Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'll never understand why people like Cyclops.
Probably because he's one notch below Steve in leadership, maybe the fact that no matter how many people Wolverine beats, Scott will still make him his ***** every fight. Could be the fact that he took a power that some may seem as one dimensional and turned it into a versatile power for himself. Could be the fact that despite his tormented upbringing he still became a hero with good and straight morals.
Originally posted by Cyner
His durability is near regular human yet he's still a complete badass and leads x-menz. Then he is also all about some justice. I'm surprised you don't like him yourself.Edit: Also Cyclops + Jean Grey > Apocalypse
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah. I've heard that Cyclops is getting to be a dickhead lately.But I generally dislike all the X-Men.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
One of my favorite Marvel villains is Whirlwind. He hasn't done a lot, but his powers are cool, and his redone costume in MUA2 is amazing.I like him for those two reasons and those two reasons only.
If you like Whirlwind then you'd love Red Tornado from DC. Honestly you may like Scott if you heard his origin/upbringing and all the things he had to deal with.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Cyclops was:Orphaned as a child, and when his powers manifested early, saved the life of him and his brother as they fell toward the earth. unfortunately, Scott suffered brain damage which would remove any ability he had to control his power. Not knowing where his brother was, Scott was alone, and in a coma for a substantial period.
He was raised in an orphanage by Mister Sinister, who would constantly take on the appearence of several people in the house, including a young boy who bullied scott non stop. he even masqueraded as people scott had befriended, making it seem like they were turning on him. He engaged in massive emotional abuse in an attempt to break Scott to his will, but was unsuccessful.
Then when Scott finally escaped, he was taken under the wing of Jack O'Diamonds, a criminal that tried to use Scott as part of his gang.
Scott was then discovered by Professor Xavier, and became the first official X-Man. He still, however, had to live with the fact that the slightest slip of his control could kill the people he loved. This meant that he tended to come across as being very uptight, when he was simply trying to make sure that nobody was hurt by his powers. He met Jean Grey, fell in love, and then lost her during a shuttle accident.
She eventually returned, and the two rekindled their relationship. Unfortunately, the Dark Phoenix soon manifested, and yet again, Scott was forced to deal with the fact that he'd lost Jean when she died on the moon. This was after a long battle with the Imperial Guard, in which Cyclops and Jean were the last two standing. Having lost her yet again, Scott is utterly shattered.
Broken hearted and devoid of any desire to continue, Scott left and went home to Alaska. There he met Madelyne Pryor. Still hurting over the loss of Jean, Scott soon fell for Madelyne, given her uncanny (sorry) likeness to Jean Grey. All was well, and they had a son, until Scott was forced to leave the X-Men (at the time, Madelyne was psychically influencing him). Settling down for a new life with his wife and son, Scott was relatively happy, though admittedly missed his days as an X-Man.
Then, one day, he gets a phone call from Warren, telling him to come to New York (iirc). Madelyne tells him that if he leaves, he can never come home. He leaves anyways, not believing that he can't come back to his wife and son. There, he meets a resurrected Jean. He doesn't tell her about Madelyne at first, and has a hard time leading the newly formed X-Factor. When he eventually tries to find them, he discovers that they've disappeared. Setting off with Jean, Scott desperately tries to find his wife and son, only to be unsuccessful.
When he does in fact meet her again, she is revealed to be the Goblin Queen, a clone of Jean engineered by Sinister to secude Scott and have his child. Yet again, Sinister intrudes in Scott's life. The revelation of her origins drove Madelyne insane, and while she had earlier been having an affair with Alex (Scott's brother), she now convinced him to be her Goblin prince. Madelyne tried to kill both their son and Jean Grey, but was unsuccessful, and Scott rescued his son.
Scott and Jean (who had absorbed Madelyne's essence and therefore came to love the Nathan) and their son began to live something of a normal life, until Apocalypse came and infected Nathan with the TO virus, something without cure. Having no other option, the couple gave their son to the Askani, who would take Nathan 2000 years in to the future to help him with his sickness.
Cable was introduced soon after, and was eventually revealed as being the son of Scott and Madelyne. This was a bittersweet reunion, as Scott had lost the chance to raise his son.
Eventually, Scott and Jean married, and began what should have been the rest of their lives together. Shit happens, though. They end up dealing with Stryfe (the evil clone of Cable, their son), being transported to the future to help raise Nathan for a short period), and dealing with the likes of Mister Sinister, whom Scott had previously blasted in to a million pieces at the end of the Madelyne affair. They stuck through it, though, and seemed to be happy.
Then Apocalypse came along. Trying to harness the power of the twelve, Apocalypse tries to enter the body of Nate Grey, only for Cyclops to get in the way. Scott is believed killed, and only later surfaces, with Apocalypse's consciousness in his head to boot. Over the course of months, they fight for control of the one body, and eventually, Jean and Cable arrive to expel Apocalypse from Scott's body.
This leaves Scott a changed man. Most of what he had believed or thought about the world and his life had been shattered by Apocalypse, and this in turn made him see the world in a different light. He and Jean began to grow apart, and eventually, he went to Emma for help. Taking advantage of his vulnerability, she began a psychic affair with him, one that he soon began to go along with willingly. (Unknown to him, Jean had already kissed Logan twice at this point). Jean found out, and proceeded to mind-rape Emma. Scott was forced to make a choice about who he wanted, and this was complicated more by the fact that Emma had genuinely fallen in love with him.
Scott never got to make known his decision, as Jean was killed by Xorneto in New York. Initially quitting and leaving the X-Men (and Emma), Scott is mentally influenced by Jean in to staying, as he was integral to the future of the X-Men (without Scott around, Beast became possessed by an evil intelligence known as Sublime, who ruined the world itself). Staying at the institue, Scott and Emma became co-headmasters, while Scott retained commaned of the X-Men.
We fast forward a bit to meet Gabriel Summers, who would be known as Vulcan. It turned out that long ago, during a mission, all of the x-men bar Cyclops had been captured by the sentient island of Krakoa. Returning to the X-Mansion, Scott is introduced to the man who would be his brother, as Xavier had created a new X-Men team, led by Vulcan. Using psychic techniques, he gave them all several months training in the space of days, and they set off (without Cyclops) to Krakoa. They were all (seemingly killed). It was then that Xavier brought in the now well known second team of Wolverine, Colossus, Storm etc. Led by Cyclops, they successfully rescued the other X-Men.
In the present, Vulcan was back, and he was pissed. Taking on the X-Men successfully at first, Vulcan is soon beaten just long enough for him to realise that his anger should be directed at the people who had caused the death of his parents, the Shiar. Scott finds out that Xavier had wiped every piece of info about Gabriel from his mind, effectively altering his memories. Realising that the man he had seen as his father all these years had betrayed him, Scott tells Charles that he's no longer welcome at the institute.
Phew.
So basically, Scott has:
Lost his parents at a young age.
Spent his orphaned youth being emotionally tortured by Mister Sinister.
Lost Jean (the love of his life) three times.
He's lost Madelyne.
He gave up his son.
He's been mentally influenced by both Jean and Xavier, the two people in the world that he trusts more than most.Add this to the fact that he has spent his life in fear of his powers ever getting out of control, and people wonder why he's so uptight.
A few notes. Cyclops is a harsh team leader because he takes full responsibility for whatever happens to his teammates. If they die, it's his fault. The fact that you're on his team in the first place means that he thinks you're good enough.
Wolverine has the utmost respect for Scott, even once stating that he'd follow Scott to hell and back if Scott asked him to. He's been trusted by Xavier, Jean, Emma, and many others, to make the tough calls when it came to the X-Men. The only time he has ever really been challenged for leadership was when he was being affected by Madelyne's psychic powers.
As far as his powers go, they're not just lasers shooting where he looks. He actually has an insane sense of geometry, which enables him to shoot people round corners and such. Also, his beams can and have been dodged, which means against any skilled oppoonent, Cyclops hitting them is due to his knowledge of trajectory as much as it is to his opening his eyes.
In fights? Scott has taken down almost every member of the past and present X-Men rosters (including Wolverine). It's actually quite funny in the sense that no matter who Wolverine fights in comics, be it Hulk, Hercules, Thor or whatever, he rarely does well against Cyclops.
Also, people who would beat Wolverine? Colossus (skin too tough), Iceman (almost unkillable), Jean, Storm, Psylocke, etc etc.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If you like Whirlwind then you'd love Red Tornado from DC. Honestly you may like Scott if you heard his origin/upbringing and all the things he had to deal with.
I know of Red Tornado, and I am not a fan. I can never like Cyclops.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Gambit > you
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Not even in his wettest dreams.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That's a pretty fantastic picture, Shin.
Hm.... speaking of pictures.....
I want to see some pictures of some of you other guys. I'm most curious to see Ms. Marvel, MooCow (I forgot what you looked like 😛 ), The Scenario and even BT.
Oh, and if you fake, I will make fun of your lack of self esteem. 👆