Christianity Gone Tomorrow?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

On the question of ''Christianity gone tomorrow'' (independent of science or God), yes, it will be.

Probably not in USA (American identity is stronger than European, as are Christian identities in USA), but in Europe definitively. It will be replaced by Islam.

Why? Because Islamic identity is far stronger than post-Christian European one. ''European identity'' is all over the place anyway.
When faced between two choices, the stronger one always win.

Hence people who are in america, wherever they come from, have a strong sense of BEING American. Which is good. (dependeing how you view it, of course)

Slightly off topic, but assuming what you say is true (and I don't think it is) wouldn't it be better for Europe to embrace a strong atheism as Dawkins proposes it?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Slightly off topic, but assuming what you say is true (and I don't think it is) wouldn't it be better for Europe to embrace a strong atheism as Dawkins proposes it?

Why do you assume that atheism will bring a better Europe?

Didn't the Soviet Union limited religion?

Where are they now?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Why do you assume that atheism will bring a better Europe?

Didn't the Soviet Union limited religion?

Where are they now?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Why do you assume that atheism will bring a better Europe?

Didn't the Soviet Union limited religion?

Where are they now?

What an odd comparison for multiple reasons.

Either way that's not the point. When I said Europe I didn't mean the country, but the people that value our humanist ideals (Atheists as well as Christians).

Originally posted by Bardock42
What an odd comparison for multiple reasons.

Either way that's not the point. When I said Europe I didn't mean the country, but the people that value our humanist ideals (Atheists as well as Christians).

Same thing...when I said Soviet Union I meant the people who value humanist ideals (i.e. what is good for our society)

Fair comparison.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Same thing...when I said Soviet Union I meant the people who value humanist ideals (i.e. what is good for our society)

Fair comparison.

The Soviet Union was a communist based dictatorship...

A comparison, granted, not a fair one.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The Soviet Union was a communist based dictatorship...

A comparison, granted, not a fair one.

They were socialist too....like the French. 😉

well i dont know about indivduals mine and a lot of peopels views in Europse onto America see Americans as simple minded folk who are easily led which is why religion is hard pinned down and would probably never break, its like mice, get them to spin in a wheel enough times and theyll end up doing it as a routine

Europe however has a lot of foreign and imigration so Religion is splashed about a bit

Originally posted by Bardock42
Slightly off topic, but assuming what you say is true (and I don't think it is) wouldn't it be better for Europe to embrace a strong atheism as Dawkins proposes it?

Europe can embrace whatever, it makes no difference. There will always be people who will not embrace Atheism. (just like there will always be people who will never embrace religion)

People who seek religion will turn to Islam, rather than Atheism or weak post Christian influences and churches who constantly bicker who has the TRUEST path of God, attempting to convert masses who are not interested, by applying some weird political chiches that if Jesus was alive today, he would be probably gay Anglican bishop in a committed relationship, driving environmentally friendly car on his way to an interfaith dialog with a Wiccan and couple of Whabbi imams.

Well, if that doesn't convert me to a religion, I simply don't know what will.

People seeking religion will turn towards religion with stronger identity, better defined identity, and the one with most union. Which is Islam.

To think that everyone will embrace Atheism is short sighted. It will never happen. Just like not everyone will embrace religion.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Europe can embrace whatever, it makes no difference. There will always be people who will not embrace Atheism. (just like there will always be people who will never embrace religion)

People who seek religion will turn to Islam, rather than Atheism or weak post Christian influences and churches who constantly bicker who has the TRUEST path of God, attempting to convert masses who are not interested, by applying some weird political chiches that if Jesus was alive today, he would be probably gay Anglican bishop in a committed relationship, driving environmentally friendly car on his way to an interfaith dialog with a Wiccan and couple of Whabbi imams.

Well, if that doesn't convert me to a religion, I simply don't know what will.

People seeking religion will turn towards religion with stronger identity, better defined identity, and the one with most union. Which is Islam.

To think that everyone will embrace Atheism is short sighted. It will never happen. Just like not everyone will embrace religion.

Seems unlikely really. I think atheism is a much stronger converting force for Christianity today than Islam. In the western world that is.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
OK, lets just say that science proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Christian god doesn’t exist, so what would happen to modern society? There are about 2 billion Christians in the world and has considerable world influence on every day life, would there be strife or violence, what are your thoughts?

No I don’t want to hear “It will never happen”, for the sake of the thread I’m purposing that it does. I know even with positive proof that many believers will still believe but in my personal opinion many would question or become Agnostic to a degree.

God cannot deny Himself so...it will never happen.

God can't do shit, he isn't real.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God cannot deny Himself so...it will never happen.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God cannot deny Himself so...it will never happen.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Your God is so limited.

Yes, I agree, so limited.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God cannot deny Himself so...it will never happen.

It won't happen, keep on wet dreaming

Originally posted by Kevy2007
It won't happen, keep on wet dreaming

One day Christianity will fade just like Greek mythology has faded, but it will be replaced by something else.

Well maybe you should get out of the basement and live a life

Originally posted by Kevy2007
Well maybe you should get out of the basement and live a life

What do you mean? 😕

I mean that as a Catholic myself I don't give a shite about your anti-religion remarks and you should find something better to do in life.