Originally posted by Endless Mikeever since supes tied him. supes has been able to defeat him since then. its like superman leanred how to better able to fight ds and through time has figured out how to beat him now. he has started a win streak against ds. so until things change supes has been winning lately in this rivalry.
No, he tied against Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112Shut up Quan, your annoying as hell. Raker didn't beat him, Ds was holding back and I already showed that scan where he stated so.
i could say the same in the raker fight. actually raker beat ds ass with that logic. ds was down and held in check by the mother of all shovels. 😉
Originally posted by starkingdont tell me to shut up. quit with the threats. please. i have asked u nicely. make ur points and leave out ur insults. going with ur logic on unfinished fights. if we give ds the win over supes there we must give the win to raker. lets face it ds did nothing but get his ass saved. poor ds.
Shut up Quan, your annoying as hell. Raker didn't beat him, Ds was holding back and I already showed that scan where he stated so.
Originally posted by Endless MikeWell the funniest thing about that fight is, the Oe knocked Supes away twice in the same story. And for some reason when he used it on him head on, it he just withstood it. What the hell was wrong with Owaw?
Compared to what Darkseid fanboys say he should do, which is beat him with one shot.
Originally posted by starkingwell, i dont know but it just shows how superman doesnt get beat like he used to get beat back int he day.
Well the funniest thing about that fight is, the Oe knocked Supes away twice in the same story. And for some reason when he used it on him head on, it he just withstood it. What the hell was wrong with Owaw?
Originally posted by quanchi112But your repeating shit I've already told you about, and it's VERY annoying. It's like you ignore every point I make. You can't compare those two instances, because Ds was not only holding back on Raker, but he whooped his ass earlier on in the story. Now quit bringing that up, you stole that argument from Tyrant/Jebus and unlike him, your twisting up the facts.
dont tell me to shut up. quit with the threats. please. i have asked u nicely. make ur points and leave out ur insults. going with ur logic on unfinished fights. if we give ds the win over supes there we must give the win to raker. lets face it ds did nothing but get his ass saved. poor ds.
The ONLY reasons why Darkseid didn't waste Superman during OWAW was two-fold. 1. He expended alot of power using the OE to boost Superman so that Supes could take down Imperiex. 2. He needed Superman at the time.
And yes, Darkseid CAN one-shot Superman. Unless you believe the OE works on everyone else, takes out guys stronger than Superman (including Validus, Infinity Man, etc), but for some reason Superman is either unaffected (Bullshit since he's gotten burned being near the OE blasts) or he can stop it with heat-vision. 👇
Originally posted by TricksterPriestPlus he teleported him with the Oe, which is the same thing as the wipeout feature(seeing the Omega effect works by teleporting one into oblivion).
The ONLY reasons why Darkseid didn't waste Superman during OWAW was two-fold. 1. He expended alot of power using the OE to boost Superman so that Supes could take down Imperiex. 2. He needed Superman at the time.And yes, Darkseid CAN one-shot Superman. Unless you believe the OE works on everyone else, takes out guys stronger than Superman (including Validus, Infinity Man, etc), but for some reason Superman is either unaffected (Bullshit since he's gotten burned being near the OE blasts) or he can stop it with heat-vision. 👇
Originally posted by TricksterPriesthe can one shot him if his omega effect actually hits the target. it hasnt been hitting superman as of late. superman has aoided it before and im sure will avoid it in the future. im sure superman is going to beat ds down again before all is said and done.
The ONLY reasons why Darkseid didn't waste Superman during OWAW was two-fold. 1. He expended alot of power using the OE to boost Superman so that Supes could take down Imperiex. 2. He needed Superman at the time.And yes, Darkseid CAN one-shot Superman. Unless you believe the OE works on everyone else, takes out guys stronger than Superman (including Validus, Infinity Man, etc), but for some reason Superman is either unaffected (Bullshit since he's gotten burned being near the OE blasts) or he can stop it with heat-vision. 👇
Originally posted by quanchi112But it worked on Superman, Martian Manhunter, Lobo, Infinity man, and the Cyborg. So we just throw out the majority of a character's history, in favor of some bullshit showings?
he can one shot him if his omega effect actually hits the target. it hasnt been hitting superman as of late. superman has aoided it before and im sure will avoid it in the future. im sure superman is going to beat ds down again before all is said and done.
Originally posted by starkinghere is where ur biased opinion shows up. no we count all the feats. superman has shown he can get around the oe now whereas before he really couldnt. quit denying reality. it happened,its canon.
But it worked on Superman, Martian Manhunter, Lobo, Infinity man, and the Cyborg. So we just throw out the majority of a character's history, in favor of some bullshit showings?
Originally posted by quanchi112We don't count all feats, if we did the Silver Surfer would be a Dracula level being. 🙄 And your taking other people's arguments again, Panthergod said that shit first and we don't know if it's true. Have you ever thought of the possibility, that Dc is dumbing down Ds for certain stories, rather than Supes getting stronger?
here is where ur biased opinion shows up. no we count all the feats. superman has shown he can get around the oe now whereas before he really couldnt. quit denying reality. it happened,its canon.
Originally posted by starkingno its simple. ds just lost. dont look into this more than u should. ds lost while superman won. how many times has dracula beaten silver surfer. i bet just once, superman has pulled off a strong of victories.
We don't count all feats, if we did the Silver Surfer would be a Dracula level being. 🙄 And your taking other people's arguments again, Panthergod said that shit first and we don't know if it's true. Have you ever thought of the possibility, that Dc is dumbing down Ds for certain stories, rather than Supes getting stronger?