Umbrella versus Dante

Started by Charlotte DeBel5 pages

Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
"The T-Virus is built like any other virus. It is a protein crystal with an RNA core. As the crystal makes contact with a cell's membrane, it destroys it and inserts its RNA into the cell. The cell absorbs the viral genome into its own DNA, which takes over the cell's functions. The cell begins to produce offspring of the original virus. The new viruses are then released from the host cell and infect the neighboring cells, which starts the process all over again."

And that proves what exactly? That's merely an describtion from a friggin' manual.

And if this virus acts JUST like any other virus (friggin' flu virus for god's sake) there's nothing SUPERHUMAN Dante's immune system can't deal with. It would be just as easy for it as fighting off common influenza. The mere difference between it and influenza is that normal human's immune system isn't powerful enough to completely fight it off...which can't be said about Dante's.

He has great healing factor and his DNA is a bit different from human's one...maybe not too much but since T-virus acts in the same way as influenza...Dante's superhuman HF simpkly can stop\block further process of infecting the cells...his HF might be better that Wolverine's, that's not a fanboy statement. Also I doubt all the hell creatures wash their claws with a soap so Dante's HF "knows" how to fight off infections.
ANY virus acts on cellular level, there's nothing special or odd about it.

I gave Dante the nod of being unaffected by the viruses because of his demi-human nature.

Kind of like Hercules and the way he is immune to diseases because of his godly nature etc.

Not really though. If you go back to the original stories (as opposed to the televised Hercules programmes), his wife and children died because Hera sent a fit of madness on him — he slew his own family.

...From a full-fledged god. How does that equate to the T/G/Whetever virus? She made him mad...that's not a virus.

And I was talking about Marvel and the way it lists gods as immune to human diseases

There's a character named Umbrella?

*Smacks*

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Originally posted by Guilty Gear
There's a character named Umbrella?

Wow 😐

😆😂🤣😱💃

Didn't bother to read the first post. I just assumed it was a character.

Dante is a)demi-demon; b)has superhuman healing factor and that means superhumanly effective immune system. His metabolism is superhuman- he's in top shape despite his addiction to pizza and taking long naps. He doesn't trains his ass off... but his human body is perfect, not fat and ugly. So it's safe to assume that semi-demonic metabolism is a bit different from normal human's.
And the way T-virus infects human body isn't different from the way common flu infects human body. ANY virus infects us on DNA level...

And if you ask me for proofs that Dante can't be infected by flu or any other infection caused by viruses...well, I very much doubt that all the hell creatures he hunts down wash their claws and teeth on regular basis.
Having superhuman HF and not having superhuman immune system is kind of weird and a stretch Plastic Man can't even dream of.

Rascaduanok, I've heard your strange ideas that we should judge characters based on gameplay (even when game is played by the lamest player on Easy Automatic) and forget the cutscenes. Well, in gameplay Hulk can be killed by simple soldier with simple handgun if the player is a noob.
And you have Dante in your sig...what a f*cking shame.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Dante is a)demi-demon; b)has superhuman healing factor and that means superhumanly effective immune system. His metabolism is superhuman- he's in top shape despite his addiction to pizza and taking long naps. He doesn't trains his ass off... but his human body is perfect, not fat and ugly. So it's safe to assume that semi-demonic metabolism is a bit different from normal human's.
And the way T-virus infects human body isn't different from the way common flu infects human body. ANY virus infects us on DNA level...

And if you ask me for proofs that Dante can't be infected by flu or any other infection caused by viruses...well, I very much doubt that all the hell creatures he hunts down wash their claws and teeth on regular basis.
Having superhuman HF and not having superhuman immune system is kind of weird and a stretch Plastic Man can't even dream of.

Rascaduanok, I've heard your strange ideas that we should judge characters based on gameplay (even when game is played by the lamest player on Easy Automatic) and forget the cutscenes. Well, in gameplay Hulk can be killed by simple soldier with simple handgun if the player is a noob.
And you have Dante in your sig...what a f*cking shame.


I love this post.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Dante is a)demi-demon; b)has superhuman healing factor and that means superhumanly effective immune system. His metabolism is superhuman- he's in top shape despite his addiction to pizza and taking long naps. He doesn't trains his ass off... but his human body is perfect, not fat and ugly. So it's safe to assume that semi-demonic metabolism is a bit different from normal human's.
And the way T-virus infects human body isn't different from the way common flu infects human body. ANY virus infects us on DNA level...

And if you ask me for proofs that Dante can't be infected by flu or any other infection caused by viruses...well, I very much doubt that all the hell creatures he hunts down wash their claws and teeth on regular basis.
Having superhuman HF and not having superhuman immune system is kind of weird and a stretch Plastic Man can't even dream of.

Rascaduanok, I've heard your strange ideas that we should judge characters based on gameplay (even when game is played by the lamest player on Easy Automatic) and forget the cutscenes. Well, in gameplay Hulk can be killed by simple soldier with simple handgun if the player is a noob.
And you have Dante in your sig...what a f*cking shame.

Cosigned.

I simply don't understand when someone tells stupid things about Dante, disregarding him...and still has Dante in his sig and calls himself Dante fan.
And even gameplaywise, Dante CAN be practically invulnerable...if it's Royal Guard style and you're an expert player.

But "Dante being infected by T-virus" isn't the most stupid thing about Dante at this board. It still doesn't beat Dante vs Venom or Dante vs Blade in terms of being really funny.

He just thought that gameplay should override what is seen in cutscenes, which is the exact opposite of what it should be.

I see there is a lot of arguing , so I'm going to address some things ok ?

Originally posted by grey fox
The Evil corporation has fielded all of it's nightmarish creatures, ready for the inevitable 'take over the world' scheme. Only one man stands in their way .....

Dante 😎

Location : A empty New york at night , no sewers or going inside buildings however.

Stipulations :

Dante - Full Devil trigger , it re-charges after every 25 minutes. Ebony , Ivory and Alastor only.

Umbrella - Forces consist of....
[list]
[*]1000 zombies
[*]250 Zombie dogs
[*]100 Crimson heads
[*]30 Giant spiders (strung between skyscrapers)
[*]100 Hunters
[*]50 Lickers
[*]10 Tyrants (Mr X)
[*]1 Proto Tyrant
[*]1 Nosferatu
[*]1 Queen Leech
[*]3 Nemesis (All fully equipped)
[/list]

Who wins ?

My opening post describes location and weaponry/DT stipulations.

Styles : I'll allow Dante to 'pull' a DMC4 and switch between his main three styles (Trickster/Sword-master/Gunslinger) at will. No Royal Guard or Doppleganger however. Quicksilver can only be used 3 time during the entire fight lest spammage emerge 😛

Virus : While I enjoy the thrilling arguments on both sides of this question, I'm making him immune. I'd rather Dante go down fighting then be over taken by some Upgraded flu-bug.

Waves ? : No , no 'waves of enemies' . They are located around the city at varying points and locales. However the Tyrants are in two five men (Monster ?) gangs , the Nemesi (?) are all separate.

Enemies : Proto Tyrant (Aka : Mister Snippy ) Is from RE:0 , Queen Leech is also from RE:0 (Although there IS one in RE😮#1 , I am referring to the Marcus-Leech Queen , not the subway dwelling one) , Nosferatu is from RE:CV.

A simple wiki check should provide info on all of them.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
I simply don't understand when someone tells stupid things about Dante, disregarding him...and still has Dante in his sig and calls himself Dante fan.
And even gameplaywise, Dante CAN be practically invulnerable...if it's Royal Guard style and you're an expert player.

But "Dante being infected by T-virus" isn't the most stupid thing about Dante at this board. It still doesn't beat Dante vs Venom or Dante vs Blade in terms of being really funny.

Huh, what did he say wrong?
You judge a charachter by his main feat and powers. No matter how sucky a player is, he can still press a few buttons to do some cool combo or switch a style. We judge Dante as in the END of the DMC series. So in DMC 3, we judge Dante by the bosses he's beaten and the styles he has and the weapons he has. You don't judge by how many times you died. Cutscenes can be taken in, efcourse, but Gameplay should be taken in too. There are things in DMC you could do while playing but Dante didn't perform those moves/powers in the cutscenes.

What you could do with a charachter means alot, because Dante himself CAN do it. Noobs probably can't do alot of moves or will reach a high style level, but we don't judge noobs, we judge the content of the game which good players beat. We judge the content in it once we get to the maximum of our charachter.

Again, if you can do something in gameplay then Dante can do the same exact thing.

You don't understand. I didn't say we shouldn't use gameplay AT ALL... we should use oth it and cutscenes. But sometimes I hear stupid things like "he can die in gameplay, and he sucks because of it". Gameplay should be used TOGETHER with cutscenes...not prior to them.

I don't disregard neither gameplay nor cutscenes feats. But just because character can be killed in gameplay, we shouldn't automatically disapprove the demonstration of his HF from cutscenes.