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Originally posted by Burning thought
1. have i really been a fanboy, id like your friend to dig up where i was being fanboyish while debating other characters.

2. hes only shown blasts of energy, lightning creation..but no its not speculation, if its stated by developers thats>the game itself due to ovious reasons i hope i dont need to explain to you. So they took the nullifer from him (wow i thought heh had awareness), they could activate it before he could do anything to them? wow another thing he seems to lack in, reaction time to beat them.

3. so Absorbing planets beats anything, another lame destruction feet, considering kains energy manipulation he could literally destroy the world with thunderbolts if you lower his energy to that, he has infnite magic=thunder he could blast the world to pieces, taking into consideration the canon developers if he had full energy manipulation, he has so much potential in destruction if he "wanted" to. Power isnt just lame feets of destruction, for example through all pyrons power, he cannot harm kain.

2. What exactly did they say, and can you prove it?

3. I don't know the details dude, ask around the comics section, and you forget that Reed Richards is REALLY REALLY smart, much smarter than Kain.

4. I did not say it beats anything, it is a power indicator. Also, prove Kain can destroy anything as large as a city, and you just pretty much claimed Kain can destroy anything and everything if he wished, btw, Pyron has limitless energy as well, as he is made of it. Power does have to do with destruction, what you are talking about is Kain's gayness power to not die, Pyron can harm him, but can't kill him(Also, seriously, what would happen if his body was disintegrated?).

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Kay, I'll get to it then.

2. What exactly did they say, and can you prove it?

3. I don't know the details dude, ask around the comics section, and you forget that Reed Richards is REALLY REALLY smart, much smarter than Kain.

4. I did not say it beats anything, it is a power indicator. Also, prove Kain can destroy anything as large as a city, and you just pretty much claimed Kain can destroy anything and everything if he wished, btw, Pyron has limitless energy as well, as he is made of it. Power does have to do with destruction, what you are talking about is Kain's gayness power to not die, Pyron can harm him, but can't kill him(Also, seriously, what would happen if his body was disintegrated?).

1. gdgd this should be fun

2. http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=37412
http://www.thelostworlds.net/Defiance/index.html

the first one notes that the powers wikipedia states are true, as are the chrono ones, the connection is obvious kains emblems to the diffrent guardians, not to menstion, the second one states kains inability to die, as well as a lot of other things.

3. is he? based on?....

4. no hes made from energy, does not mean its limitless energy...also yes kain could destroy a city, make sense dude, through lightning alone he could destroy a city, do you realise whta lightning is? he could call down tonnes of it thats all....and yes he could destroy anything that can be destryoed by a certain amount of energy, if it is made of energy or filled with tonnes of it, then hes gonna have a good time isnt he.

5. you have to ask yourself what would happen if someone tried to disintigrate him, the fact is he cannot die..so in this instance either the disintigrating attack wouldnt do anything, OR he would reform, like he does if you lose your healthbar in the game he reforms out of the air with bats that come.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. gdgd this should be fun

2. http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=37412
http://www.thelostworlds.net/Defiance/index.html

the first one notes that the powers wikipedia states are true, as are the chrono ones, the connection is obvious kains emblems to the diffrent guardians, not to menstion, the second one states kains inability to die, as well as a lot of other things.

3. is he? based on?....

4. no hes made from energy, does not mean its limitless energy...also yes kain could destroy a city, make sense dude, through lightning alone he could destroy a city, do you realise whta lightning is? he could call down tonnes of it thats all....and yes he could destroy anything that can be destryoed by a certain amount of energy, if it is made of energy or filled with tonnes of it, then hes gonna have a good time isnt he.

5. you have to ask yourself what would happen if someone tried to disintigrate him, the fact is he cannot die..so in this instance either the disintigrating attack wouldnt do anything, OR he would reform, like he does if you lose your healthbar in the game he reforms out of the air with bats that come.

2. How's about the fact that he is directly stated to be the smartest man on earth rivaled only br Dr. Doom and he is a leading world scientist, and the leader and brains behind the F4?

3. Yeah, it kinda does. He cannot run out of energy, as he is energy, and can use it to its fullest, I also think you don't realize what energy is, it is all the power in the universe, cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred/altered.

4. Using lightning Kain can't destroy a car! haermm

5. No, he would turn into bats and run away like a b*tch! 💃

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Nowhere did it state the powers wiki states are true, or maybe I missed it, and you have to remember wiki pages change over time. The second page didn't tell me shit, I even looked thru alot of it. However, apparently, Kain CAN be wounded, and when he is, he has to turn into bats to escape and heal. What a pussy. 😂 Also, apparently Kain is weak to water, why doesn't Pyron just tele to the ocean and bring a bucket of water back with him!? haermm

2. How's about the fact that he is directly stated to be the smartest man on earth rivaled only br Dr. Doom and he is a leading world scientist, and the leader and brains behind the F4?

3. Yeah, it kinda does. He cannot run out of energy, as he is energy, and can use it to its fullest, I also think you don't realize what energy is, it is all the power in the universe, cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred/altered.

4. Using lightning Kain can't destroy a car! haermm

5. No, he would turn into bats and run away like a b*tch! 💃

1. wiki pages change, but why would anyone lie on it, sure anyone can change it, but as its been debated, games developers have been known to make sure the information on wiki is correct, also it directly states in the first one that the powers of the dimension guardian is correct, so its likely the rest is also correct. Also Kain is only wounded in-game, furthermore, kain is only truly damaged by Raziel who is the guy who can damage kain, and so what? bats, then he will just reform good as new..he cant die by anything other than the sword. Also yeh, water...it would take 10,000 years to kill kain with water...also its unlikely due to the rules kain cannot die by this anyway, but yes 10,000 years, Pyron doesnt have 2 seconds.

2. that means nothing....absolutly, Kain is many thousands of years old, he has had experiance as a noblemen, battle general and over the millenia has recorded every possible action through time he and raziel could do, across multiple time streams, no way is some mortal greater than kain, especially if hes got the mind emblem.

3. erm, yes i do know whta energy is, although cosmic energy which is pyrons makeup is a "fictional" substence and if he wants to tranfer his cosmic energy into heat and such then hes going to end up condensed into nothing, energy your right doesnt run out, but in its transfer, pyron will cease to excist if he tried to transfer all his energy into diffrent things.

4. cant destroy a car? wtf.....his blasts can shred a mans body into moltenised pieces and a lightnign bolt can reach a temperature hotter than the sun.....if kain keeps up a beam of lighting, hes going to be able to turn the earth into two halves...

5. yes and then reform instantly seconds later, thats if this was in gameplay ofc, otherwise it would do nothing

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. wiki pages change, but why would anyone lie on it, sure anyone can change it, but as its been debated, games developers have been known to make sure the information on wiki is correct, also it directly states in the first one that the powers of the dimension guardian is correct, so its likely the rest is also correct. Also Kain is only wounded in-game, furthermore, kain is only truly damaged by Raziel who is the guy who can damage kain, and so what? bats, then he will just reform good as new..he cant die by anything other than the sword. Also yeh, water...it would take 10,000 years to kill kain with water...also its unlikely due to the rules kain cannot die by this anyway, but yes 10,000 years, Pyron doesnt have 2 seconds.

2. that means nothing....absolutly, Kain is many thousands of years old, he has had experiance as a noblemen, battle general and over the millenia has recorded every possible action through time he and raziel could do, across multiple time streams, no way is some mortal greater than kain, especially if hes got the mind emblem.

3. erm, yes i do know whta energy is, although cosmic energy which is pyrons makeup is a "fictional" substence and if he wants to tranfer his cosmic energy into heat and such then hes going to end up condensed into nothing, energy your right doesnt run out, but in its transfer, pyron will cease to excist if he tried to transfer all his energy into diffrent things.

4. cant destroy a car? wtf.....his blasts can shred a mans body into moltenised pieces and a lightnign bolt can reach a temperature hotter than the sun.....if kain keeps up a beam of lighting, hes going to be able to turn the earth into two halves...

5. yes and then reform instantly seconds later, thats if this was in gameplay ofc, otherwise it would do nothing

2. I refuse to even acknowledge a post that even suggests Kain is smarter than Reed Richards. The F4 would kill your for that.

3. He already alters his energy to heat. 😐 Pyron has energy manipulation as well, and I doubt Kain has better manipulation over Pyron's energy than Pyron.

4. The rubber in the tires protect the car. 😛 Also, when has lightning ever reached hotter than the sun? And when has Kain used lightning this hot?

5. Developers>You.

I have to admit tho, this LOK sounds like an interesting series. I should play it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Because Wiki is bullshit, don't use it as a source. The developers directly state that Kain can be injured, and when injured, has to RUN AWAY to heal. Pwnt. Pyron can tele away in less than a second. 😄 Pyron could be a dick and destroy all the land on earth, making it nuthin but water, or go with my original plan and tele the whole planet to the sun.

2. I refuse to even acknowledge a post that even suggests Kain is smarter than Reed Richards. The F4 would kill your for that.

3. He already alters his energy to heat. 😐 Pyron has energy manipulation as well, and I doubt Kain has better manipulation over Pyron's energy than Pyron.

4. The rubber in the tires protect the car. 😛 Also, when has lightning ever reached hotter than the sun? And when has Kain used lightning this hot?

5. Developers>You.

I have to admit tho, this LOK sounds like an interesting series. I should play it.

1. wiki isnt all bullshit, it gets its information from somewhere, people dont just randomly take their time to make all random rubbish about it, and as i said, developers and people who are interested in the subject could change it back, or those realistic in it.. also Kain doesnt go batty when injured, his healing factor would allow him to instantly heal any damage caused by humans, its a gameplay element, otherwise why doesnt kain do it when hes injured by Raziel? he doesnt, it only happens in gameplay 😉 😛 and he can tele it to the sun, only to be pwned when the sun supernovas releasing a pissed off uber evolved kain even more easily able to destroy pyron who he knows did it to him in the first place

2. lmao

3. you can doubt all you like, boundless ftw, if he can manipulate forces like lightning, energy like pyron will be easy meat, boundless energy manipulation beats pyrons not to menstion kains manipulation energy from other sources, Pyron is manipulation his own energy most of the time.

4. wtf? when...all this in this point is BS m8, ALL lightning can go to that heat, and always has done, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning,http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning.htm two links ,one wiki and since you seem to hate it, ive got another one, the surface of the sun, lightning could rip through this earth in a blink..and kain controls it and none of this, can he make lightning that hot, theres nothing to suggest otherwise, you may as well drop it.

5. they do....and i agree with them, gameplay he bat forms...developrs also say he cannot be killed by anything other than reaver...means regardless of gameplay sillyness you try and bring up the fact still remains.

yes you should, then you may have some more insight into kain. Although you prob wont have my knowledge on it since i doubt you could get your hands on all the games and play them through, BO 1 is a biatch to get i found anyway

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. wiki isnt all bullshit, it gets its information from somewhere, people dont just randomly take their time to make all random rubbish about it, and as i said, developers and people who are interested in the subject could change it back, or those realistic in it.. also Kain doesnt go batty when injured, his healing factor would allow him to instantly heal any damage caused by humans, its a gameplay element, otherwise why doesnt kain do it when hes injured by Raziel? he doesnt, it only happens in gameplay 😉 😛 and he can tele it to the sun, only to be pwned when the sun supernovas releasing a pissed off uber evolved kain even more easily able to destroy pyron who he knows did it to him in the first place

2. lmao

3. you can doubt all you like, boundless ftw, if he can manipulate forces like lightning, energy like pyron will be easy meat, boundless energy manipulation beats pyrons not to menstion kains manipulation energy from other sources, Pyron is manipulation his own energy most of the time.

4. wtf? when...all this in this point is BS m8, ALL lightning can go to that heat, and always has done, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning,http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning.htm two links ,one wiki and since you seem to hate it, ive got another one, the surface of the sun, lightning could rip through this earth in a blink..and kain controls it and none of this, can he make lightning that hot, theres nothing to suggest otherwise, you may as well drop it.

5. they do....and i agree with them, gameplay he bat forms...developrs also say he cannot be killed by anything other than reaver...means regardless of gameplay sillyness you try and bring up the fact still remains.

yes you should, then you may have some more insight into kain. Although you prob wont have my knowledge on it since i doubt you could get your hands on all the games and play them through, BO 1 is a biatch to get i found anyway

2. "In SR1 vampires couldn't be killed by flesh deep attacks, how can Kain?"

"Kain is never actually killed. When he has sustained great physical damage, Kain takes the form of bats and escapes so he may rest and recover his health"

Developers>You.

Also, healing from damage caused by humans, and healing from damage caused by Pyron are two VERY different things.

Also, he does it when he sustains great physical damage, just so you know, like having half your body charred, sumthin Pyron is very capable of.

3. Vs. matches are not long term dude. But let's just say they are, how would Kain be evolving? He would be being CONSTANTLY incinerated only to not die, his body would be focusing on existing, not evolving. Also, the sun will supernova in about 6 billion years I believe, by that time Pyron will be at least 30,000 times more powerful, as that is 30,000 times as long as Pyron has been alive, and he would not be sitting around twiddling his cosmic balls during that time, he would be eating planet after planet.

4. I didn't find that funny at all man. Reed's intel greatly surpasses Kain's.

5. You do realize you just said lightning>Pyron right? 😬 Pyron absorbing energy is energy manilulation, it is not just his own energy. Pyron has greater control over his own body than Kain, he is not normal energy, he is LIVING energy. There is a difference.

6. It is a fact that cars are not effected by lightning cause of the rubber of the wheels, but I was joking. Also, Pyron makes mini suns.

7. Read above.

I will buy the games, I know how to find anything game related(hometown connections lol). It does seem to have an above average story at least from what I know, tho I doubt it will make me think Kain>Pyron.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Wiki is bullshit, fanboys all the time edit it to make their character stronger than they really are, trust me on that.

2. "In SR1 vampires couldn't be killed by flesh deep attacks, how can Kain?"

"Kain is never actually killed. When he has sustained great physical damage, Kain takes the form of bats and escapes so he may rest and recover his health"

Developers>You.

Also, healing from damage caused by humans, and healing from damage caused by Pyron are two VERY different things.

Also, he does it when he sustains great physical damage, just so you know, like having half your body charred, sumthin Pyron is very capable of.

3. Vs. matches are not long term dude. But let's just say they are, how would Kain be evolving? He would be being CONSTANTLY incinerated only to not die, his body would be focusing on existing, not evolving. Also, the sun will supernova in about 6 billion years I believe, by that time Pyron will be at least 30,000 times more powerful, as that is 30,000 times as long as Pyron has been alive, and he would not be sitting around twiddling his cosmic balls during that time, he would be eating planet after planet.

4. I didn't find that funny at all man. Reed's intel greatly surpasses Kain's.

5. You do realize you just said lightning>Pyron right? 😬 Pyron absorbing energy is energy manilulation, it is not just his own energy. Pyron has greater control over his own body than Kain, he is not normal energy, he is LIVING energy. There is a difference.

6. It is a fact that cars are not effected by lightning cause of the rubber of the wheels, but I was joking. Also, Pyron makes mini suns.

7. Read above.

I will buy the games, I know how to find anything game related(hometown connections lol). It does seem to have an above average story at least from what I know, tho I doubt it will make me think Kain>Pyron.

1. find me one piece of information like this and prove it wrong with another source please, ime not doubting 100% obviously it happens, but id like to see it

2. i read that, hes talking about gameplay, and if you played the games, youd know what hes talking about, obviously i cant prove something like this..well..i prob could but i cba right now...simply put, kain regenerated his chest almost instantly after it was slashed leaving only a scar where the hole had been and that was within something like, well very little time, as soon as hes gone through the portal, when hes the other side, hes regnerated his chest. Since Kain is never broken into pieces and this is the most grievus wound happening to him, everything else is simple gameplay. Pyron wouldnt be able to damage kain to much extent at all...if damage him at all

3. being constantly burn would simply eventually make his body evolve to be immune to such pressure and heat, meaning hell prob be released much sooner, also i still dont agree with pyron becoming anything beyond getting larger, he doesnt show it, so i dont believe he would have any greater ability in beating kain, kain however could gain even more diffretn abilities, not that his current ones wouldnt be enough with energy manip

4. lmao i find it funny 🤣

5. pff lightning is incredibly powerful none the less, its lucky for us that lightning forms within clouds and flash at incredibly speeds, if a bolt of lightning lasted for longer than a split second...wed all be dead. hotter than the surface of the sun..thats incredible. You still think kain couldnt destroy a city, and thats pretending he only has lightning to call upon.

6. yes pyron can destroy cities faster than kain if kain only used lightning, but kain "can" destroy worlds faster than pyron if he used the full force of the energy or lightning at his disposal. he would just have to beam it through the earth...pop

no i doubt even playing the games would make you belive that 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. find me one piece of information like this and prove it wrong with another source please, ime not doubting 100% obviously it happens, but id like to see it

2. i read that, hes talking about gameplay, and if you played the games, youd know what hes talking about, obviously i cant prove something like this..well..i prob could but i cba right now...simply put, kain regenerated his chest almost instantly after it was slashed leaving only a scar where the hole had been and that was within something like, well very little time, as soon as hes gone through the portal, when hes the other side, hes regnerated his chest. Since Kain is never broken into pieces and this is the most grievus wound happening to him, everything else is simple gameplay. Pyron wouldnt be able to damage kain to much extent at all...if damage him at all

3. being constantly burn would simply eventually make his body evolve to be immune to such pressure and heat, meaning hell prob be released much sooner, also i still dont agree with pyron becoming anything beyond getting larger, he doesnt show it, so i dont believe he would have any greater ability in beating kain, kain however could gain even more diffretn abilities, not that his current ones wouldnt be enough with energy manip

4. lmao i find it funny 🤣

5. pff lightning is incredibly powerful none the less, its lucky for us that lightning forms within clouds and flash at incredibly speeds, if a bolt of lightning lasted for longer than a split second...wed all be dead. hotter than the surface of the sun..thats incredible. You still think kain couldnt destroy a city, and thats pretending he only has lightning to call upon.

6. yes pyron can destroy cities faster than kain if kain only used lightning, but kain "can" destroy worlds faster than pyron if he used the full force of the energy or lightning at his disposal. he would just have to beam it through the earth...pop

no i doubt even playing the games would make you belive that 😉

2. Meh, fair enough, tho I hope you don't really believe Pyron cannot seriously damage Kain, he can take out a galaxy with a punch, and absorbs planets, Kain does not have the durability of a planet.

3. No, his body would be being INCINERATED, chances are if his physical form could even exist there, it would be a cell, since I doubt his regen is faster than the rate the sun would be incinerating him. Also, I know I cannot prove he gains new abilities, but his old ones get more powerful, and in 6 billion years they would be 30,000 times stronger, not to mention the knowledge he gains, as he apparently does take knowledge from planets before he eats them via cosmic awareness. He would be almost omniscient, if not fully. His powers would be second only to God, he would be able to create complex worlds or even more than that and could destroy galaxies at a whim. He would be 30,000 times faster and stronger as well, ultimate speedblitz ftw. His energy increases in that he can put more energy into things, and everything he does is powered by energy.

4. I don't, cause it's so not true.

5. I was joking again, if he can indeed make a bunch of lightning keep on coming down, yeah he could bust a city, but bust a planet I doubt. It would take miles of lightning to actually split the planet, and I don't think Kain could see far enough to summon that much.

6. Pyron can pinch a planet between his fingers. 😐 Also, if Kain is so ungodly powerful, why does he not just one shot the Elder God?

And you are probably right.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. You just asked me to search the entirity of wiki. Simply put, no.

2. Meh, fair enough, tho I hope you don't really believe Pyron cannot seriously damage Kain, he can take out a galaxy with a punch, and absorbs planets, Kain does not have the durability of a planet.

3. No, his body would be being INCINERATED, chances are if his physical form could even exist there, it would be a cell, since I doubt his regen is faster than the rate the sun would be incinerating him. Also, I know I cannot prove he gains new abilities, but his old ones get more powerful, and in 6 billion years they would be 30,000 times stronger, not to mention the knowledge he gains, as he apparently does take knowledge from planets before he eats them via cosmic awareness. He would be almost omniscient, if not fully. His powers would be second only to God, he would be able to create complex worlds or even more than that and could destroy galaxies at a whim. He would be 30,000 times faster and stronger as well, ultimate speedblitz ftw. His energy increases in that he can put more energy into things, and everything he does is powered by energy.

4. I don't, cause it's so not true.

5. I was joking again, if he can indeed make a bunch of lightning keep on coming down, yeah he could bust a city, but bust a planet I doubt. It would take miles of lightning to actually split the planet, and I don't think Kain could see far enough to summon that much.

6. Pyron can pinch a planet between his fingers. 😐 Also, if Kain is so ungodly powerful, why does he not just one shot the Elder God?

And you are probably right.

1. no i meant point out one bit of info you know to be untrue, if you cant then perhaps its one of those BS rumours and most info is actually correct on Wiki.

2. maybe hell simply burn him a bit, but kain wont be killed and would simply reform if it was capable of breaking his body, OR he wouldnt be to bad for it, eiither way, he will be fighting fit again.

3. he wouldnt be alive as a cell, that would basically be Death, a cell isnt alive by itself....he will be burnt, but not completly incinerated, that would be basically death. and all this about Pyron is hyperbole and i could say all this crap about kain being able to TK galaxies and rip realities and beat gods ass onto the floor and blah blah this in 6 millions of evolution, but its all hyperbole, at least we know kain Would gain new powers.

4. yes it is 😆 your basically comparing a smart human mind against a mind thats lived for tens of thousands of years calculating all sorts of confusing madness and crap.

5. depends where kain calls the lightnign from, if he calls it above the atmosphere, he could most likely set the atmpshere alight, causing a worldwide blast destoriyng the life of the planet in a near instant, then the crippled planet would probably fall apart. If kains got his reaver of mind and Dimension he could see the whole of the world easily, with dimension he can see into other dimensiosn a world isnt going to be difficult.

6. first PIS, there would be no game...second we dont know anything about the Elder God, we know he is the hub of wheel of excistence, he turns beings souls into life again after nourshing himself with their energy, then he brings them back to life with the soul. He is supposed ot be on a reality only kain/Raz seemingly could see, a spectoral realm, but he had some weird stuff going on with Elder God, the thing is weird...not to menstion its seeming Omniceient (not to kain tho, seems kain has resistnce to seemingly Omnicent beings) and its supposed to be in all time zones at once.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. no i meant point out one bit of info you know to be untrue, if you cant then perhaps its one of those BS rumours and most info is actually correct on Wiki.

2. maybe hell simply burn him a bit, but kain wont be killed and would simply reform if it was capable of breaking his body, OR he wouldnt be to bad for it, eiither way, he will be fighting fit again.

3. he wouldnt be alive as a cell, that would basically be Death, a cell isnt alive by itself....he will be burnt, but not completly incinerated, that would be basically death. and all this about Pyron is hyperbole and i could say all this crap about kain being able to TK galaxies and rip realities and beat gods ass onto the floor and blah blah this in 6 millions of evolution, but its all hyperbole, at least we know kain Would gain new powers.

4. yes it is 😆 your basically comparing a smart human mind against a mind thats lived for tens of thousands of years calculating all sorts of confusing madness and crap.

5. depends where kain calls the lightnign from, if he calls it above the atmosphere, he could most likely set the atmpshere alight, causing a worldwide blast destoriyng the life of the planet in a near instant, then the crippled planet would probably fall apart. If kains got his reaver of mind and Dimension he could see the whole of the world easily, with dimension he can see into other dimensiosn a world isnt going to be difficult.

6. first PIS, there would be no game...second we dont know anything about the Elder God, we know he is the hub of wheel of excistence, he turns beings souls into life again after nourshing himself with their energy, then he brings them back to life with the soul. He is supposed ot be on a reality only kain/Raz seemingly could see, a spectoral realm, but he had some weird stuff going on with Elder God, the thing is weird...not to menstion its seeming Omniceient (not to kain tho, seems kain has resistnce to seemingly Omnicent beings) and its supposed to be in all time zones at once.

2. He would be incinerated by a mini sun, but as you said, not die.

3. He would be more than burnt, I mean, COME ON! Being caught on fire makes you burnt, being in the sun incinerates you, and Kain doesn't exactly follow the laws of nature, considering he's already technically undead, immortal, and can't die.

4. It's not really hyperbole, it is an educated deduction(think that's what it is called). Pyron gets more energy from absorbing planets. Everything he does relies on his energy. That means all things he can currently do, would be made more powerful and impressive. Pyron is already very smart. Pyron studies planet's civilizations for knowledge. Pyron after 6 billion years would of had plenty of time to eat planets, massively increasing his energy output, and greatly increasing his already great intelligence. He would have the mind to do more creative things with his power, and could do more impressive things with it.

5. Reed Richards is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond smart. He is the greatest genius Earth has ever known! This is not even worth arguing, the answer is obvious.

6. You fail to mention that doing that would also leave Kain's ass floating in space. Also, how the hell is he gonna summon lightning from space?

7. Meh. Elder God is only omniscient about the LOK planet, which makes sense, as the LOKverse consists of a planet.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. I can't remember as I do not go on it for info on characters, I do it for fun. I COULD look a bunch of shit up, maybe later if I'm bored.

2. He would be incinerated by a mini sun, but as you said, not die.

3. He would be more than burnt, I mean, COME ON! Being caught on fire makes you burnt, being in the sun incinerates you, and Kain doesn't exactly follow the laws of nature, considering he's already technically undead, immortal, and can't die.

4. It's not really hyperbole, it is an educated deduction(think that's what it is called). Pyron gets more energy from absorbing planets. Everything he does relies on his energy. That means all things he can currently do, would be made more powerful and impressive. Pyron is already very smart. Pyron studies planet's civilizations for knowledge. Pyron after 6 billion years would of had plenty of time to eat planets, massively increasing his energy output, and greatly increasing his already great intelligence. He would have the mind to do more creative things with his power, and could do more impressive things with it.

5. Reed Richards is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond smart. He is the greatest genius Earth has ever known! This is not even worth arguing, the answer is obvious.

6. You fail to mention that doing that would also leave Kain's ass floating in space. Also, how the hell is he gonna summon lightning from space?

7. Meh. Elder God is only omniscient about the LOK planet, which makes sense, as the LOKverse consists of a planet.

2. incinerated, then reform

3. he would be constantly having to reform, yet even in this state cells evolve, beings in real life evolution on earth are supposed to have evolved from cells, microbes, to suit their environment, regardless of what anything does to kain, he can always evolve.

4. in 6 billion years Kain could be God itself, hell hes only been alive 10,000 so far, and hes got all these powers, give him 6 billion, jeez god knoes what hed be capable of.

5.

6. *shrug* he would have to dimenstion move to another area then wouldnt he, back to LOKverse in his dimension. Earth is not lokverse. And when kain casts lightning its through magic, so hell he could use all sorts of properties with lightning, he doesnt call it from clouds, he can also shoot it from the reaver.

7. we could say the same about all beings, Belial is only omniceiant about makai, TOAA is only omnicient about Marvel universe...

its one of those Elder God things we dont know, his very excistence is unkown, we know he seems to know everything about the history of said planet, apart from Kain who seems to be unseeable.

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. incinerated, then reform

3. he would be constantly having to reform, yet even in this state cells evolve, beings in real life evolution on earth are supposed to have evolved from cells, microbes, to suit their environment, regardless of what anything does to kain, he can always evolve.

4. in 6 billion years Kain could be God itself, hell hes only been alive 10,000 so far, and hes got all these powers, give him 6 billion, jeez god knoes what hed be capable of.

5.

6. *shrug* he would have to dimenstion move to another area then wouldnt he, back to LOKverse in his dimension. Earth is not lokverse. And when kain casts lightning its through magic, so hell he could use all sorts of properties with lightning, he doesnt call it from clouds, he can also shoot it from the reaver.

7. we could say the same about all beings, Belial is only omniceiant about makai, TOAA is only omnicient about Marvel universe...

its one of those Elder God things we dont know, his very excistence is unkown, we know he seems to know everything about the history of said planet, apart from Kain who seems to be unseeable.

2. I think that one cell would be more focused on regenerating itself than evolving. No single cell organism has evolved in conditions that harsh.

3. No. ❌ Pyron would be closer to God than Kain, he already is as you say, a "Big God" lol, by then he could at least create entire worlds and civilizations to serve him and would rule the universe. Really, I see no reason Pyron could not absorb Kain while he's in the sun.

4. Still, I doubt he could shoot it from space, I mean, that is pure speculation.

5. Belial can look into the future of any entity. TOOA could as well. Elder God, idk.

Dude....saying Kain could eventually become God itself is somewhat...well you probably know what I was going to say.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Dude....saying Kain could eventually become God itself is somewhat...well you probably know what I was going to say.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Yeah.

2. I think that one cell would be more focused on regenerating itself than evolving. No single cell organism has evolved in conditions that harsh.

3. No. ❌ Pyron would be closer to God than Kain, he already is as you say, a "Big God" lol, by then he could at least create entire worlds and civilizations to serve him and would rule the universe. Really, I see no reason Pyron could not absorb Kain while he's in the sun.

4. Still, I doubt he could shoot it from space, I mean, that is pure speculation.

5. Belial can look into the future of any entity. TOOA could as well. Elder God, idk.

2. not necerily, the sun wouldnt be able to destroy the cell, also its not a choice of evolve/regenerate it would be doing both, evolution is simply adaptions of cells, its not like the cells would choose, i just say BS to kain being vaporised to a cell, thats hyperbole in the first place, hed be literally dead. It would kill him if he became a cell since his brain wouldnt be active, so in purpose, it would not cellulise him anyway.

3. thats me being foolish with the "big god" terms, pyron could never be as close to God as kain, simply because pyron doesnt seem to "gain" new abilities, the guy will reach a wall where he cannot pass, wheras Kain gains all sorts of random powers through his evolution from phsycial, to magical, to all sorts of things, the guy could easily surpass pyron, not to menstin in the end pyron will have no planets left, yet kain will still evolve. He will still be a big bag of cosmic energy for kain to compound. Give him 6 million years and he prob wouldnt have to use that.

4. *shrug* its magic, all sorts of things happen with magic, if he doesnt need clouds/natural source to cast it, which he does not, then in space its just as plasuable, magic can do all sorts of things.

5. thats the thing, Elder God knows the future of any entity, yet kains the exception, kain obviously has some sort of immunity, TOAA prob wouldnt be able to either if hes got a resistence to Omnicience, TOAA is basically the avatar of marval anyway, a bunch of developers, i bet it will be scrapped and a new supreme being in its place if a new editor came.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Dude....saying Kain could eventually become God itself is somewhat...well you probably know what I was going to say.

i meant could become close, God itself is omnipotent but kain would have so many powers that he may as well be God to a mortal imagination.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You missed the B-Day thread Gear made for you in the OTF lol.

!?!?!?!?

*Feels bad now because he was too busy getting wasted and playing Halo 3 to check it out*

weep

Yeah!

I made a specially-designed Halo 3 b'day post for you!

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. not necerily, the sun wouldnt be able to destroy the cell, also its not a choice of evolve/regenerate it would be doing both, evolution is simply adaptions of cells, its not like the cells would choose, i just say BS to kain being vaporised to a cell, thats hyperbole in the first place, hed be literally dead. It would kill him if he became a cell since his brain wouldnt be active, so in purpose, it would not cellulise him anyway.

3. thats me being foolish with the "big god" terms, pyron could never be as close to God as kain, simply because pyron doesnt seem to "gain" new abilities, the guy will reach a wall where he cannot pass, wheras Kain gains all sorts of random powers through his evolution from phsycial, to magical, to all sorts of things, the guy could easily surpass pyron, not to menstin in the end pyron will have no planets left, yet kain will still evolve. He will still be a big bag of cosmic energy for kain to compound. Give him 6 million years and he prob wouldnt have to use that.

4. *shrug* its magic, all sorts of things happen with magic, if he doesnt need clouds/natural source to cast it, which he does not, then in space its just as plasuable, magic can do all sorts of things.

5. thats the thing, Elder God knows the future of any entity, yet kains the exception, kain obviously has some sort of immunity, TOAA prob wouldnt be able to either if hes got a resistence to Omnicience, TOAA is basically the avatar of marval anyway, a bunch of developers, i bet it will be scrapped and a new supreme being in its place if a new editor came.

2. Give Pyron 6 BILLION(not million) years and the universe would of been wholly absorbed and remade, not to mention he would of absorbed Makai and achieved all of their powers(Dimension absorption ftw!) and could just go to the sun and eat Kain's soul if he had to, and Kain could not do diddly doo da about it. He would have vast armies of even more powerful Phobos, cosmic heralds, and all that shit for him to rule, Kain comes out one suped up vamp, to get the shit kicked out of him by a universal army. Kain is already nowhere near Pyron level, why would Kain gain more power than Pyron now? By now Pyron would be thousands, millions, maybe even billions of times greater than lightspeed, and could give Kain a speedblitz never seen in fiction. Pyron will not reach a "wall", his power will have become infinate, and he after absorbing all, would have become an omniscient, all knowing. He will have become more powerful than any being in fiction short of a Supreme Being.

3. Right, in other words, you are guessing.

4. Meh, whatever. Belial and TOAA still one shot Kain.