Woohoo, official off-topic thread!

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually its pretty clear to me that Loghain allowed the tower to be taken by the darkspawn. If you go to it before the battle his forces have barracaded the entire place off and are 'exploring tunnels beneath the tower' (you'd think the 'tactical genius' would be somewhat aware that the thing which his entire plan hinges upon has a vast network of tunnels beneath it that the darkspawn could obviously use). Theres also the gigantic hole in the ground which the darkspawn obviously came through, which I highly doubt they missed as well as the tower already being covered in darkspawn decorations.

Loghains plan basically hinged on the signal not being set off so he could realistically say that he didn't support the king because the signal wasn't lit and the signal wasn't lit because the Wardens who were sent to light it were traitors. When it is lit he panics and orders a retreat anyway no matter how guilty it makes him look (a hell of a lot).

If they lost? Who the hell says they would have? Despite Loghains purposefully bad tactics (yes, run out of a bottleneck, that'll end well 🙄 ) they were doing fine and if Loghain had actually charged their flank they would have won by my reckoning. What makes you think they would have lost at all?

The Warden only fought stragglers and such. The video on the last page (or one before that) shows how massive the horde is. Like shit 4 people could take that.

You can't tell me whether they would have won or lost if he decided to back the King and charge into battle. Loghain still can be a hero in the end and making it one of the shortest blights ever.

The horde isn't together unless they are being summoned by the archdemon. My whole argument was arguing about eradicating the darkspawn without an archdemon present.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm, you get beaten in combat. It's plain and simple in the game through cinema you needed Flemeth's aid. You want to blame Loghain for everything even the hero temp falling in battle.

You can't tell me whether they would have won or lost if he decided to back the King and charge into battle. Loghain still can be a hero in the end and making it one of the shortest blights ever.

The horde isn't together unless they are being summoned by the archdemon. My whole argument was arguing about eradicating the darkspawn without an archdemon present.

Yes it is his fault for letting the tower get infested. Did you even read what I wrote?

So, they would have crippled the blight had he fought. Ostagar is the most defensive place in Fereldan and everyone you talk to is confident in victory. Hell, Loghains so confident he thinks he can still take them with a third of his army dead and Ostagar fallen. Without Loghain shitting everything up you're damn right things would have been a whole lot better. And without Loghain causing all the shit he does, even with the loss of the kings army you still have the Redcliff reinforcemenets, Highever reinforcements, the rest of the human nobles reinforcements, the Circle of Magi and the Grey Warden and Orlais reinforcements to come and mop up the rest of the greatly weakened horde.

And you're wrong. As Nemebro and Blax have pointed out already.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Nephthys, you need hipster glasses.

That is all.

They don't match my ample bossoms.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes it is his fault for letting the tower get infested. Did you even read what I wrote?

So, they would have crippled the blight had he fought. Ostagar is the most defensive place in Fereldan and everyone you talk to is confident in victory. Hell, Loghains so confident he thinks he can still take them with a third of his army dead and Ostagar fallen. Without Loghain shitting everything up you're damn right things would have been a whole lot better. And without Loghain causing all the shit he does, even with the loss of the kings army you still have the Redcliff reinforcemenets, Highever reinforcements, the rest of the human nobles reinforcements, the Circle of Magi and the Grey Warden and Orlais reinforcements to come and mop up the rest of the greatly weakened horde.

And you're wrong. As Nemebro and Blax have pointed out already.

They don't match my ample bossoms.

Get off Loghain. The they still succeeded and he can even become a grey warden once he's welcomed in he's fine.

The darkspawn are cruddy without the archdemon. They flee like cowards at the end just with the archdemon dead.

Silly Neph, everything goes with ample bosoms. Just ask Peach.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Silly Neph, everything goes with ample bosoms. Just ask Peach.

Hey, what are you implying here? That I wear hipster glasses? I should be insulted!

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Don't take that kind of abuse Peach! Cut his wee-wee off! Girl Power!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I did read it. No, it's still up to the hero to watch his own ass. Loghain didn't realize how valuable the wardens were so that can't be held against him.

Get off Loghain. The they still succeeded and he can even become a grey warden once he's welcomed in he's fine.

The darkspawn are cruddy without the archdemon. They flee like cowards at the end just with the archdemon dead.

No it isn't you loon. If Loghain is the guy who created the problem he's the guy to blame for it. Him letting the darkspawn into the tower is his flipping fault!

Yes it can be held against him! Its still a moronic tactical decision to throw away troops who are as useful as the Wardens for no real reason whatsoever! He's an idiot for doing it.

Oh my god you're like a broken record. Fvck Loghain. They succeeded in spite of him. He made the situation infinately worse with his actions because he's a bloody moron.

Even without the Archdemons they've all but wiped out the dwarven race, save for one last city. Theres a reason they own the entire of the Deep roads. Even without the Archedemons they are a match for the rest of Thedas. They only run because the Archedemons been killed and they're demoralised. Regular darkspawn do not flee from every fight obviously. 🙄

But that would mean less fun for both of us!

I'll just stab his face in next time we play Assassin's Creed 😄

She is good at stabbing my face in.

I stab her in return, though. 😄

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Ew, too much information.

and by 'ew' I mean 'tell me more'

She likes it when I grab her from behind and slip it between a couple ribs.

Of course, in return I usually get an eyeful.

...****, you win. I can't even come up with a reply to that because I can't stop laughing.

Thank you, thank you. 😄

You have warped my poor fragile little mind. 🙁

lol rogue.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You have warped my poor fragile little mind. 🙁

Well, warped it even more then. 😛

Oh come on now, that was nothing 😛

Originally posted by Peach
Oh come on now, that was nothing 😛

Rather rude to say that in public. 😛

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