gameplay leon, claire, chris, jill, etc manage to take on tyrants. i'm sure even dmc1 gameplay dante with any decent skilled player would have no problem with 30 tyrants and 3 nemesis at once.
waves would be more fun and more of what dante's familiar with. you really seem to underestimate someone who can go to hell and take on a whole army by himself.
cutscene dante is completely invincible. i'd like to see the umbrella bows beat any of dmc's bosses.
not really, killing beowulf chained is harder than killing 20 tyrants. and he was never really taken seriously, and probably one of the weaker demons.
1 tyrant is around the size of 1 of those reeper like demons from dmc3 without being able to teleport.
besides watch the dmc anime and you'll see how bored dante really gets with fighting small fry which are already superior to tyrants. including some devil leader who was really big(and i assume powerful since he had quite a few followers with 1 saying that he can't go against his power), dante pretty much took care of him in a few seconds.
i'm not sure if it's canon but since the manga's propably canon, there's areasonable chance that it is. either way he's facing a bunch of things that can be beaten by regular humans who don't have any powers. not even humans like lady but just humans with powers normal ppl with training have
I've watched the anime...by the way, nice idea was used there when he charges his bike with his demonic energy (in games he only does it to weapons).
And the only thing making it hard for Dante is a number of enemies...but they are so easy to take that he would be pretty bored after cleaning this.
And all that stuff has been beaten by normal humans with pretty much normal weapons...
Originally posted by grey fox
I see there is a lot of arguing , so I'm going to address some things ok ?My opening post describes location and weaponry/DT stipulations.
Styles : I'll allow Dante to 'pull' a DMC4 and switch between his main three styles (Trickster/Sword-master/Gunslinger) at will. No Royal Guard or Doppleganger however. Quicksilver can only be used [b]3
time during the entire fight lest spammage emerge 😛Virus : While I enjoy the thrilling arguments on both sides of this question, I'm making him immune. I'd rather Dante go down fighting then be over taken by some Upgraded flu-bug.
Waves ? : No , no 'waves of enemies' . They are located around the city at varying points and locales. However the Tyrants are in two five men (Monster ?) gangs , the Nemesi (?) are all separate.
Enemies : Proto Tyrant (Aka : Mister Snippy ) Is from RE:0 , Queen Leech is also from RE:0 (Although there IS one in RE😮#1 , I am referring to the Marcus-Leech Queen , not the subway dwelling one) , Nosferatu is from RE:CV.
A simple wiki check should provide info on all of them. [/B]
I thought quicksilver lasts for however long you choose to leave it on?
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelWhich makes it a maximum of 10 seconds of continuous use.
normally it's limited by DT gauge, like Doppelganger.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelExactly! Expert player you silly tool, I don’t judge gameplay based on a stupid noob playing! Gameplay–wise, if you have skills, Dante moves faster than any other character in the game, including Vergil. And in the hands of an expert player (try some of the tournament videos over at Devil’s Lair) can fulfil entire missions in ANY style while taking no damage whatsoever (unlike the opening cutscene, or when Lady shoots him twice in the head) — and consistently SS–ranking each mission.
I simply don't understand when someone tells stupid things about Dante, disregarding him...and still has Dante in his sig and calls himself Dante fan.
And even gameplaywise, Dante CAN be practically invulnerable...if it's Royal Guard style and you're an expert player.
That might be just my bad mood... you were denying Dante's feat shown in cutscene with Alastor coming through his heart. And those bullets were nothing to him...he didn't notice them and continued talking.
There were just some sayings"Dante can die in gameplay, and that means he has no regeneration ability (which was demonstrated in cutscenes and not once; gameplaywise some alternate costumes also increase your regeneration ability)"(even though expert player can take no damage in gameplay), "Dante is slow gameplaywise" and other shit.
Hence why I replied fairly nastily too: I didn’t like you casting aspersions on my appreciation for Dante! I think the best mix consists of cutscenes/FMV AND gameplay, but only in the hands of experts. Yes, in cutscenes he seems pretty immortal, but not in gameplay.
HOWEVER, in gameplay (in the hands of experts, why the hell would you brings n00bs into this?), he can complete all missions while taking no hits whatsoever. Forget damage, he doesn’t even get HIT! Yet he gets hit a fair bit in FMVs and cutscenes! You can pwn Vergil in the first fight against him, and yet the FMV still has Dante LOSE. How does that square with gameplay where he can molest Vergil to death and not take even a lick of damage?
At any rate, we’ve gone offtopic here, and should most likely reserve such a debate for a ‘Cutscenes vs Gameplay’ topic on this very forum itself! 😄
I like your dedication to Dante, by the way, but the fact you dismiss gameplay suggests to me you’ve never appreciated experts playing DMC… A sad state of affairs 🙁.
I DON'T DISMISS GAMEPLAY. WHERE DID I WRITE IT? I'M FOR FAIR MIXING WITHOUT ANY DISMISSING!!!
And Dante lost his fight with Vergil DUE TO THE PLOT REQUIREMENTS (that was needed to "unlock Dante's devil legacy" and that's all). That was their first fight and he didn't go all out (Vergil was his brother) neither he expected Vergil attempting to kill him.
When Dante gets serious (in all other fights against his brother both as Vergil and as Nelo ANgelo), Vergil stands no chance. There was only one loss and it was due to plot devise.
Wait...gameplay doesn't contradicts storyline, it shouldn't contradict it at all. The first fight with Vergil (even if you're the most expert player in the world) storylinevise shows that Dante was good enough to stand against his brother for THAT amouth of time- he lacked real motivation in the fight).
In the fight with Lady...well, in the opening scene he ALLOWS her to shot him in the head twice and continues speaking as if it's nothing. He doesn't even bother to dodge/Just Guard etc because there were NO harm to him caused by those bullets (and if he dodged, Lady wouldn't have got psychological effect she got). Rockets? He surfs on it....
It should be Gameplay+Cutscenes making the game storyline, not Gameplay vs Cutscenes or any stupid things like that...they are parts of the game . I've sren those videos of expert players and it was fine...I'm quite adept at playing with Royal Guard style myself and it's really great.
Ok then…
…So why do people have a go at me for bringing gameplay into discussions? In some, where I’ve NOT made it a gameplay VS cutscene discussion, I’ve still had sarcastic scorn poured on me — like in the Taki vs Ayane thread. I simply mentioned some of Taki’s excellent moves and psychologically superior cancels and had people have a go at me for daring to mention gameplay!
You know what? Forget it. Fuck all y’all.
Re: Ok then…
Originally posted by Rascaduanoklol
…So why do people have a go at me for bringing gameplay into discussions? In some, where I’ve NOT made it a gameplay VS cutscene discussion, I’ve still had sarcastic scorn poured on me — like in the Taki vs Ayane thread. I simply mentioned some of Taki’s excellent moves and psychologically superior cancels and had people have a go at me for daring to mention gameplay!You know what? Forget it. Fuck all y’all.