Are cartoons made for Children ?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
You're an idiot, look up the word evaluation. Fvcking cretin.

I was laughing because I got you to refer to what you were doing as something you objected to me refering to it as, moron. What was the point of "evaluating" the study if you're going to ignore the outcome? Regardless of anything else it encoruaged violence in the test group that was exposed to the violence. YOU even noted that they became more violent. Even if it was because of a pre disposition for it, there could still be other kids with a predisposition toward violence that by exposing them to the violent media would encourage it.

So do you have a point or a stance on the issue or were you just "evaluating" the studies to show off that big brain of yours and really have nothing of merit to add to the conversation other than being another online armchair psychologist?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
You're an idiot, look up the word evaluation. Fvcking cretin.

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Originally posted by grey fox
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Originally posted by inimalist
Violence: media violence has been tested thouroughly for years. Even the depictions of cartoon characters commiting outrageous and unrealistic acts of violence increases the aggression in children, and in controlled studies, exposure to this media is a strong indication of violence and aggression later in life.

Sex: While less studied, the problem would be probably less in the "sex" part, but more in the stuff associated with pornography. For instance, women are not always painted in the most respectful ways and other such items. Exposure to pornography, even in adults, has been shown to "prime" (make more accessable to the brain for action) mysoginy.

[b]HOWEVER: Studies have also shown that these effects can be greatly reduced by media awareness programs. ALSO notice how my argument isn't "violent TV makes people into psycho killers" [/B]

Are there studies how awareness coupled with exposion to violence on TV are compared to complete ingorance on the subject?

Originally posted by coolmovies
Ok i was a great fan of tom and jerry when i was young . I grew up watching them untill i thought i was too old to watch them. I grew up watching them and i belive they are the best cartoons ever made .

I just wanted to ask are cartoons made only for kids ?? The thing is they are made by adults so why cant adults watch them ? Is it embarassing if you watch cartoons becouse you are too old ?
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The problem with most of these studies is that there are to many variables to account for and not a proper way to setup a control.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Are there studies how awareness coupled with exposion to violence on TV are compared to complete ingorance on the subject?

I'm not overly familiar with the work, but I would think it would be testing for levels of aggression coupled with parental or other authority figures (or even just information) that indicates that what someone is seeing isn't real, that this is not how you deal with problems in everyday life.

A main problem with stuff like TV violence is that it primes certain responses to similar stimuli. So for instance, when you get nervous walking through a car park at night, its because you have seen the Sopranos (or other media where people have been attacked there [this is not to say there aren't just naturally creepy things about car parks]). Its the same phenomena, just now its some kid pushing your kid on the playground, and instead of being mature he socks the other kid in the face. Was that because he had seen similar things done in movies? No, absolutly not. Is the violent response more accessable as a choice for him after being exposed to the media, absolutly. What the "awareness" would do, is either inhibit the violent response as "inappropriate" or even better "awareness" would create new responses that would be more accessable.

I think a major problem with anti-violence awareness is that all the other choices to violence, especially for children, are telling adults, walking away, or doing other things that don't allow the child to keep their dignity and also back down. The situation I used can also be further complicated, since I, and I am sure others, would not be to disapointed in my child if he hit someone who instigated violence with him.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
The problem with most of these studies is that there are to many variables to account for and not a proper way to setup a control.

I agree to an extent. The problem is that the media and the way the studies are presented everywhere other than in journals has such a bias and an agenda to prove that media is horriblly damaging to children and society.

The conclusion of "rise in aggression" is almost useless when describing human behaviour. When I get mad, I like to paint or make music. Other people work out or do other very constructive things. "aggression" in many situations can be beneficial and is a very intrinsic part of an autonomus individual's personality.

*EDIT: I may have fell into the very same trap of understanding that I just critiscized the media for. Aggression is not anger, though I think my point can be valid if expressed as "I have ways of venting aggression that are at least non-destructive.

I agree that there are lots of variables in determining how people act and how media effects will be seen in society, but to measure a rise in aggression due to a direct cause, I think that is something we know fairly well.

Originally posted by inimalist
I agree to an extent. The problem is that the media and the way the studies are presented everywhere other than in journals has such a bias and an agenda to prove that media is horriblly damaging to children and society.

The conclusion of "rise in aggression" is almost useless when describing human behaviour. When I get mad, I like to paint or make music. Other people work out or do other very constructive things. "aggression" in many situations can be beneficial and is a very intrinsic part of an autonomus individual's personality.

*EDIT: I may have fell into the very same trap of understanding that I just critiscized the media for. Aggression is not anger, though I think my point can be valid if expressed as "I have ways of venting aggression that are at least non-destructive.

I agree that there are lots of variables in determining how people act and how media effects will be seen in society, but to measure a rise in aggression due to a direct cause, I think that is something we know fairly well.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I do agree with much of what you said and understand if you locked someone in a room with nothing but violence it would increases the aggression of the person. The problem that I see with it is how, like you said people deal with their aggression because we all have it. This would come down to social environment and parenting. I grew up playing sports and drawing, many teachers thought that I needed help because some of my art was very violent and this was long before computer games and mega violent movies but that is how I dealt with my aggression. In turn it helped me deal with many problems growing up, I used to have nightmares all the time and when I would wake up I would start to draw them and now after awhile of doing this I do not have them anymore. Well I have them but they do not scare me, I wake up and think that is a way cool monster and draw it. 😉

Wow, I had a remarkably similar experience growing up, though I either don't dream or can't remember dreams...

When I was in lower grades I can remember my parents being called in because I was drawing inappropriate and violent things on my callanders or whatever, which is apparenty a red flag for deliquency.

But I hear what you are saying 1000%. It wasn't that I was a violent person, I just needed somewhere to deal with unsavory thoughts. I think in a lot of ways art steered me away from more serious ways of expressing certain depressive and aggressive urges, and without getting really personal, I will say these include types of self harm.

I don't think anyone who really studies the behaviour of children would ever say that media is more influential than parental attachment or social pressure, and if they do they are out too lunch. Studies like these are akin to the studies that show uncomfortable heat produces a rise in aggression: While interesting and very useful, just completely inadequate in allocating the cause of any particular event.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
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We're all genius'.😄

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Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I do agree with much of what you said and understand if you locked someone in a room with nothing but violence it would increases the aggression of the person. The problem that I see with it is how, like you said people deal with their aggression because we all have it. This would come down to social environment and parenting. I grew up playing sports and drawing, many teachers thought that I needed help because some of my art was very violent and this was long before computer games and mega violent movies but that is how I dealt with my aggression. In turn it helped me deal with many problems growing up, I used to have nightmares all the time and when I would wake up I would start to draw them and now after awhile of doing this I do not have them anymore. Well I have them but they do not scare me, I wake up and think that is a way cool monster and draw it. 😉

+2 coolness for PITT HAPPENS

You actually sound pretty cool from most of your posts I have read. I would like to see some of those pictures. Not everyone has the ability to draw what they dream.

In elemtary school, I always thought it was weird how the teachers freaked out when myself or other's did stuff like that. This one time in first grade I brought a humongous knife for show and tell...you can probably guess what happened from there.

I still watch "cartoons". Anime, Naruto, Ben 10, Sponge Bob, etc. I love them. There are waaay too many things in cartoons, that are "meant" for children, that only an adult would get. Just watch a few episodes of SpongeBob and you will get the picture.

cartoons are made for everybody.for children who wants to entertain themselves and for adults who wants to reminisce the past...

Originally posted by coolmovies
Ok i was a great fan of tom and jerry when i was young . I grew up watching them untill i thought i was too old to watch them. I grew up watching them and i belive they are the best cartoons ever made .

I just wanted to ask are cartoons made only for kids ?? The thing is they are made by adults so why cant adults watch them ? Is it embarassing if you watch cartoons becouse you are too old ?
😮

I watch cartoon still, and I'd consider myself more adult than child.. My father loves watching Timon and Pumbaa, and a lot of other disney matter..

Sure, cartoon is made for children.. But everyone has a little child inside of themselves.. Even the oldest of people do..

of course adults can watch cartoons that are catered to kids, however I dont think there are enough cartoons that are REALLY geared towards kids, there is always a hint of adult humor ina majority of children cartoons that it makes you wonder if the children should actually watch this

Originally posted by dadudemon
+2 coolness for PITT HAPPENS

You actually sound pretty cool from most of your posts I have read. I would like to see some of those pictures. Not everyone has the ability to draw what they dream.

In elemtary school, I always thought it was weird how the teachers freaked out when myself or other's did stuff like that. This one time in first grade I brought a humongous knife for show and tell...you can probably guess what happened from there.

I still watch "cartoons". Anime, Naruto, Ben 10, Sponge Bob, etc. I love them. There are waaay too many things in cartoons, that are "meant" for children, that only an adult would get. Just watch a few episodes of SpongeBob and you will get the picture.

I still watch cartoons to this day and I will for the rest of my life, I find them enjoyable and one of my goals in life is to create my own full length animated movie. This is not geared for children but more for adults and in similar style of Heavy Metal.

speed racer.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Now I wonder what my teachers would have thought if I brought in my knives 😉

I still watch cartoons to this day and I will for the rest of my life, I find them enjoyable and one of my goals in life is to create my own full length animated movie. This is not geared for children but more for adults and in similar style of Heavy Metal.

They would have passed out. When they finally came to...they would have tasered you and put you in a straight jacket.

Nice collection bro. (Do you like Star Trek?)

If you need help with the movie, I lend my services. I would love to work on a project like that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
They would have passed out. When they finally came to...they would have tasered you and put you in a straight jacket.

Nice collection bro. (Do you like Star Trek?)

If you need help with the movie, I lend my services. I would love to work on a project like that.