Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you cannot prove that there is no unicorn why do you deny its existence?If you cannot prove that there is no Santa Clause why do you deny his existence?
If you cannot prove that there is no Easter Bunny why do you deny his existence?
If you cannot prove that there is no boogy man why do you deny his existence?
The devil is not included in your fairytale lineup. Here is the acid test: ask yourself did Jesus mention by name any of the examples in your list? No? So then they do not exist right? Right. Now ask yourself this: did Jesus mention the devil by name? Yes? So then the devil must exist because Jesus is Truth (according to God's Book), and the Truth is in Jesus (based on God's Book), and since Jesus is Truth then that presupposes that He cannot lie. Since Jesus cannot lie then the only alternative is that He must speak Truth. So then Jesus has truly stated that the devil does in fact exist.
Refute my case logically presuming that the Bible is God's Book (if you can).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The devil is not included in your fairytale lineup.
Leprechauns where not listed also. That doesn’t mean they exist.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Here is the acid test: ask yourself did Jesus mention by name any of the examples in your list? No?
That is correct; Jesus did not mention my list. It is most likely because he did not know about them.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So then they do not exist right? Right.
To Jesus they did not exist. He did not know about them.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Now ask yourself this: did Jesus mention the devil by name? Yes? So then the devil must exist because Jesus is Truth (according to God's Book), and the Truth is in Jesus (based on God's Book), and since Jesus is Truth then that presupposes that He cannot lie.
Of course, Jesus could lie. Jesus was just a human. The idea that Jesus is truth is silly and illogical.
Jesus believed in the devil, but that doesn’t mean that the Devil is real. It only means that Jesus believed in the Devil.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Since Jesus cannot lie then the only alternative is that He must speak Truth. So then Jesus has truly stated that the devil does in fact exist.
One man’s delusion does not legitimize another man’s delusion. Also, Jesus only said what he believed. That does not mean that he was right about everything he said.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Refute my case [b]logically presuming that the Bible is God's Book (if you can). [/B]
I did.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Leprechauns where not listed also. That doesn’t mean they exist.That is correct; Jesus did not mention my list. It is most likely because he did not know about them.
To Jesus they did not exist. He did not know about them.
Of course, Jesus could lie. Jesus was just a human. The idea that Jesus is truth is silly and illogical.
Jesus believed in the devil, but that doesn’t mean that the Devil is real. It only means that Jesus believed in the Devil.
One man’s delusion does not legitimize another man’s delusion. Also, Jesus only said what he believed. That does not mean that he was right about everything he said.
I did.
You have failed to logically refute my case presuming that the Bible is God's Book.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Tell that to God who created him. The devil was once a beautiful, anointed cherub before he became lifted up in pride, sinned, and fell like lightning from Heaven. He was called [B]Lucifer, but after he sinned he became known as satan. Jesus acknowledges the existence of the devil:John 8:44
44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.So who is right, you Shelbert Lemon or Jesus? Jesus stated that He is Truth (i.e. Personified).
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.Question: are you the Truth Shelbert Lemon? (Truth is a Person.) Moreover, God's Book states that the Truth is in Jesus.
Ephesians 4:21
21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the Truth is in Jesus:Is the Truth in you Shelbert Lemon? Furthermore, in your denial of satan's existence are you suggesting that Jesus is somehow in the dark about the devil? Are you questioning Jesus' omniscience (i.e. that He knows all things)? [/B]
Originally posted by Devil King
It's only people too stupid and full of themselves who create thread titles that end in a question mark when all they intend to do is regurgitate the same mindless rhetoric in our faces.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have failed to logically refute my case presuming that the Bible is God's Book.
I didn't know I was doing that. 🙄
Of course the bible is God's book, but so is a Playboy book or any other book written by humans. Sense we are part of God, then all we do is part of God. However, you are talking about a small limited god, and I am talking about the Mystic Law.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I didn't know I was doing that. 🙄Of course the bible is God's book, but so is a Playboy book or any other book written by humans. Sense we are part of God, then all we do is part of God. However, you are talking about a small limited god, and I am talking about the Mystic Law.
Yes you did that (and you do it regularly). God' Book is given by inspiration of God unlike any other book. No, you are not a part of God if you do not have Jesus in your heart. No I am talking about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is a Big God.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
He is a Big God.
Really? You wouldn't know it by the way you say he acts.
okay. This is just getting stupid. Do we even have moderators here, anymore? Or better yet, do we have any mods here who don't have issues with so many forum members that they won't allow this guy to keep spewing shit like this thread? I mean, am I the only one who thinks that certain mods do nothing about this guy because they get off on how irritating the rest of us find him?
Originally posted by Devil King
Really? You wouldn't know it by the way you say he acts.okay. This is just getting stupid. Do we even have moderators here, anymore? Or better yet, do we have any mods here who don't have issues with so many forum members that they [b]won't
allow this guy to keep spewing shit like this thread? I mean, am I the only one who thinks that certain mods do nothing about this guy because they get off on how irritating the rest of us find him? [/B]
Well he isn't doing anything wrong... cept creating so many stupid ass threads.
He is taking the piss, trying to annoy or be funny or whatever, just laugh, ignore, whatever.
the Devil and God are what people want them to be in their minds
ofcourse they are not beings, you dont need proof to prove something is not real, the person saying it is real needs the proof, if they do not have undeniable proof, then they are wrong and should not debate seriously unless its with interest not trying to push it onto people that its real
in Christianity God is an almighty being and jesus is his son, the Devil is a fallen angel who is supposedly wicked and wants the worst for people
in Satanism however, Satan is still an angel, not a devil and the name Satan is false created for him by the jewish people, his real name is apparently Ea and he is the creator of human beings and God is merely a being who is wanting to rule us
many religions dont even have a God or Devil, so they dont excist for them
i dont believe in any of them
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes you did that (and you do it regularly). God' Book is given by inspiration of God unlike any other book. No, you are not a part of God if you do not have Jesus in your heart. No I am talking about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is a Big God.
"My god is bigger then your god" has lead to how many deaths in the past? The truth is, a god that needs to be bigger, is very small.
Originally posted by Burning thought
the Devil and God are what people want them to be in their mindsofcourse they are not beings, you dont need proof to prove something is not real, the person saying it is real needs the proof, if they do not have undeniable proof, then they are wrong and should not debate seriously unless its with interest not trying to push it onto people that its real
in Christianity God is an almighty being and jesus is his son, the Devil is a fallen angel who is supposedly wicked and wants the worst for people
in Satanism however, Satan is still an angel, not a devil and the name Satan is false created for him by the jewish people, his real name is apparently Ea and he is the creator of human beings and God is merely a being who is wanting to rule us
many religions dont even have a God or Devil, so they dont excist for them
i dont believe in any of them
So because you do not belive in the existence of God He is supposed to somehow cease to exist?