Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? [/B]
God gave us free will and common sense, so why the **** would he intervene and solve our problems for us?
Damn Sony's conference kinda sucked. Except for Twisted Metal, and that Sorcery game for move.
Infamous 2 looked great. Killzone 3 looked great. Gran Turismo 5 was of course phenomenal, but we knew about all of them before hand.
Oh well, Sony should have saved up instead of revealing Killzone 3 and Infamous 2 etc a couple of weeks BEFORE E3.
On to the Tokyo Game Show this fall.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
God gave us free will and common sense, so why the **** would he intervene and solve our problems for us?
Why would he not care? It is a legitimate question. Not saying He should solve our problems, but there is a middle-plane that is not solving nor ignoring. Right now it seems like He is doing the latter.
And our problems via free will? How is it free will's fault that children are starving in states of poverty? How is it free will's fault that diseases has wiped out massive groups of people throughout human history.
Was it free will that lead to virtually genocide of the native americans?
You can twist it and say that it was the free will of the Spanish people, and the rest of the lot, that brought them to America and brought death to the inhabitants, but if such is the case, then truly God is malevolent for the native Americans never did anyone harm, and it was disease that took out most of them. It was not even the hands of the Spanish or whonow.
It was not free will that caused the Haiti disaster.
But anyway, I am all for religion. I encourage people to have faith. I admire those who believe in God. I am the last one to say you should not believe in him. All that I want said, all that this post wants put out there, is: Do not throw the "free will" shit around and say God gave it to us and as such we will pay for it.
Freedom comes at a price. Obviously we can not handle it. If it was given to us by God and we are now ignored by said entity, then he is undeniably malevolent.
I am not saying that he IS malevolent. I am just saying that according to your case, he would be.
Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]Why would he not care? It is a legitimate question. Not saying He should solve our problems, but there is a middle-plane that is not solving nor ignoring. Right now it seems like He is doing the latter.And our problems via free will? How is it free will's fault that children are starving in states of poverty? How is it free will's fault that diseases has wiped out massive groups of people throughout human history.
Was it free will that lead to virtually genocide of the native americans?
You can twist it and say that it was the free will of the Spanish people, and the rest of the lot, that brought them to America and brought death to the inhabitants, but if such is the case, then truly God is malevolent for the native Americans never did anyone harm, and it was disease that took out most of them. It was not even the hands of the Spanish or whonow.
It was not free will that caused the Haiti disaster.
But anyway, I am all for religion. I encourage people to have faith. I admire those who believe in God. I am the last one to say you should not believe in him. All that I want said, all that this post wants put out there, is: Do not throw the "free will" shit around and say God gave it to us and as such we will pay for it.
Freedom comes at a price. Obviously we can not handle it. If it was given to us by God and we are now ignored by said entity, then he is undeniably malevolent.
I am not saying that he IS malevolent. I am just saying that according to your case, he would be.
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First of all, you are using human concepts of evil and torment. God is not human, though to be fair, more then likely understands the pain that goes on in this world.
Second, without pain and suffering, how could we appreciate life and love? Yes, we have pain in the world, yes we have sadness and suffering, but because of it, when we are given a ray of hope and happiness, we can appreciate it.
You have to realize, if God is malevolent, he can put us through infinitely more amount of pain and suffering, and not let any love into this world. You may say God doesn't care, but if there is a God, and heaven is true, when we die, we supposedly move onto a better place (Dun't believe that Hell or sin shit)
Or God got tired of humans being retards, said "**** it", and decided to let the world burn.
On a different note and the source of my not unlikely temporary return. I know I am a little late to the party, but I have been busy. I know though that it is new enough for many to not have seen it: