The Domus Publica

Started by Spartan ll5 pages

Originally posted by Faunus
If it matters to you so much, look it up yourself, and stop bitching about it.
I don't have to, I'm not the one who made the claim, remember?

Originally posted by Spartan ll
No, but you made it sound like we were the only ones in a half-assed effort still evade the point, did you not? I wouldn't put you on Dipsit's level, but compared to the others, you were alittle bit better. Still doesn't excuse you from the point you're still trying to evade, though.
A) The nice-guy act was well over by the time you came, believe me.

B) For the last f***ing time, I'm not evading any points. I don't need to justify my opinion on someone being a good debater. Now stop your nagging, it's getting annoying.

I don't have to, I'm not the one who made the claim, remember?

This isn't a debate you moron. Get that through your head.

Originally posted by Faunus
A) The nice-guy act was well over by the time you came, believe me.

B) For the last f***ing time, I'm not evading any points. I don't need to justify my opinion on someone being a good debater. Now stop your nagging, it's getting annoying.

This isn't a debate you moron. Get that through your head.


1. Tell me something I don't know.

2. Why? You made a claim aswell as insulted several members here in doing so, I would think that warrants some proof to back up that claim, would it not?

How am I a moron? I'm not the one here making an unsupported claim and insulting members here in doing so and claiming that I don't need proof. If anything, it is YOU who is the moron here.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
1. Tell me something I don't know.
You're annoying as hell?

2. Why? You made a claim aswell as insulted several members here in doing so, I would think that warrants some proof to back up that claim, would it not?
No one older than five would get insulted by my saying I think someone else is a better debater than them. Are you sitting there crying because Escape thinks Publius is the best he's ever seen?

How am I a moron? I'm not the one here making an unsupported claim and insulting members here in doing so and claiming that I don't need proof. If anything, it is YOU who is the moron here.
Ooh, staggering comeback. And for the fourth or fifth time, I'm not debating this. Can you read that? Here, nice and big for you:

THIS-IS-NOT-A-DEBATE.

I don't expect any of you to change your views on who's the shit at KMC on my account. Now stop being a nuisance and back off.

Jesus, people, I made a thread about Publius to celebrate his writing ability and debating skills, not a platform where you can gloat about your own.

Now, as for my personal opinion, IKC is a great debater. I don't like his methods, but I can't complain since I have indulged myself with similar attacks. That said, I've made my amends and I've made apologies to the people I've bashed.

But to say IKC's arguments are "spotless" is ridiculous. He argued that Kun would take NJO Luke and DE Sidious at the same time without pushing himself too hard.

And now we know that it's quite the reverse. Sidious would take Kun, and so would Luke. No one has a perfect record here of debating - not Janus, not Illustrious, not Nai, not Advent, not Faunus, and sure as hell not myself.

Originally posted by Faunus
LMAo

This is pathetic. Are you guys looking at what you do now? Advent, Escape, all of you but LS really. You relentlessly bash anyone who goes against common standards here - I could find things right now if I was so inclined. So before you go out on a tangent and insult "my friends" for the way KMC used to be, which was way more fun, take a look at how things are here. After a month of noobs one tends to lose his patience, and that's common to everyone.

Unfortunately true statement.

Originally posted by Faunus
You're annoying as hell?
Already knew that.

No one older than five would get insulted by my saying I think someone else is a better debater than them. Are you sitting there crying because Escape thinks Publius is the best he's ever seen?
So says you, though I would think anyone here would be insulted by saying someone as fanboyishly dillusional as IKC is better than them. The again, you've already shown us that your word can't be taken for granted. Like I said before, this isn't about me, stop trying to change the subject.

Ooh, staggering comeback. And for the fourth or fifth time, I'm not debating this. Can you read that? Here, nice and big for you:
Then next time don't make a claim you can't or aren't willing to support without giving us some sort of proof before you go on a 3 post tirade saying A is better than B.

[B]I don't expect any of you to change your views on who's the shit at KMC on my account. Now stop being a nuisance and back off.
Good, because quite frankly, I could care less who you think is 'the shit' here. Then stop posting claims that you can't back up. 🙄 ANd last time I checked, most of your posts in this thread were of you DEBATING with me on IKCs skill, were they not?

This is ruining the whole point of this thread. And Escape, I want those damn stories.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
This is ruining the whole point of this thread. And Escape, I want those damn stories.

He doesn't have them up on the site! 😠

He's re-editing the entire things, but if I can get ahold of them, I will.

Whatever. I'm done anyways. I thought this thread was all done by page 2 anyways....

I don't need to get in an agrument with that guy to know he doesn't have a girlfriend and probably has to pay for sex.... if he even has sex at all.

I win in the end.

Believe it or not, a lot of chicks actually dig nerds compared to idiots and jocks.

IKC was a hell of a debater, Faunus is fully correct....a bit flawed in places, but damn fine at arguing.

Not sure about that. His argument about Palpatine is infallible. I'd love for someone to refute it.

So would I. It would involve some heavy checking of his sources, seeing as the bulk of them are RPG sourcebooks. I know sourcebooks background material is technically C-canon, but the sources themselves seem a bit flimsy. A stance made up by RPG sourcebook excerpts doesn't strike me as being particularly broad-spectrum and convincing.

I'd normally be inclined to answer him point for point but I don't have the time to doublecheck his sources at the moment. Let me see what I can come up with Monday-ish.

That and I really don't take your words for anything since you yourself were once an 'Ancient Sith PWNS all' fanboy here before Ush made you all leave.

This is really funny since a) you insist on him proving his opinion and b) Ush didn't make anyone leave; we left because quite frankly the matches died up here. KMC SW versus is pretty much a rehash.

As far as arguments of this sort go, C-canon is pretty much the only way to to put it....Exar Kun and the Ancients' -especially the Ancients- have heavy background themselves in similar sources...

That said, this isn't exactly a wide debate topic by Publius, he was just answering a few questions.

True, though I think that there ought to be further hierarchies within the respective canon levels. For example, G-canon incorporates the movies and novelizations, but Chee clearly states that the movies are top prioritiy. Likewise, when two pieces of C-canon conflict, which is superior? Should it be determined by which was there first? The type of media it is presented? Or its depiction in other official material like the NEC?

I doubt Lucasarts and Lucasfilm is ever going to lose sleep over such things, but since this is what we do I think it's an important step to take, even if only for the sake of our own debates.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
[B]True, though I think that there ought to be further hierarchies within the respective canon levels. For example, G-canon incorporates the movies and novelizations, but Chee clearly states that the movies are top prioritiy. Likewise, when two pieces of C-canon conflict, which is superior? Should it be determined by which was there first? The type of media it is presented? Or its depiction in other official material like the NEC?

Well, there are some levels to this:
Some sources-namely the newer ones- can take precedence over the older ones. As for the 'more official' thing in here, there are sources that are less accurate without the 'God's Eye View' things like the NEC and Visual Guides offer.

Basically, it's on a case-by-case basis

So then let's make an example-

What is a more accurate representation of the era: TOTJ comics or KOTOR?

As it stands now, probably KOTOR, given the support from the KOTOR comics

So to what extension does this retconning affect the comics themselves?