Originally posted by NemeBro1. The point is the mind has to be mature to handle those concepts. That could scare the crap out of a kid whereas Link fighting dragons won't.
1. No, the same way I would not want my kids to see their mother be raped and decapitated by a shovel and left dead in a ditch. Is that mature behavior? No, it is not, but it is certainly not child friendly.2. 😐
So you don't actually have any proof, you only ASSUME that US schools are by superior?
All I needed to hear, you sir, are an ignorant blight upon this country and it is people like you who give it a bad name.
Quan, I would be shocked to discover you finished high school, let alone college.
2.I'm right as always.
I posted the 09 rankings where american schools are recognized all over and have the number 1 ranking and number 3 ranking. It's also common sense that the united states would have the best schools and lookey who was right like always. Don't be mad at me for being right.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelWhat's wrong with it? Please point it out because saying this is all wrong isn't how people debate, sporto.
Oh God the amount of wrong with this. 😬
Originally posted by NemeBroI played the first two and alttp. I just recently beat tp and progressed near the end of oot. I guess mm and ww really shake things up. Laughs. I hear people arguing against the Hylden Lord and they didn't even play the game yet you come at me.
Quan's opinion is roughly equivalent to a pile of bear shit, do not worry about it.
I'm also discussing the maturity of the content within the games not the characters. Yet you call me dumb and still haven't figured this out. Wow.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeSo the point of the feat wasn't the creators showing him to be strong it was instead a character made up of paper? Laughs.
Yeah, and Quan, Death has no durability feats in that game. Which makes ripping him in half the equivalent of cutting through paper.
Originally posted by NemeBroKeep crying.
Shut up Quan.
Originally posted by PhanterosSo? When did Link rip anyone in half?
Death in DI wasn't even impressive. Infact he was featless.
Originally posted by quanchi1121. I have been playing M-rated games since I was 5 or 6. 😐 I played the original Turok for instance, as my first M rated game. Is a 13 year old boy mature? Because shit like gratituous violence for the sake of gratituous violence is right up a 13 year old boy's alley.
1. The point is the mind has to be mature to handle those concepts. That could scare the crap out of a kid whereas Link fighting dragons won't.2.I'm right as always.
I posted the 09 rankings where american schools are recognized all over and have the number 1 ranking and number 3 ranking. It's also common sense that the united states would have the best schools and lookey who was right like always. Don't be mad at me for being right.
I played the first two and alttp. I just recently beat tp and progressed near the end of oot. I guess mm and ww really shake things up. Laughs. I hear people arguing against the Hylden Lord and they didn't even play the game yet you come at me.
I'm also discussing the maturity of the content within the games not the characters. Yet you call me dumb and still haven't figured this out. Wow.
2. How many people can afford to go to Harvard? Not many, the point went far over your head. To get a quality college education in America, you need obscene sums of money to be able to attend them, and most people lack that kind of money. I already said that the best schools in the US are really good, and they of course are, but you being you (An illiterate fool) clearly missed this.
Why is it common sense for the US, which is far from being 1st in education, to have the best colleges? And you were barely right, Harvard by a margin is above Cambridge, and not to a ridiculous extent above most on that list, most US colleges are below ones in other developed countries. United States education on a whole is shit, this is a fact.
3. No, it is blatantly obvious you never played any of the games. 🙂
4. ?
When did I bring up the maturity of the characters?
Considering I directly stated that the maturity of the protagonist does not necessarily correlate with the maturity of the work, what the **** are you talking about?
Originally posted by PhanterosWith boots which made the feat possible. I don't want to derail the offtopic thread into another zelda debate.
He hasn't but he sure as hell capable of.(E rated games don't allow decapitation on humanish things.)The guy tossed a goron much larger than a human being. My point remains Death is weaksauce.
If you want to continue this bump the appropriate thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What's wrong with it? Please point it out because saying this is all wrong isn't how people debate, sporto.
God Of War has been around 5 years. Zelda has been around 24. God Of War has I think 4 or 5 games. Zelda has 15. You claim God of War raises the bar and Zelda is going downhill. What am I suppose to say to that? God Of War uses the same formula for every game. Zelda has been experimenting since its first sequel. Yes OoT is considered the high point of the series. And sure, TP resembles it. But it could be worse. Could be like Final Fantasy 7 where they continuously add much more than necessary. I'm not saying Zelda is better than God Of War, but it does experiment more and tries new things. How this correlates to going downhill doesn't make sense. Please elaborate. Also, note that you called TP terrible even though I know several individuals that liked the game.
Originally posted by NemeBro1.Most 13 year olds watch r rated films doesn't make it right or wrong but most boys like to see this type of stuff. Now most 13 year olds are more mature and won't be as scared as say 5 year olds. If the violence means nothing then let 5 year olds see the gow games.
1. I have been playing M-rated games since I was 5 or 6. 😐 I played the original Turok for instance, as my first M rated game. Is a 13 year old boy mature? Because shit like gratituous violence for the sake of gratituous violence is right up a 13 year old boy's alley.2. How many people can afford to go to Harvard? Not many, the point went far over your head. To get a quality college education in America, you need obscene sums of money to be able to attend them, and most people lack that kind of money. I already said that the best schools in the US are really good, and they of course are, but you being you (An illiterate fool) clearly missed this.
Why is it common sense for the US, which is far from being 1st in education, to have the best colleges? And you were barely right, Harvard by a margin is above Cambridge, and not to a ridiculous extent above most on that list, most US colleges are below ones in other developed countries. United States education on a whole is shit, this is a fact.
3. No, it is blatantly obvious you never played any of the games. 🙂
4. ?
When did I bring up the maturity of the characters?
Considering I directly stated that the maturity of the protagonist does not necessarily correlate with the maturity of the work, what the **** are you talking about?
2.You are missing the point I said america has the best of universities. I was right and america also has a lot of terrible things going on due to the sheer size and population of this nation but like usual the best universities are in the us. Feel the burn I was right and didn't need to go look it up because unlike you I have common sense. I did for you and guess what I was right all along.
Number 1 and number 3 and all throughout the list. I originally compared these colleges to canada which had one university.
3.I did play them unlike you arguing in threads without even playing the games proving you are a fanboy.
Ah, looked back and the wrong quote showed up. That was meant for phanteros.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelIt's the same thing over and over again whereas GOw isn't. You don't run around dungeons looking for the same keys, the same items, and fighting the same bosses. I mean giant spiders, dragons, seeing those foolish gorons, etc. In gow you actually fight on a titan's back while there is a war going on the entire game which is completely new and original.
God Of War has been around 5 years. Zelda has been around 24. God Of War has I think 4 or 5 games. Zelda has 15. You claim God of War raises the bar and Zelda is going downhill. What am I suppose to say to that? God Of War uses the same formula for every game. Zelda has been experimenting since its first sequel. Yes OoT is considered the high point of the series. And sure, TP resembles it. But it could be worse. Could be like Final Fantasy 7 where they continuously add much more than necessary. I'm not saying Zelda is better than God Of War, but it does experiment more and tries new things. How this correlates to going downhill doesn't make sense. Please elaborate. Also, note that you called TP terrible even though I know several individuals that liked the game.
You beat the bosses down in new and interesting ways. You don't fight the same enemies. Once you kill them they are dead.
Yes, zelda has been around a lot longer but gow is here to stay and isn't slowing down it's gaining momentum and appeals to casucal gamers much more than zelda.
God of War is a hack and slash with some Quick Time events and a few relatively simple puzzles last I checked.
Granted, I've only seen GoW1. However, if I am correct then that is not raising the bar each time.
But, do you notice how both of us are simplifying the games now? Yeah. Neither one of them sound too great when we do that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's the same thing over and over again whereas GOw isn't. You don't run around dungeons looking for the same keys, the same items, and fighting the same bosses. I mean giant spiders, dragons, seeing those foolish gorons, etc. In gow you actually fight on a titan's back while there is a war going on the entire game which is completely new and original.You beat the bosses down in new and interesting ways. You don't fight the same enemies. Once you kill them they are dead.
Yes, zelda has been around a lot longer but gow is here to stay and isn't slowing down it's gaining momentum and appeals to casucal gamers much more than zelda.
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I know you haven't played the first 2 Zelda Games now. On a Titan's back!? No f*cking way!
Are you serious? God Of War 2 looks the same as God Of War to me. As does God Of War 3. And I've yet to see a Zelda game that I can't recognize quickly from the others. Even the really bad Zelda games are infamous and unmistakable. Tell me right now something that makes all the God Of War games unique from the others in the series. Because I can't tell looking at gameplay footage. I really can't. 😐
Originally posted by PhanterosYou don't do the same things in each game. You don't become a giant and fight the last guy every single game. The bad guy doesn't get away every single time. You don't get the same weapons every single game.
GoW and Zelda follows their GENRES tropes. Both do the same thing in each game only with tacked on game mechanics. Zelda apeals to casual gametards too. Every game does this.Shut up.
In zelda for the most part you do.
Gow blows zelda out of the water with casual gamers.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeYou haven't played them an dyes they do unlike zelda.
God of War is a hack and slash with some Quick Time events and a few relatively simple puzzles last I checked.Granted, I've only seen GoW1. However, if I am correct then that is not raising the bar each time.
But, do you notice how both of us are simplifying the games now? Yeah. Neither one of them sound too great when we do that.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelYes, I did. One refreshing thing was dorf or ganon back then was only in the game when you died. I still remember goomba or gooma with the ball and chain carock the wizard you reflected back the magic with and the dark wizard at the end.
😐I know you haven't played the first 2 Zelda Games now. On a Titan's back!? No f*cking way!
Are you serious? God Of War 2 looks the same as God Of War to me. As does God Of War 3. And I've yet to see a Zelda game that I can't recognize quickly from the others. Even the really bad Zelda games are infamous and unmistakable. Tell me right now something that makes all the God Of War games unique from the others in the series. Because I can't tell looking at gameplay footage. I really can't. 😐
So fighting on a tian's back isn't something new to the series? Fighting a boss the size of a mountain while keeping your distance and warding him off isn't new to the series?
I know fighting giant spiders is pretty original. I know saving the gorons is pretty original.
I already did, the boss battles, the weapons, the storylines, etc.
Originally posted by NemeBroOf course zelda changed the format when the first game was 8 bit it kind of limits your options.
Zelda and God of War have barely changed shit with their subsequent games. 😐Zelda has been the same formula since OoT at the very least, probably longer, and GoW has also had the same basic formula.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Gow has improved upon things and isn't revisiting the same bosses, the same major villains, the same major gameplay items like zelda.
I notice you haven't actually refuted anything, Quan. If you read what you say, you'll notice that what you are doing is delving into more information on God of War, and choosing not to do the same for Zelda.
"God of War you fight on a titans back while a war is going on! Zelda is just dungeons and a stupid boss battle."
So let me delve into more for you.
Zelda dungeons do tend to follow the same basic locations, but the puzzles are never the same. The entire Water Temple is based on water level, I can't say for sure, but I'd bet OoT was one of the first to do that the way it did, what with 3D games being relatively new.
The Twilight Princess water temple has you redirect streams of the stuff down staircases. Now to do the second step in your style, downplay the other game. Is there any such depth to a God of War puzzle?
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeThe point is you are visiting the same locations and meeting with the same types of people. In gow you don't meet the oracle again after part 1 nor do you go back to the mountain on the back of cronos.
I notice you haven't actually refuted anything, Quan. If you read what you say, you'll notice that what you are doing is delving into more information on God of War, and choosing not to do the same for Zelda."God of War you fight on a titans back while a war is going on! Zelda is just dungeons and a stupid boss battle."
So let me delve into more for you.
Zelda dungeons do tend to follow the same basic locations, but the puzzles are never the same. The entire Water Temple is based on water level, I can't say for sure, but I'd bet OoT was one of the first to do that the way it did, what with 3D games being relatively new.
The Twilight Princess water temple has you redirect streams of the stuff down staircases. Now to do the second step in your style, downplay the other game. Is there any such depth to a God of War puzzle?
You actually fight him later in the series but with zelda the puzzles have changed obviously but you still typically meet the gorons, meet the zoras, fight giant spiders, get hookshots, get the master sword, and fight Dorf.
In gow it isn't like that at all. In the first one you go after and defeat Ares. In gow 2 you are killed and go back in time and come after zeus the moment he was about to kill you. He then escapes so you go back and get the titans and lead an assault on olympus.
Basically you wipe out every god and titan you run into. In zelda you know sooner or later here comes dorf and then when you save the day things go back to normal whereas in gow the world was in upheaval because you destroyed every last god and upset the balance of the entire world.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know fighting giant spiders is pretty original. I know saving the gorons is pretty original.I already did, the boss battles, the weapons, the storylines, etc.
Different boss battles in a game? Well I'll be, you might have a point there. If you forget that Zelda is an original whereas most of the bosses in God Of War are not. They are the bases of real characters in Greek Mythology. So no, I'm afraid your right. Zelda does not have it easy. But here's the thing: You're final boss isn't always Ganon. Not that it matters. The fact that he comes back is nothing but proof that he is an important part to the series. Different weapons in a videogame? Well I'll be you got me there. Except you know, different weapons and items exist in Zelda. Sure, some are reused, like the hookshot and the mirror shield. But those are favorite weapons of fans of the games, so... And storyline is just so insane of a thing to say. Of course the story is different, its a different game. Stories are different in Zelda dude. Oh yeah, by the way, I asked to help me tell the games apart through gameplay footage. Storyline does not do that. If I've never played a God Of War Game, I won't recognize different weapons or bosses. Contrary to that, I've never played Zelda and can still tell them apart.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelKratos is a fictional character and gaia is a titan. Giant spiders are hardly original nor are dragons.
Different boss battles in a game? Well I'll be, you might have a point there. If you forget that Zelda is an original whereas most of the bosses in God Of War are not. They are the bases of real characters in Greek Mythology. So no, I'm afraid your right. Zelda does not have it easy. But here's the thing: You're final boss isn't always Ganon. Not that it matters. The fact that he comes back is nothing but proof that he is an important part to the series. Different weapons in a videogame? Well I'll be you got me there. Except you know, different weapons and items exist in Zelda. Sure, some are reused, like the hookshot and the mirror shield. But those are favorite weapons of fans of the games, so... And storyline is just so insane of a thing to say. Of course the story is different, its a different game. Stories are different in Zelda dude. Oh yeah, by the way, I asked to help me tell the games apart through gameplay footage. Storyline does not do that. If I've never played a God Of War Game, I won't recognize different weapons or bosses. Contrary to that, I've never played Zelda and can still tell them apart.
Yes, the same people, the same items, the same tired locations seem to be used. I am saying the creators at zelda have gotten lazy and uncreative whereas the gow creators have gotten more creative as the series has progressed.
You don't get the sword of atlas in each game. For the most part dorf is in almost every zelda game. Not the same as in gow and the story progresses unlike zelda which has only a few direct continuations only to have them start over again and again with the same kinds of things occurring pretty much.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos is a fictional character and gaia is a titan. Giant spiders are hardly original nor are dragons.Yes, the same people, the same items, the same tired locations seem to be used. I am saying the creators at zelda have gotten lazy and uncreative whereas the gow creators have gotten more creative as the series has progressed.
You don't get the sword of atlas in each game. For the most part dorf is in almost every zelda game. Not the same as in gow and the story progresses unlike zelda which has only a few direct continuations only to have them start over again and again with the same kinds of things occurring pretty much.
Link is a fictional character and Zelda is a princess. You just said 2 things I've already known. You keep complaining about originality when you haven't played all the games. And like I said, name a few bosses in GOW that are original. 🙂
Same locations? Its always Hyrule so if the locations changed between games, wouldn't that be an inconsistency? Yes, Zelda is getting really uncreative. I suppose you haven't seen the trailer to Skyward Sword huh?
I can name at least 3 that he is not in. And again, I've not played the games. I'm sure someone who has could easily name more if there are any. Story progresses in Zelda as well because most the Link's are different and as such, they have different adventures. And the story does progress in games that have a clear place in the timeline.