Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Actually, technically the sun would reduce his body to atoms IMO and kill him, but I'll buy into the can't be killed BS and keep him at a cell, as more of him could not exist in the sun. Or are you now saying Kain can resist the temp of the sun? And what is keeping Pyron from absorbing him?2. Give Pyron 6 BILLION(not million) years and the universe would of been wholly absorbed and remade, not to mention he would of absorbed Makai and achieved all of their powers(Dimension absorption ftw!) and could just go to the sun and eat Kain's soul if he had to, and Kain could not do diddly doo da about it. He would have vast armies of even more powerful Phobos, cosmic heralds, and all that shit for him to rule, Kain comes out one suped up vamp, to get the shit kicked out of him by a universal army. Kain is already nowhere near Pyron level, why would Kain gain more power than Pyron now? By now Pyron would be thousands, millions, maybe even billions of times greater than lightspeed, and could give Kain a speedblitz never seen in fiction. Pyron will not reach a "wall", his power will have become infinate, and he after absorbing all, would have become an omniscient, all knowing. He will have become more powerful than any being in fiction short of a Supreme Being.
3. Right, in other words, you are guessing.
4. Meh, whatever. Belial and TOAA still one shot Kain.
1. yes it would, except kain cannot be killed, as a cell he would be dead, so he would have to be immune to the suns heat, a cell by itself wouldnt be a live if its not from a whole, also Pyron absrobs living energy, life, Kain isnt that, kains excistence is from magical means, pyron doesnt eat magic...hell hes never absrobed anything more than a planet and the time it takes to absorb has never been proven, it could take him an exceedingly long while to absrob them.
2. remade? hes never remade a planet, the only thing hes ever made are robots, completly diffrent to true life, souls, processes, the thing has never been able to do it. Also please show me when hes ever moved through dimensions, ive never had that said about him..eat kains soul? the thing has never eaten souls, simple. Give kain 6 billion years and with a TK force all the phobos robots would be mltenised pieces and with another wave of his arm Pyron would be being energy drained and compounded to a speck, hell he can do that anyway with the energy emblem, but 6 billion years later, he may even go hand to hand for a laugh. shit kicked out of him rofl...hell prob just warp reality to an extent pyron could never imagine and delete them all from excistence. Also no by now he wouldnt excist, he would have been sucked into a blackhole and pwned by his own size lmao, also wheres the evidence his orignal powers increase by a factor? for example going fast. Ifnitie power, never within pyrons reach...Kain would simply laugh as he uses new powers he has gained and beat pyron to hell with his own energy. Kains limits are boundless, pyrons are depended upon planets which he has not shown to be able to create, only mere robots, so saying he gains the power to remake unvierses is completly BS, at least i know Kain gains new powers so his move list could end up gainging anything he would need, 6 billion years pyron would wish he didnt excist.
3. educated/logical guess, your saying through magic, and you have evidence that no magic could make lightning apear in space, its magic, since when has magic done normal things. What we know is that kain uses magic to cast them, and can fire them from his reaver...hell hes got the energy emblem, if he faces an energy source hell rip it and blast beings with it, why woud he use lightning when theres something like the sun.
4. TOAA yes, belial, ime not so sure, the things stupid as hell (destroy my own body ftw) and has nothing on omnipotence. Has it ever taken a soul?
Originally posted by Burning thought1. So you think Kain's body>The sun? No. Just, no. Kain already cannot die as you say, thinking he would live in a cellular form is not far fetched at all, tho personally, I do think it will kill him, I think Kain's unkillable nature in LOK is just because they lack the means to kill him. The sun does not. Also, Pyron takes no time at all to absorb planets, as shown in one os his endings and the UDON comics. Btw, life energy, is life essence, he would absorb the life right out of Kain(well, his unlife).
1. yes it would, except kain cannot be killed, as a cell he would be dead, so he would have to be immune to the suns heat, a cell by itself wouldnt be a live if its not from a whole, also Pyron absrobs living energy, life, Kain isnt that, kains excistence is from magical means, pyron doesnt eat magic...hell hes never absrobed anything more than a planet and the time it takes to absorb has never been proven, it could take him an exceedingly long while to absrob them.2. remade? hes never remade a planet, the only thing hes ever made are robots, completly diffrent to true life, souls, processes, the thing has never been able to do it. Also please show me when hes ever moved through dimensions, ive never had that said about him..eat kains soul? the thing has never eaten souls, simple. Give kain 6 billion years and with a TK force all the phobos robots would be mltenised pieces and with another wave of his arm Pyron would be being energy drained and compounded to a speck, hell he can do that anyway with the energy emblem, but 6 billion years later, he may even go hand to hand for a laugh. shit kicked out of him rofl...hell prob just warp reality to an extent pyron could never imagine and delete them all from excistence. Also no by now he wouldnt excist, he would have been sucked into a blackhole and pwned by his own size lmao, also wheres the evidence his orignal powers increase by a factor? for example going fast. Ifnitie power, never within pyrons reach...Kain would simply laugh as he uses new powers he has gained and beat pyron to hell with his own energy. Kains limits are boundless, pyrons are depended upon planets which he has not shown to be able to create, only mere robots, so saying he gains the power to remake unvierses is completly BS, at least i know Kain gains new powers so his move list could end up gainging anything he would need, 6 billion years pyron would wish he didnt excist.
3. educated/logical guess, your saying through magic, and you have evidence that no magic could make lightning apear in space, its magic, since when has magic done normal things. What we know is that kain uses magic to cast them, and can fire them from his reaver...hell hes got the energy emblem, if he faces an energy source hell rip it and blast beings with it, why woud he use lightning when theres something like the sun.
4. TOAA yes, belial, ime not so sure, the things stupid as hell (destroy my own body ftw) and has nothing on omnipotence. Has it ever taken a soul?
2. You see, by absorbing Earth/Makai, he would gain all of their powers as well, and their knowledge. Never before has he found such a powerful planet to eat, with such unique powers, if he does the smart thing and just eat it right away, he would have Jedah's, Demitri's, Morrigan's, and all the other powers. Plus magic. 🙂 With Jedah's powers he could easily eat Kain's soul as he is in the sun(which would kill him actually). Pyron can make matter, and the Phobos have emotions and can think btw, just cause it's a robot does not mean it has no soul(I-Robot lol). In 6 billion years of eating planets, including Earth/Makai, he would be able to shape matter much more impressively, like into a planet, he would be much more intelligent, and btw, in the CFE comics, he made living cosmic heralds with souls, tho I'm not sure if abilities are canon in that comic. Also, Pyron has ALREADY evolved to the highest state of evolution, and Kain would be dead in the sun me thinks, or Pyron would eat his life force, or he would use the powers he absorbed from Jedah to eat his soul.
3. You still have no evidence to back up Kain's lightning working in space, which I think is impossible actually. Also, you do realize you just said Kain would use the power of the sun, right? When it supernovas, it will be gone lol, well technically it will be a white dwarf.
4. Belial only did that because as Morrigan says, "I've never seen Father so angry". Belial PROBABLY has soul powers, alot of Makai do, and he is most powerful.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. So you think Kain's body>The sun? No. Just, no. Kain already cannot die as you say, thinking he would live in a cellular form is not far fetched at all, tho personally, I do think it will kill him, I think Kain's unkillable nature in LOK is just because they lack the means to kill him. The sun does not. Also, Pyron takes no time at all to absorb planets, as shown in one os his endings and the UDON comics. Btw, life energy, is life essence, he would absorb the life right out of Kain(well, his unlife).2. You see, by absorbing Earth/Makai, he would gain all of their powers as well, and their knowledge. Never before has he found such a powerful planet to eat, with such unique powers, if he does the smart thing and just eat it right away, he would have Jedah's, Demitri's, Morrigan's, and all the other powers. Plus magic. 🙂 With Jedah's powers he could easily eat Kain's soul as he is in the sun(which would kill him actually). Pyron can make matter, and the Phobos have emotions and can think btw, just cause it's a robot does not mean it has no soul(I-Robot lol). In 6 billion years of eating planets, including Earth/Makai, he would be able to shape matter much more impressively, like into a planet, he would be much more intelligent, and btw, in the CFE comics, he made living cosmic heralds with souls, tho I'm not sure if abilities are canon in that comic. Also, Pyron has ALREADY evolved to the highest state of evolution, and Kain would be dead in the sun me thinks, or Pyron would eat his life force, or he would use the powers he absorbed from Jedah to eat his soul.
3. You still have no evidence to back up Kain's lightning working in space, which I think is impossible actually. Also, you do realize you just said Kain would use the power of the sun, right? When it supernovas, it will be gone lol, well technically it will be a white dwarf.
4. Belial only did that because as Morrigan says, "I've never seen Father so angry". Belial PROBABLY has soul powers, alot of Makai do, and he is most powerful.
1. dont have the means, the Elder God is the size of Nosgoth, has energy powers and is in all time at once and all he can do is bury kain, cannot kill him...none of the beings hes faced can kill him, Moebius has a staff thats specially made againt vampires making them weak, you may have seen in a video, if other things could kill him, moebius could of had the guy thrown into the sea, had their spellcasters blast him with energy, so many things the characters have capability over, not to menstion all the guardians he killed as young kain, who have the powers of kains emblems, none of them could kill him...the sun would not kill kain, and as a cell (BS imo, he wont be able to live as a cell, so he wont become one) but if he was supposing such sillyness is taken as fact, you would end up making him so much more powerful, the cell, like real cells in evoltuion would evolve, in several years kains cell would be immune to the suns pressure and heat, you would effectively be making a God out of kain by throwing him and putting him in situations like that. Also how did he get in the sun in the first place 🙄 , oh yes, i pretended pyron could actually pull that off. No pyron cannot eat magic, or unlife...sorry but he cant.
2. Earth have no powers....humans dont have special powers...and when has he ever been able to shift dimensions, can he even do it? has he ever been to Makai? you think hes capable of taking jedah, ludicrous, Demitri absorbed him, he would do the same, same with jedah only jedah would soul rape him. It does, robots dont have souls and no, planets dont consist of matter alone, he would have to give life itself, hes never done so...also can you show me where his abilities get more powerful? from what ive seen he just gets bigger, does his speed increase? show me please.....also uncanon stuff is uncanon full stop, unless their canon, in which case morrigan and demitri>>cats. Rubbish pyron highest state of evolution rofl, probably in Darkstalkers, but his pathetic evolutionary state is nothing. Can you also prove Pyron gains the powers of those he absorbs? like jedah can...or more importantly can jedah even do it, it says he absrobs their power increasing his own, but not their individual abilities ive never seen anything say he gains that.
3. evidence, and you have evidence to back up your points in "2"? no you dont, its logical sense, magic can break laws. yes it would be a white dwarf, its still the sun...not that kain would be in it for 6 billion years, give him about 100 years, then hes free...
4. yeh, most dumbas omnicent being in history, even a human with a gun wouldnt blow his leg off because a wasp just stung it..."darn demitri ill blow my body and lose half my power, good idea!!" lmao 🙄 and yes as you say, Possibly
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Pyron can pull it off, he can instantly tele to the other side of the planet, and after Time Reaver wears off, he either teles the planet to the sun, or he could come back and tele Kain to the ocean(which will not put out Pyron's fire, he's been in the ocean). The sun>LOKverse dude. All the things you said Kain has survived pale in comparison to the sun, and Pyron for that matter. Kain is still a form of life, and can be eaten.
1. dont have the means, the Elder God is the size of Nosgoth, has energy powers and is in all time at once and all he can do is bury kain, cannot kill him...none of the beings hes faced can kill him, Moebius has a staff thats specially made againt vampires making them weak, you may have seen in a video, if other things could kill him, moebius could of had the guy thrown into the sea, had their spellcasters blast him with energy, so many things the characters have capability over, not to menstion all the guardians he killed as young kain, who have the powers of kains emblems, none of them could kill him...the sun would not kill kain, and as a cell (BS imo, he wont be able to live as a cell, so he wont become one) but if he was supposing such sillyness is taken as fact, you would end up making him so much more powerful, the cell, like real cells in evoltuion would evolve, in several years kains cell would be immune to the suns pressure and heat, you would effectively be making a God out of kain by throwing him and putting him in situations like that. Also how did he get in the sun in the first place 🙄 , oh yes, i pretended pyron could actually pull that off. No pyron cannot eat magic, or unlife...sorry but he cant.2. Earth have no powers....humans dont have special powers...and when has he ever been able to shift dimensions, can he even do it? has he ever been to Makai? you think hes capable of taking jedah, ludicrous, Demitri absorbed him, he would do the same, same with jedah only jedah would soul rape him. It does, robots dont have souls and no, planets dont consist of matter alone, he would have to give life itself, hes never done so...also can you show me where his abilities get more powerful? from what ive seen he just gets bigger, does his speed increase? show me please.....also uncanon stuff is uncanon full stop, unless their canon, in which case morrigan and demitri>>cats. Rubbish pyron highest state of evolution rofl, probably in Darkstalkers, but his pathetic evolutionary state is nothing. Can you also prove Pyron gains the powers of those he absorbs? like jedah can...or more importantly can jedah even do it, it says he absrobs their power increasing his own, but not their individual abilities ive never seen anything say he gains that.
3. evidence, and you have evidence to back up your points in "2"? no you dont, its logical sense, magic can break laws. yes it would be a white dwarf, its still the sun...not that kain would be in it for 6 billion years, give him about 100 years, then hes free...
4. yeh, most dumbas omnicent being in history, even a human with a gun wouldnt blow his leg off because a wasp just stung it..."darn demitri ill blow my body and lose half my power, good idea!!" lmao 🙄 and yes as you say, Possibly
2. He only lost to Demitri cause like a buttmonkey he fought them. If he stayed in space and just ate the planet, there would not be diddly doo da Demitri or Jedah could do about it. Planets actual structure consists of matter, and the Phobos can think, and have real emotions. Sounds pretty alive to me. What uncanon stuff? The UDON comics which have been confirmed by the creators to show canon abilities? I am just making an educated guess that Pyron can take the unique powers of those he absorbs, as he ABSORBS them. Jedah doesn't absorb their powers, he takes in their energy which increases his own power, Pyron outright absorbs them. Pyron's pathetic evolution? ROFL, compared to what? Kain's pathetic bulletspeed and some nifty abilities? That's all he really is, a weak character with some nifty powers. Pyron has so many ways to beat Kain, tele to the sun, eat the planet, destroy all the land on earth which would flood it, among others. Really, if Pyron ate the planet, let us just say Kain did survive, he would be infinately floating in space, unable to move due to the pressure.
3. Considering he would be dead in the sun, I highly doubt this.
4. I really don't care about defending Belial, since I don't really know jack shit about him other than a few vague sources.
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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Pyron can pull it off, he can instantly tele to the other side of the planet, and after Time Reaver wears off, he either teles the planet to the sun, or he could come back and tele Kain to the ocean(which will not put out Pyron's fire, he's been in the ocean). The sun>LOKverse dude. All the things you said Kain has survived pale in comparison to the sun, and Pyron for that matter. Kain is still a form of life, and can be eaten.2. He only lost to Demitri cause like a buttmonkey he fought them. If he stayed in space and just ate the planet, there would not be diddly doo da Demitri or Jedah could do about it. Planets actual structure consists of matter, and the Phobos can think, and have real emotions. Sounds pretty alive to me. What uncanon stuff? The UDON comics which have been confirmed by the creators to show canon abilities? I am just making an educated guess that Pyron can take the unique powers of those he absorbs, as he ABSORBS them. Jedah doesn't absorb their powers, he takes in their energy which increases his own power, Pyron outright absorbs them. Pyron's pathetic evolution? ROFL, compared to what? Kain's pathetic bulletspeed and some nifty abilities? That's all he really is, a weak character with some nifty powers. Pyron has so many ways to beat Kain, tele to the sun, eat the planet, destroy all the land on earth which would flood it, among others. Really, if Pyron ate the planet, let us just say Kain did survive, he would be infinately floating in space, unable to move due to the pressure.
3. Considering he would be dead in the sun, I highly doubt this.
4. I really don't care about defending Belial, since I don't really know jack shit about him other than a few vague sources.
1. yes and Kain can instantly teleport also, kain would simply follow, soul rape/energy compact..while pyrons stuck in time and wtf, the sun>lokverse lmao......the sun has no attributes the LOK guys couldnt do unto kain, throwing him into the ocean to kain would be the same as throwing him into the sun, only without the pressure, the Elder God logcially should be able to beat kain, with its use of energy powers...Dejoule the energist has boundless energy manipulation and both her and the Nature guardian could use lightning, as weve been through, it can be hotter than the sun. Across the board something in the LOkverse "should" have the abilities to beat kain, yet none of them can and they all agree to this, even the arrogent, omncieiant Elder God itself, the sun wont be killing kain.. No kain is a form of death and so cannot be eaten, hes only excisting through magical means...he wont be eaten, especially not before Kain compacts pyron or soul rapes the thing, or among his millions of ways to beat pyron choooses one from random.
2. yeh if he had done so, also where does it say he abosrbs planets instantly, further more, educated guess lol, he absorbs their energy, same way jedah does, he doesnt gain their powers dude dont try and throw out random rubbish. Yes comapred to kains 10,000 years 10,000!! to like 2 million? wtf you on?...in 10,000 kains got powers over time, minds, souls, energy and thats without the reaver, the reaver with all emblems can do most of that as well as mind, conflict, dimensions and the guy is still contantly evolving, Pyrons just a bag of cosmic rubbish going around eating planets, peak of evolution? lmfao....its a joke to even think that, peak of evolution for his race, for kain, its a laugh especially comparing 10k with 2 mil...
3. lawl , if he gets him in, it does nothing but makes him stronger, then we go onto the 90% chance he has of failing in this anyway.