I use metric, being a fan of Godzilla, I have to be familiar with it.
Seen this doc from last year Paste?
YouTube video
I use metric, being a fan of Godzilla, I have to be familiar with it.
Seen this doc from last year Paste?
YouTube video
Originally posted by CosmicCometDid not see it.
I use metric, being a fan of Godzilla, I have to be familiar with it.Seen this doc from last year Paste?
YouTube video
Tyranosaur > Spinosaur. uhuh **** JP3.
Originally posted by CosmicCometNeh. Wherever Tyrannosaurs popped up they became the alpha predator, and other larger predators tended to die out, like Allosaurs, ect. Also, IIRC Sue was as big as a Spinosaur, which was mostly longer and not as powerfully built as a Tyrannosaur. Tyrannosaur would more than likely win, imho, /especially/ if it got the first bite in as seen in the movie. Would crush the Spino's neck. >|
We have no idea how the fight would go. But a Spinosaurus could beat a T.Rex, and vice versa of course. It already had to deal with predators just as large. (The carcharodontosaurus that its shown pimp slapping)
She may be thinking of Baryonyx which looked very similar to a Spinosaur.
But yeah, a spinosaur was not built as powerfully as a rex, and carcharodonts were an inferior model to Tyrannosaurs, as seen by one dying out or migrating when the other popped up. >.>
"Although Spinosaurus is well-known to dinosaur enthusiasts due to its size, sail, and elongated skull, it is mostly known from remains that have been destroyed, aside from a few more recently discovered teeth and skull elements. Additionally, so far only the skull and backbone have been described in detail, and limb bones have not been found. Jaw and skull material published in 2005 show that it had one of the longest skulls of any carnivorous dinosaur, estimated at about 1.75 meters long (5.75 ft). The skull had a narrow snout filled with straight conical teeth that lacked serrations."
So far, there's little evidence it could kill a rex, and I doubt that conical teeth point to hunting large prey. Theropods who hunted large prey had serations, like the Rex and carcharodonts.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Neh. Wherever Tyrannosaurs popped up they became the alpha predator, and other larger predators tended to die out, like Allosaurs, ect. Also, IIRC Sue was as big as a Spinosaur, which was mostly longer and not as powerfully built as a Tyrannosaur. Tyrannosaur would more than likely win, imho, /especially/ if it got the first bite in as seen in the movie. Would crush the Spino's neck. >|
Sue is 7 tons at best. Spinosaurus by logic of scaling from smaller relatives would weigh 16 tons. I have an expert quote on this as well.
T.Rex was also on a completely different continent so its evolution is irrelevant to the discussion, besides being evolved for its own conditions doesn't mean success in a hypothetical fight. Spinosaurus lasted 12.5 million years itself, a very successful organism.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
She may be thinking of Baryonyx which looked very similar to a Spinosaur.But yeah, a spinosaur was not built as powerfully as a rex, and carcharodonts were an inferior model to Tyrannosaurs, as seen by one dying out or migrating when the other popped up. >.>
You are oversimplyfing it and that's not how it happened. 'Popped up'. Lol. Carcharodonts fed on larger prey than T.Rex did. Them fading out had nothing to do with tyrannosaurs evolving.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
"Although Spinosaurus is well-known to dinosaur enthusiasts due to its size, sail, and elongated skull, it is mostly known from remains that have been destroyed, aside from a few more recently discovered teeth and skull elements. Additionally, so far only the skull and backbone have been described in detail, and limb bones have not been found. Jaw and skull material published in 2005 show that it had one of the longest skulls of any carnivorous dinosaur, estimated at about 1.75 meters long (5.75 ft). The skull had a narrow snout filled with straight conical teeth that lacked serrations."So far, there's little evidence it could kill a rex, and I doubt that conical teeth point to hunting large prey. Theropods who hunted large prey had serations, like the Rex and carcharodonts.
Jaime A. Headden's (one of many experts on DML) take on Spinosaurus vs its competition:
<Questionable. GSP wrote that Spinosaurus, despite its large size, would have
been vulnerable to attack by the large allosaurids that shared its African
environment.>Lions are vulnerable to hyenas and leopards, but remain key predators.
Spinosaurids are claimed to be vulnerable to carchs, but 1) *Spinosaurus*
probably massed more than *Carcharodontosaurus,* which would have been slender,
narrow and gracile, as in other allosauroids, whereas the
"megalosaur/spinosaur" groups are distinctly robust and broad, and the ribcage
in the Egyptian "fisheater" was extremely broad. 2) There is no such thing as a
HUGE exclusive piscivore, and all large piscivores today (including whales,
sharks and gharials, relative to their ecologies) take non-piscine prey
frequyently enough to be considered opportunistic. 3) The snout of spinosaurs
also appears to lack many piscivore traits including a rounded cross-section,
but is mediolaterally narrow with deep roots, indicating a strong adaptation to
vertical compressive forces, such that spinosaurs likely had a VERY powerful
bite, as opposed to a weak bite in, say, *Allosaurus*. So, gives points 1, 2
and 3, it is more likely that the jaw and body variation cleanly separated
spinosaurs from carchs in both prey choices and ecology, and if anyhing, in a
fight, I'd bet on spinosaurs to come out kicking and winning.
http://dml.cmnh.org/2005Apr/msg00348.html
Lacking serrations is not any reliable indicator against large prey items, crocodiles lack serrations as well and they eat animals as big as they are (buffalo). Conical teeth ARE however great for big bites, being conical, they can withstand far more stress than flat bladed teeth in allosaurids and sharks, on top of having over 7 feet long arms tipped with 15 inch long claws, with a skull being surprisingly adapted for strength, there is no reason to believe it couldn't hunt big prey as well. It's tooth crowns were absolutely huge too, bigger than t.rex crowns.