Originally posted by Evil_Ashwell apokolips now is on panel proof. u fall in the same categoy of many darkseid fans. u deny his losses but accpet his wins. that sums it up becuz the on panel proof i gave u, u want to disregard it. but its canon and u have to accept it. things have changed.
And we use on panel proof here...Just plain bad writing? ermmnone
Originally posted by starkingwhy keep bringing up the ancient past when it has obvioulsy changed in the present. ds aint waht he used to be. hes written now as falling off steps,getting curbstomped by doomsday, and getting his ass kicked by superman consecutively. its a depowered supes to precrisis to. things change in comics and sadly ds isnt half of what he used to be.
What, only three times? Why throw away a characters many great feats, based on some low showings?
the losses to superman counts. its thatsimple. call it pis in ur own mind or however u want to deny it. its just tha superman has caught up to ds. hes not his equal yet still in my eyes but he has prove he is not ds's bithc like he used to be. actually until ds avenges ghis losses he is kinds supes bithc.
Originally posted by Evil_Ashnot all fights go down exactly the same. quit denying superman hasnt beaten his ass. he fought for his friend and was stronger that day as staed in the comic. im afraid things have changes since this comic. ds needed to avenge his self admitted humiliating loss.
And Apokolips Now isn't even close to how any Darkseid/Superman fights are depicted....