Are cartoons made for Children ?

Originally posted by inimalist
Violence: media violence has been tested thouroughly for years. Even the depictions of cartoon characters commiting outrageous and unrealistic acts of violence increases the aggression in children, and in controlled studies, exposure to this media is a strong indication of violence and aggression later in life.

[b]HOWEVER: Studies have also shown that these effects can be greatly reduced by media awareness programs. ALSO notice how my argument isn't "violent TV makes people into psycho killers" [/B]

The only real testing which has been properly done has been mediocre, e.g. the BoBo doll experiment, the children did copy what they saw the adults do on the screen. However, they did so as if it was a game, basically it was and doll not a human and this decreased the validity, even in the infant's eyes.

One study which has been argued to give results which enforce the view that violent television and films influences children was investigated by Parke. Two groups of delinquents were separated, each group stayed in a separate residence, one group were given violent films to watch, the other wasn't. It was found that there was an increase in violent behaviour from the group who watched the violent films. However, there a two gaping problems with this for a start the group were juvenile delinquents, not the general public. Secondly, each group were made up of friends, so, violent children may just be the ones who watch violent television and films. Meaning they are not actually influenced by the media but instead, have a liking for certain streams of it as it reflects their already prominent behaviour.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
The only real testing which has been properly done has been mediocre, e.g. the BoBo doll experiment, the children did copy what they saw the adults do on the screen. However, they did so as if it was a game, basically it was and doll not a human and this decreased the validity, even in the infant's eyes.

One study which has been argued to give results which enforce the view that violent television and films influences children was investigated by Parke. Two groups of delinquents were separated, each group stayed in a separate residence, one group were given violent films to watch, the other wasn't. It was found that there was an increase in violent behaviour from the group who watched the violent films. However, there a two gaping problems with this for a start the group were juvenile delinquents, not the general public. Secondly, each group were made up of friends, so, violent children may just be the ones who watch violent television and films. Meaning they are not actually influenced by the media but instead, have a liking for certain streams of it as it reflects their already prominent behaviour.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And we should certainly encourage violent behavior in already violent children.

Where was that even insinuated?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Where was that even insinuated?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Somewhere around your seeming attacks on the studies and the comment of "Meaning they are not actually influenced by the media but instead, have a liking for certain streams of it as it reflects their already prominent behaviour. "

Seeming attacks on the studies? They're called evaluative points.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Seeming attacks on the studies? They're called evaluative points.

Though changing what you refer to it as is merely a symantic argument. Doesn't change the nature of the beast.

Originally posted by Creshosk
"A rose by any other name..."

Though changing what you refer to it as is merely a symantic argument. Doesn't change the nature of the beast.

Read some psychology essays.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Read some psychology essays.

I also noticed that you dodged my implication that

"Meaning they are not actually influenced by the media but instead, have a liking for certain streams of it as it reflects their already prominent behaviour. "

seems like a justification to expose children to violent media which you already said:

"It was found that there was an increase in violent behaviour from the group who watched the violent films."

Oh and here is the "Evaluative points" as you'd like to call it:

"However, there a two gaping problems with this"

Edit: I'm going to throw in mocking you for being another online psychologist.

Yes, that's how you evaluate something. I highlighted the things wrong with the research, because the things right with it were blatantly obvious.
Have you ever heard of looking at things objectively? I'm not justifying or condemning anything.
It doesn't matter what my opinion is, the whole point of a psychology essay; is to try to find problems with findings. There are problems with those findings, which I expressed in my original post.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yes, that's how you evaluate something. I highlighted the things wrong with the research, because the things right with it were blatantly obvious.
Have you ever heard of looking at things objectively? I'm not justifying or condemning anything.
It doesn't matter what my opinion is, the whole point of a psychology essay; is to try to find problems with findings. There are problems with those findings, which I expressed in my original post.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Where was that even insinuated?

"Seeming attacks on the studies"

Do you follow now that I've highlighted things for you?

Well of course they were attacks on the studies, for the purpose of evaluation. Which, I've already said once. Does that highlight things for you? I'm not going to underline anything, as if having to post the same thing twice won't get it into your head; I don't know what will.

Originally posted by coolmovies
Ok i was a great fan of tom and jerry when i was young . I grew up watching them untill i thought i was too old to watch them. I grew up watching them and i belive they are the best cartoons ever made .

I just wanted to ask are cartoons made only for kids ?? The thing is they are made by adults so why cant adults watch them ? Is it embarassing if you watch cartoons becouse you are too old ?
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The older cartoons such as merrie melodies were made by very intellectual people with a twisted artistic talent and appeal. I think it is obvious that there are cartoons created for all types of demographics spanning from children to adults. Most ARE targeted towards children though.
Merrie Melodies is a very rare subject in the world of cartoons. The show was made for children with adults in mind, or so the great prodcers say. Most every character posesses a metophor that adults can relate to in life. The metophors werent by accident either.

As for it being ok to watch cartoons as an adult, personally i dont see a problem what so ever. cartoons are designed to entertain on the most basic level as well as strengthening your imagination. Most adults have absorbed the atmosphere that cartoons have to offer and moved on to a new stage by adulthood though. This is assuming we are speaking only about cartoons that are geared towards children, because there are a great deal of cartoons that contain adult oriented content. In the end, enjoy what you like, If you are lucky enough to not outgrow the feelings that cartoons offered you as a child....stick with em.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
The only real testing which has been properly done has been mediocre, e.g. the BoBo doll experiment, the children did copy what they saw the adults do on the screen. However, they did so as if it was a game, basically it was and doll not a human and this decreased the validity, even in the infant's eyes.

One study which has been argued to give results which enforce the view that violent television and films influences children was investigated by Parke. Two groups of delinquents were separated, each group stayed in a separate residence, one group were given violent films to watch, the other wasn't. It was found that there was an increase in violent behaviour from the group who watched the violent films. However, there a two gaping problems with this for a start the group were juvenile delinquents, not the general public. Secondly, each group were made up of friends, so, violent children may just be the ones who watch violent television and films. Meaning they are not actually influenced by the media but instead, have a liking for certain streams of it as it reflects their already prominent behaviour.

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righto, so if I post every single study showing evidence that media exposure can trigger aggression, you will tell me what is wrong with it?

well, here is one I made a post about a few months ago

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/450796_1-when-god-sanctions-killing-effect-of-scriptural-violence-on-aggression

Originally posted by inimalist
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righto, so if I post every single study showing evidence that media exposure can trigger aggression, you will tell me what is wrong with it?

well, here is one I made a post about a few months ago

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/450796_1-when-god-sanctions-killing-effect-of-scriptural-violence-on-aggression

I'm not having a go, mate. I'm just trying to get involved in the topic.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I'm not having a go, mate. I'm just trying to get involved in the topic.

I know, and I'm sorry, that was a little harsh...

I think that a really important thing to remember is that by saying that media is a cue for aggression, nobody is saying that media causes violence.

Sure, someone may puff out their chest, but I think we both know people who love violent media who are the most passive of individuals.

People who politicize these studies do them no credit. Many studies have shown great benefits of video games in social, cognitive and even perceptual psychology.

Originally posted by inimalist
I know, and I'm sorry, that was a little harsh...

I think that a really important thing to remember is that by saying that media is a cue for aggression, nobody is saying that media causes violence.

Sure, someone may puff out their chest, but I think we both know people who love violent media who are the most passive of individuals.

People who politicize these studies do them no credit. Many studies have shown great benefits of video games in social, cognitive and even perceptual psychology.

Yeah, I agree. A lot of it's just scare tactics based on very biased research, but then some hidden amongst it is rather valid. If I remember rightly, there is a piece of research on high school age males who watched sexually violent footage for a long period. Afterwards it was found that they trivialised the feelings of a rape victim, in a fake trial; more than they had previously.
I think that's the best piece of research I've heard of yet in this field.

But it is a field absolutely riddled with tabloid paper fist shaking, unfortunately.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well of course they were attacks on the studies,

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Seeming attacks on the studies?

Originally posted by Creshosk
"A rose by any other name..."

Though changing what you refer to it as is merely a symantic argument. Doesn't change the nature of the beast.

Heh...

The main reasion why there is violance in cartoons is so it can be funny

Drawn Together is pretty entertaining he he

Originally posted by Creshosk
Heh...

You're an idiot, look up the word evaluation. Fvcking cretin.