Originally posted by chithappensYou know what? I'd like to see some proof for this claim that pigs can't be poisoned.
Pigs cant be poisoned because they are that damn nasty. If a snake bites a pig, the snake gets poisoned LOL.That's wild
And no wiki garage either. Wikipedia may be good for certain concepts when it comes to facts it can easily be tainted by biased people such as yourself.
So lets make with the proof of some of these anti-pork claims of yours.
Originally posted by chithappens[cough]bullsh*t[/cough]
Pigs cant be poisoned because they are that damn nasty. If a snake bites a pig, the snake gets poisoned LOL.That's wild
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Pot-Bellied-Pigs-3478/Pot-belly-pigs.htm
Originally posted by chithappensBecause you made the dumb claim that pigs are immune to snake bites and this is only one link stating that they are not. How can you not see that?
How did that link even relate? That added nothing to this
"#2. I have heard that pigs are immune to poisonous snakes (rattlers) and would even kill them if they came in contact. I was wondering if it was true of potbelly pigs???
---Pigs are remarkable creatures. Technically, they are not immune to snake poison, but the sheer size of a farm hog or wild boar means the venom from the bite is spread over a larger body. A rattle snake bite can kill a 150 lb human or a 150 lb (or smaller) pig. The same amount of venom may not be fatal to a 1500 lb pig, because the venom is spread over a larger body mass, but the pig will probably be quite ill."
"#2. I have heard that pigs are immune to poisonous snakes (rattlers) and would even kill them if they came in contact. I was wondering if it was true of potbelly pigs???
---Pigs are remarkable creatures. Technically, they are not immune to snake poison, but the sheer size of a farm hog or wild boar means the venom from the bite is spread over a larger body. A rattle snake bite can kill a 150 lb human or a 150 lb (or smaller) pig. The same amount of venom may not be fatal to a 1500 lb pig, because the venom is spread over a larger body mass, but the pig will probably be quite ill.
---Non-venomous snakes also pose dangers to pot-bellied pigs, a snake (or any other bite) is prone to infection."
This is from the link. He said "technically" LOL. Why even say that? He's an expert but he felt it was not neccesary to go into detail LOL
Originally posted by chithappensBecause they are not. Larger pigs can survive amounts of venom far greater than smaller pigs. That's the technicallity of it. Smaller pigs can be taken out with amounts of poison that will not take oout larger pigs.
"#2. I have heard that pigs are immune to poisonous snakes (rattlers) and would even kill them if they came in contact. I was wondering if it was true of potbelly pigs???---Pigs are remarkable creatures. Technically, they are not immune to snake poison, but the sheer size of a farm hog or wild boar means the venom from the bite is spread over a larger body. A rattle snake bite can kill a 150 lb human or a 150 lb (or smaller) pig. The same amount of venom may not be fatal to a 1500 lb pig, because the venom is spread over a larger body mass, but the pig will probably be quite ill.
---Non-venomous snakes also pose dangers to pot-bellied pigs, a snake (or any other bite) is prone to infection."
This is from the link. He said "technically" LOL. Why even say that? He's an expert but he felt it was not neccesary to go into detail LOL
It does however show that pigs can be poisoned. Your claims are technically pigshit.
Originally posted by chithappensOK mister brain trust, please show us where it says pigs are immune to snake venom. Also keep in mind that my wife had a pig when she was going up and is graduating from CSU Vet Med program and I can easily verify any claim.
"#2. I have heard that pigs are immune to poisonous snakes (rattlers) and would even kill them if they came in contact. I was wondering if it was true of potbelly pigs???---Pigs are remarkable creatures. Technically, they are not immune to snake poison, but the sheer size of a farm hog or wild boar means the venom from the bite is spread over a larger body. A rattle snake bite can kill a 150 lb human or a 150 lb (or smaller) pig. The same amount of venom may not be fatal to a 1500 lb pig, because the venom is spread over a larger body mass, but the pig will probably be quite ill.
---Non-venomous snakes also pose dangers to pot-bellied pigs, a snake (or any other bite) is prone to infection."
This is from the link. He said "technically" LOL. Why even say that? He's an expert but he felt it was not neccesary to go into detail LOL
Originally posted by chithappensYour sources are full of shit. They write fictional books too, and some of the older non-fiction books are full of crap as we discover new things that prove the older things false. That's like saying that something is safer because it is "all natural" Arsenic is "all natural" too ain't it?
My sources are from books and I don't have a link.
Originally posted by chithappensI wouldn't expect you to waste your time writing out more lies when the ones that you've already told are shown to be lies or inconsequential.
I don't feel like typing it. I've done it before but I'm not about to do that when it "technically" it is right there LOL
Originally posted by chithappensBullshit.
The size is not the techinalicity
Originally posted by chithappensYou're right it says kill
- being posioned is being posisoned regardless of size. It does not say fatal.
"A rattle snake bite can kill a 150 lb human or a 150 lb (or smaller) pig.
The same amount of venom may not be fatal to a 1500 lb pig, because the venom is spread over a larger body mass, but the pig will probably be quite ill."
Miss that part did we? did you know that people have survived rattlesnake venom? I guess according to your logic those people can't be poisoned either? And that makes them nasty individuals?
Just another post by a pig owner.
"My friend's pig was bitten by a diamond back rattler right between the eyes. It almost died, but survived after daily treatments. The pics I have are AMAZING.....the pig started losing its entire hide, starting from the head back.
They are VERY graphic, and the only pics we have ever seen of such a phenonoma. The thick, leathery dead hide peeled back, gradually leaving a bloody mess...all the way to the tail, where is fell off!
Because it was a potbellied pig , the vets say the layer of fat saved his life.
His hide never came back "right" he looked like a burn victim.
But he DID live through it."
Originally posted by chithappensYes, any wound can become infected. The same applies to humans. What does that have to do with proving that pigs are immune to being poisoned?
He mentions infection. It is not the poison
ESPECIALLY when the infection thing was tied to non-venomous snakes?
Looks like you're dodging around the issue because you want desperatly to hold on to the outdated idea that pigs are nasty creatures when they aren't really that different from any other creature. They can become infected from wounds, can be poisoned. They can bleed if injured and the skin broken. They are not inherently nasty creatures any more so than any other creature, INCLUDING humans. Hell, little babies will sit in their own feces and play in the mud happily. Since babies are a more natural state of being before learning what things are wrong and what are right I guess that means that Humans are inherently nasty too right?
Originally posted by chithappens
I did not say pigs can't die. Once their hide is exposed then they are vulnerable just like any other creature (although more so). It is not the poison that gets them like that.
If it wasn't the diaomnd back venom that caused this:
"Just another post by a pig owner.
"My friend's pig was bitten by a diamond back rattler right between the eyes. It almost died, but survived after daily treatments. The pics I have are AMAZING.....the pig started losing its entire hide, starting from the head back.
They are VERY graphic, and the only pics we have ever seen of such a phenonoma. The thick, leathery dead hide peeled back, gradually leaving a bloody mess...all the way to the tail, where is fell off!
Because it was a potbellied pig , the vets say the layer of fat saved his life.
His hide never came back "right" he looked like a burn victim.
But he DID live through it."
http://www.thepigsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152"
You'd have us believe that it was coincidence that its hide started having problems after the bite and that its because its a nasty animal that caused its health problems?
So tell me einstien, howcome all pigs don't do the same exact thing?
Face it, no matter how hard you may try your claim of pigs being immune to poison has been thourghly debunked.
So your irrational hatred of pork prodcuts and the pigs themselves is just that irrational. Which means that it is just as rational as racism... in that its not.
Originally posted by chithappensIts perfectly reasonable. Its your own bias that's causing you to call that link baised.
The same way you are saying my info is bias, so is that. The previous link even mentions pigs eating snakes but says nothing about them dying after eating a poisonous snake. What he said did not even make logical sense if a pig could really be poisoned by a bite.
The question did not ask about injesting the venom of a rattle snake.
It specifically says that the amount of rattle snake venom that can kill a 150 pound man can kill a 150 pound pig.
You're still desperatly trying to hang on to your prejudiced beliefs.
Originally posted by chithappens
Same as with global warming, there are different sources for this stuff. How anyone can know anything about the insides of a pig and think otherwise is funny to me but ok.I'm not attacking you. Please refrain from doing such to me.
Look into what is inside a pig.
Blood, organs, bone, muscle and other tissues?