Archangel vs Spider Man

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archangel

Originally posted by jinzin
they're not in a city setting. 🤨

Forum defaults. He loses.


I agree in a feature less enviorment, spiderman going to be at a disadvantage, though I still don't think he helpless by any means and will certainly take his fair share of wins.

Originally posted by jinzin
Nah he gets shredded.

"Standard" Forum rules cripple Spider-man anyways it has nothing to do with "story telling" it's a big white room, so his ability to stick to things is out of the window. An equivalent would be a Wolverine thread with a magnetic ground battlefield.

Originally posted by jinzin

I disagree, I still see him getting 3 wins. I think arch angle is overrated and cis can eaisly be manipulated in order to achieve victory.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
"Standard" Forum rules cripple Spider-man anyways it has nothing to do with "story telling" it's a big white room, so his ability to stick to things is out of the window. An equivalent would be a Wolverine thread with a magnetic ground battlefield.

Though I agree with you, this comparison is not in any shape or form the equivalent.

spiderman not being able to use his sticking to walls powers equates to Wolverine being held in place helplessly by a magnet..............not even closes.

True, then let's say a HF cancelling Battlefield.

My point is Spider-mans powers work that way and that's why he operates in a city, Stan Lee himself said once that Spider-man in a place like smallville would be a waste of the character.

He uses his webbing to swing through cities with skyscrapers and crawls up walls, it has absolutely nothing to do with storytelling.

While the standard setting is a place that literally takes away one of his powers, you would have to search for a very long time to find place like this. Even normal arenas have walls etc. to stick to.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
True, then let's say a HF cancelling Battlefield.

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again how does spiderman loosing the ability to stick to walls equate to wolverine losing his healing factor............honestly man think about what your saying........

Originally posted by Parmaniac

My point is Spider-mans powers work that way and that's why he operates in a city, Stan Lee himself said once that Spider-man in a place like smallville would be a waste of the character.

He uses his webbing to swing through cities with skyscrapers and crawls up walls, it has absolutely nothing to do with storytelling.

While the standard setting is a place that literally takes away one of his powers, you would have to search for a very long time to find place like this. Even normal arenas have walls etc. to stick to.

I agree he is better opperrating in a city, just as some one like wolverine is better in woods.

agreed.

true, but people like wolverine batman amoung others get hinder by such settings as well. Spiderman not the only one.

Peter has no chance in hell.

the closest comparison to wolverine would be that Wolverine is not allowed to stealth kill his opponents who are extremely powerful in a forum fight which wolverine would try in comics 7 out of ten to avoid an @$$ kicking..

so basically spidey cant hide and wall climb swing using terrain to win..

Wolverine can't go ninja stealth do the low down creep using shadows terrain for instant stealth kill, no wall climbing for him either or tossing crap or hiding under cars.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
again how does spiderman loosing the ability to stick to walls equate to wolverine losing his healing factor............honestly man think about what your saying........
He looses one of his powers cause it relies on the surrounding. It's a disadvantage from the beginning due to the battlefield. That's something only very few characters have here, while others don't have any disadvantage at all (like Wolverine or almost all other characters). We could also say a thread with Superman and a room so small that flying isn't an option anymore he would then loose one of his abilities (flying) due to the battlefield while a character without the ability to fly wouldn't be crippled by that that creates an imbalance from teh beginning of the match cause one character can't use his full potential anymore, that's what I' saying.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
He looses one of his powers cause it relies on the surrounding. It's a disadvantage from the beginning due to the battlefield.

It may be, but it not closes to being equal to wolverine loosing his healing factor. Honestly can you really not see that?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
something only very few characters have here, while others don't have any disadvantage at all (like Wolverine or almost all other characters).

Thats not true at all. Wolverine is at disadvantage as well. He utilizes stealth constantly, as does batman amoung others. NC also has the ability for stealth and the ability to cling to walls taken away. So no there are many characters who are just as much at a disadvantages and some more so like NC.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
character can't use his full potential anymore, that's what I' saying.

I understand what your saying, but he not the only character at a disadvantage many are. Honestly the fairest setting are featureless enviorments because then is person vs person. Though i agree that hinders certain characters, but honestly it still the fairest standard setting.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It may be, but it not closes to being equal to wolverine loosing his healing factor. Honestly can you really not see that?
I agree that Wolverine loosing his HF is a bigger disadvantage that's why I tried another example with Supes.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Though i agree that hinders certain characters, but honestly it still the fairest standard setting.
In most cases yes it is, agreed.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I agree that Wolverine loosing his HF is a bigger disadvantage that's why I tried another example with Supes.

In most cases yes it is, agreed.


k cool.

setting make battles for certain characters. I think spiderman takes wolverine in a city, but a woods I go with wolverine. Think certain characters are tailor made for certain land scapes.

a winter canadian wood setting...

Wolverine howls and vanished from Spiderman into the shadows..

a pack of wolves and bears maybe even the wendigo appear to give wolverine a hand against spiderman..durverine