Pwnd! Like no tomorrow! SPOILERS

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Name [b]one Kingpin/Daredevil fight that has been THIS onesided.

Spider-Man wasn't even trying. [/B]

kind of hard considering their about evenly match.

but your right pete wasn't trying. He did more damage to the crooks he was interrogating then he did the actual kingpin. Matt left him a unconscious bag of meat in their last big fight. When you compare the actual beatings kingpin received this fight really does seem tame. I'd guess I'd be bitching less if actually manged to do some damage that wouldn't just heal within a week or two. He could have at least broken the nose of the guy that just ordered his aunt killed.

Originally posted by Validus
Thanks for shitting on this thread, Black Adam.

I love you too val.

that was good

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Name [b]one Kingpin/Daredevil fight that has been THIS onesided.

Spider-Man wasn't even trying. [/B]

Obviously he was trying 😬

He wasn't pulling any punches (as he said earlier)

But I can see what you were saying, because he wasn't putting in a full effort

Originally posted by Black Adam
kind of hard considering their about evenly match.

but your right pete wasn't trying. He did more damage to the crooks he was interrogating then he did the actual kingpin. Matt left him a unconscious bag of meat in their last big fight. When you compare the actual beatings kingpin received this fight really does seem tame. I'd guess I'd be bitching less if actually manged to do some damage that wouldn't just heal within a week or two. He could have at least broken the nose of the guy that just ordered his aunt killed.

Daredevil (although it doesn't say it anymore) is basically a Mature book, so it's not surprising that the beating DD gave Fisk was a lot more graphic.

Plus, he couldn't have been TOO injured in order for him to look like he did when he last appeared in Daredevil (which took place after this arc)

Heh, the best part was when Pete called him a Fatman.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Heh, the best part was when Pete called him a Fatman.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Don't know.

Maybe because he thought he would be facing the same insecure joke-cracking teenager he fought and defeated years ago? Kingpin was Spidey foe first. Perhaps it was just underestimation.

Why would he think that when Spiderman has more experience and hes just shoot his aunt. Illogical.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

But what does that have to do with my reply?

Im just commenting on the scans. Thats what this thread is about.

Why are you asking for answers from people who have only read the comic?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Why are you asking for answers from people who have only read the comic?

talking to me?

He should have done to him what Brian did to stewy.

kingpin's always played off the moral constraints of the heroes he faces. he probably expected to play pete for the chump in front of his boys and re-establish some street cred. illogical or not, that IS how the kingpin tends to think. it's resulted in him NOT getting his ass kicked far more often in the past than not.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Sorry DigiMark. 😉 😛

I don't think I have ever seen this kind of ownage in comic book. Both verbally and physically. I mean...Kingpin has been beaten by Daredevil before, but THIS...Daredevil seems tame in comparision.

Spidey is so badass. See it for yourself:

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Originally posted by Disappear
kingpin's always played off the moral constraints of the heroes he faces. he probably expected to play pete for the chump in front of his boys and re-establish some street cred. illogical or not, that IS how the kingpin tends to think. it's resulted in him NOT getting his ass kicked far more often in the past than not.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This goes as a big ***** smack to the faces of the fanboys and others who argue that Spiderman can't fight while mad, or that he gets beaten against people with no powers, because he just "can't fight". There's a difference from fighting and jobbing my friends and this proved that. Nice work, shame I won't be around to argue the definitive retorts I'll most likely get.

It was expected. When KP becomes enhanced and studies Spidermans style to a T then come back to us.

Lets see Wolverine match that.

Stupid fanboys. 😆

Originally posted by Alfheim
Fair enough.

It was expected. When KP becomes enhanced and studies Spidermans style to a T then come back to us.

So in every fight Cap has won I'll just say, "Give the character class 100 strength and let him master Cap's style." Sort of how Iron Man beat the shit out of Captain America doing that. Does that count?

If it was expected, then why use the shitty argument that he can't beat said people under said circumstances time and time again. And that's aimed at everyone who has used it. Spiderman whooped his ass fair and square, and without trying just like he should have. Get over it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Just the comment I was waiting for, and actually have time to answer. Of course he could do that same tactic to Cap and other street levelers even faster and even easier than he could do it to overtake Parker,

Yeah he could actually to most street levelers. The only people who I think stand a chance against a serious Spiderman are Cap, Wolverine and DD....maybe. Possibly IF but ive only read issue 1 of immortal IF, apparently hes even better. Spidermans last fight with IF didnt look good.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

and in this case he DOES know Parker.

Er Bro he hasnt studied his style.....theres a difference

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

This is exactly the kind of hating I'm talking about. You came in this thread for no reason other than to diminish the feat because you don't like it.

Do you see this bit where I said....

Originally posted by Alfheim

It was expected.

I dunno man I thought that implied that I expected KP to get his ass handed to him by Spiderman. Im not arguing against KP getting beaten, im arguing against him putting himself in that position.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

So in every fight Cap has won I'll just say, "Give the character class 100 strength and let him master Cap's style." Sort of how Iron Man beat the shit out of Captain America doing that. Does that count?

If it was expected, then why use the shitty argument that he can't beat said people under said circumstances time and time again. And that's aimed at everyone who has used it. Spiderman whooped his ass fair and square, and without trying just like he should have. Get over it.

Er because hes not enhanced. He hasnt studied his style. He doesnt have a healing factor or adamantuim bones. He doesnt have an indestructible shield. I dont even think hes top tier.

As you've seen I already admitted he would lose.....I really dont know what you're complaining about.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er Bro he hasnt [B]studied his style.....theres a difference [/B]

The reson spiderman didn't do more damage physically is because he wasn't trying to attack him physically so much as emotionally and attacking his reputation.

He did something passive agressive, leaving him alive but under such circumstances that it'll eat the guy alive mentally.

There are after all fates worse than death. Had he just killed the guy, it would have been kinder than leaving him in the state he was currently in.

The Bad:
- Fans won't realize that Pete, when angry, has ripped a new one for numerous people in his rogues gallery. This isn't an isolated occurence, and has to be taken into consideration with all of his other showings. It doesn't automatically make Fisk completely sh*t in a fight.
- Mad or not, KP deserves better. Screw you, Straczynski.

The Good:
- Cool fight, and yes it shows what Spidey can do when angry.
- I've been using the webbing-in-the-throat argument on the forums for years now, notably in a few debates about SM/Wolverine. Finally there's some on-panel evidence to back me up.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
The Bad:
- Fans won't realize that Pete, when angry, has ripped a new one for numerous people in his rogues gallery. This isn't an isolated occurence, and has to be taken into consideration with all of his other showings. It doesn't automatically make Fisk completely sh*t in a fight.
- Mad or not, KP deserves better. Screw you, Straczynski.

I dunno man you were complaining Spiderman doesnt get enough love, you said Marvel has forgotten that Spidermans been upgraded. Surely an upgraded Spiderman should kick his ass. The only thing is that KP didnt even have a plan.