Archangel vs Spider Man

Started by jinzin3 pages
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I hardly think a couple lines constitutes a "wankfest." The reaction was a bit much, imo. But I realize that maybe you were upset at someone, ya know, disagreeing with you.

It really isn't that someone's disagreeing with me. I could care less if someone has a difference of opinion with me, but if their reasoning behind why is complete nonsense am I not entitled as a debator of this forum to call them out on it?

To say that Spiderman is going to unload two full cartridges of webbing on Archy is out of character for Spiderman to a massive degree.

To insinuate that Spiderman is going to just up and punch Archangel out when Archy has stood up to Caliban punches after fighting Sabretooth, and has the hand to hand skill to go rounds with Psylocke is just ignoring Warren's abilities and attributes completely.

To ignore the capabilities of the wings as a whole while dictating the effectiveness of the webbing and ALSO ignoring the limits of said webbing is just either willful ignorance or outright lying. 😬

It may have been two lines but he did all that in one post. So I call wankfest. punk

Originally posted by -K-M-
He wasn't hallucinating Archangel, he was real but S-M just thought he was fighting someone else (think it was the Vulture).
I'll have to go back to that issue and look but I'm pretty positive that Spiderman was either hillucinating the fight completely or that if those heroes were actually involved they were under Godess' spell from the previous issue..

Originally posted by jinzin
It really isn't that someone's disagreeing with me. I could care less if someone has a difference of opinion with me, but if their reasoning behind why is complete nonsense am I not entitled as a debator of this forum to call them out on it?

To say that Spiderman is going to unload two full cartridges of webbing on Archy is out of character for Spiderman to a massive degree.

To insinuate that Spiderman is going to just up and punch Archangel out when Archy has stood up to Caliban punches after fighting Sabretooth, and has the hand to hand skill to go rounds with Psylocke is just ignoring Warren's abilities and attributes completely.

To ignore the capabilities of the wings as a whole while dictating the effectiveness of the webbing and ALSO ignoring the limits of said webbing is just either willful ignorance or outright lying. 😬

It may have been two lines but he did all that in one post. So I call wankfest. punk

i call ya an L7 for getting so uppity about this.even if its not a logical thing to do for SM(& its not lol),calling it a wank fest when it clearly wasnt is stupid.but back to the topic,warren takes this

Originally posted by Nestical
i call ya an L7 for getting so uppity about this.even if its not a logical thing to do for SM(& its not lol),calling it a wank fest when it clearly wasnt is stupid.but back to the topic,warren takes this

You guys are getting more uppity than I did making a deal of it. It was one throwaway statement. The argument was the important part.

i wasnt uppity at all,just stating fact.also im taking it that this is regular spidey & not another version?if so it makes a difference

That's not a fact, that's a speculated observation

you're still going?lol.looks like you wanna derail the thread huh?you call a few lines,even if they are unfounded,a wankfest?yeah that makes sense.lets agree to disagree.now everyones happy.my vote is still for warren but spidey does always find a way to come out on top,most of the time anyways

Originally posted by jinzin
It really isn't that someone's disagreeing with me. I could care less if someone has a difference of opinion with me, but if their reasoning behind why is complete nonsense am I not entitled as a debator of this forum to call them out on it?

To say that Spiderman is going to unload two full cartridges of webbing on Archy is out of character for Spiderman to a massive degree.

To insinuate that Spiderman is going to just up and punch Archangel out when Archy has stood up to Caliban punches after fighting Sabretooth, and has the hand to hand skill to go rounds with Psylocke is just ignoring Warren's abilities and attributes completely.

To ignore the capabilities of the wings as a whole while dictating the effectiveness of the webbing and ALSO ignoring the limits of said webbing is just either willful ignorance or outright lying. 😬

It may have been two lines but he did all that in one post. So I call wankfest. punk

I'm not questioning your assessment of the web thing. Like I said, I've never read stuff with Arch in it. So all of that is really a moot point as it concerns my statement.

A "well heck, there goes the thread" after one statement was uncalled for. Spider-Man's webs often play a part in fights, so even if his suggestion was embellished (we do have to assume peak, so I'm not sure that it was) it wasn't completely irrelevant.

I also realize it was a throwaway statement, as you put it, so I don't mean to be harsh about it. I just wanted to recognize it for what it was: an overreaction.

Yeah I suppose it looks that way, but I really didn't have has much invested into that statement as I think you're inpterpretating. Fair enough though.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'll have to go back to that issue and look but I'm pretty positive that Spiderman was either hillucinating the fight completely or that if those heroes were actually involved they were under Godess' spell from the previous issue..

Naaaaa...He was fighting various real heroes as the Goddess sent them to capture Spider-Man, but Moondragon was messing with Spider-Man's mind. So when Spider-Man was fighting Multiple Man he saw multiple copies of Carnage instead of Madrox, etc, etc.

So...where does this take place? New York City?

In this fight, location is extremely important.

Warren for the win 8/10

Razor sharp wings, areal advantage, paralytic self regenerating flidgets that also discharge small neural energy disruption... Warren being superhuman across the board, healing factor with superhuman eyesight, techno organic metal claws...

spidey is going to be on the defensive the whole time with web shields and agility... i just dont see it keeping him save for long with flidgets all over the place and ground eventually he is going to get hurt by the ones just laying around not including the ones that are also being thrown at him

I think your underestimating Spiderman here and he takes it the majority.

His flight ability is going to be key here.

like shooting a spider in a barrel with an uzi..

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I think your underestimating Spiderman here and he takes it the majority.

Nah he gets shredded.

Originally posted by jinzin
Nah he gets shredded.

I disagree, it depends on the terrain. In any city setting I give Spiderman the large majority.

also dont think spiderman utilizing a web caccoon would be smart or effective, however I doubt he even try that. What he would do and what i find would be effective is letting arch angle dive in on him which is a common tactic of angles and then dodging webbing his back as he passed by and whiping him into a wall. I find this to actual be a pretty likely scenerio given the right enviorment.

they're not in a city setting. 🤨

Forum defaults. He loses.

so you are relying on terrain usage ala story telling? 😑

Originally posted by King Castle
so you are relying on terrain usage ala story telling? 😑

there a big differences between what I am saying and story telling.