believe to be true?

Ok this is what I mean thinking that your going to go to hell because:

1. You havent got a beard.
2. You trousers go beyond you ankle.
3. If you go to Universcityity with women
4. The rest of the other stupid nonsense they tell you that you have to do.

Hell if you want to be good at anything you ahve to make sacrifices the difference betweeen Heatheism and Abrahimic religons is that the rules are common sense "treat others how you want to be treated", you dont have rules that dont make any sense and are unproductive.

The reason why you have so much dogma in Abrahimic religons (I know this is not the case for all people) is because they were used to control people, where as Heathenism was just the religon of the Norse people

How do I feel about religon? Well its like this I havent officilay accepted Heathensim yet but im quite sure I will accept it fully in the future. I take religon very serioulsy and I belive I should sacrifice my life if I had to but at the sametime religon should be fun as well.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav

I think alot of women followers of Islam do want to do what they do.

Yawn.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well its like this. I belive In Allah, Jehovah, Zeus, Odin and Thor. All religons are SUPPOSED to teach the same truth ultmiately but the religon you choose is your indivdiual truth. I ultimately think the religon we choose is who we are, its not just a matter of preference there is a spirtual reason why we are drawn towards certain religons.

How do atheists and agnostics fit in?

Originally posted by Alliance
Where is that from?

Originally posted by Bardock42
How do atheists and agnostics fit in?

mmmmm well. Well Its just a theory but I think to an extent reiigion is like sexuality. The reason why some people are atheist is not always logical its just their personality.

So basically you are athiest because you are supposed to be atheist and thats it.

Originally posted by Alfheim
mmmmm well. Well Its just a theory but I think to an extent reiigion is like sexuality. The reason why some people are atheist is not always logical its just their personality.

So basically you are athiest because you are supposed to be atheist and thats it.

Supposed by what?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Supposed by what?

Your personality. Some people are gay some people are not. Some people like jam some people like marmalade. *shrug*

Originally posted by Alfheim
Your personality. Some people are gay some people are not. Some people like jam some people like marmalade. *shrug*

Originally posted by Bardock42
But you basically believe that all Religious believes are correct?

It seems so...

Kali...

...because in an exotic, scary kinda way...

...she's hot.

😉

Originally posted by Bardock42
But you basically believe that all Religious believes are correct?

Yes.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes.

A sort of "Stranger in a Strange Land" belief....

Originally posted by Bardock42
A sort of "Stranger in a Strange Land" belief....

Sorry dont get you.

Anyway this is what I think of atheism, bare in mind of course im open to changing my mind, im not asking you to refute what im saying but to understand.

This is what atheism is to me....its like looking at something and only seeing half of it. Ok lets say reality is a six sided dice. An athiest would only see three sides but the spritual person would see all six sides of the dice. But because you only sere three sides this affects your view of reality, its a limiting point of view. (best analogy I could think of off the top of my head)

I also think that the concept of atheism will evolve. I think we will find the existance of gods and superntaural eventually through science but what will happen is our concept of god and supernatural will change. For example we know that gods exist but a god will become something like...I dunno a star. Impressive but no big deal.

Hey..where did everyone go.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Sorry dont get you.

Anyway this is what I think of atheism, bare in mind of course im open to changing my mind, im not asking you to refute what im saying but to understand.

This is what atheism is to me....its like looking at something and only seeing half of it. Ok lets say reality is a six sided dice. An athiest would only see three sides but the spritual person would see all six sides of the dice. But because you only sere three sides this affects your view of reality, its a limiting point of view. (best analogy I could think of off the top of my head)

I also think that the concept of atheism will evolve. I think we will find the existance of gods and superntaural eventually through science but what will happen is our concept of god and supernatural will change. For example we know that gods exist but a god will become something like...I dunno a star. Impressive but no big deal.

Well, a nice believe, just not really much to support it at the moment, is there?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, a nice believe, just not really much to support it at the moment, is there?

Universalism, designed to avoid conflict, .

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, a nice believe, just not really much to support it at the moment, is there?

Well heres why I belive it.

1. When I was muslim several people saw a Jinn go into my room. They described it as being a shadow in the form of a man. I dont belive Islam is THE truth.

2. Miracles happening to different sorts of religous people. I once prayed to Mary and a plant that had been dead for days came back to life.

3. Existance of chi and meditation. Yes im sure that just because I can see gods in themseles does not prove their existance for certain, but the thing is chi can be projected into other people. This is why those monks were able to dry those towels in the freezing cold.

When asked how they do it they said they visualise a flame. We cannot see the flame but we can see the affects of the flame ie drying the towels. If the heat generated by those guys was warm enough to dry towels in the freezing cold then it must be powerful enough to make other people feel it, therefore they could project the image of something and eventhough you may not be able to see what they are projecting you will feel the affects of it.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Universalism, designed to avoid conflict, .

It explains why different people with different religous beliefs all experience miracles that confirm their faith.

Also the concept of God is that he is infinite and therefore take an infinite number of forms therefore God can be Jehovah, Allah, Thor, Odin etc. It is illogical to think that God can only be Jehovah.

Strange beliefs, Alfhiem. Not bad, but strange.

I like the God Vivec.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Strange beliefs, Alfhiem. Not bad, but strange.

Well not really. If you see it from the point of view that reality is infinite then there are infinite number of possibilities and how can reality not be infinite? I cant explain it proprely but you cant get something from nothing, so that thing that created reality must have always existed. My head hurts.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox

I like the God Vivec.

Celtic or Germanic?

With out a word of a lie: Allah

Allah Akbar!