Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

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Raoul Hey Yo!
Originally posted by fangirl101
Black Mary trashed Kyle Rayner and Donna Troy. She was easily pwned by Wonder Woman.

i've no problem with that, though i havent read countdown in a while, so my memory of the fight is a bit sketchy... the zoom thing, though... she didn't exactly beat him in a fist fight, she used the lasso, iirc...

i know its still a win, but i just hope nobody's taking it to mean she beat him in some kind of slugfest...

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Which is basically what I gave her too. I gave her an extra win or 2 (I said BA 6/10) because of her lasso. It really isn't all that inconceivable that she could pull out 3-4 against him.

aye, i agree...

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Raoul
i've no problem with that, though i havent read countdown in a while, so my memory of the fight is a bit sketchy... the zoom thing, though... she didn't exactly beat him in a fist fight, she used the lasso, iirc...

i know its still a win, but i just hope nobody's taking it to mean she beat him in some kind of slugfest...

She couldn't really beat him in an actual slug fest since she was blind. But she was taking his punches with the best of them. He didn't one shot her. And she was still fast enough to lasso him.

P.S. Didn't Wondy Own Captain Nazi even easier than BA did?

Raoul Hey Yo!

Originally posted by fangirl101
She couldn't really beat him in an actual slug fest since she was blind. But she was taking his punches with the best of them. He didn't one shot her. And she was still fast enough to lasso him.

P.S. Didn't Wondy Own Captain Nazi even easier than BA did?

he wasn't exactly zooming around at the time, but i do agree with the bulk of what you're saying... diana can take a hell of a beating when she needs to...

no idea...

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Raoul
he wasn't exactly zooming around at the time, but i do agree with the bulk of what you're saying... diana can take a hell of a beating when she needs to...

no idea...


Well we agree on that. If she can take a beating at the hands of Zoom, and you factor in her enormous reflex skill, which is backed up by her bracers and shields, it should be really tuff to actually take her down without some serious Superman level Speed and Strength. BA isn't as fast as superman. this I know and can prove. when the Flash needed to race to save the world, he used 4 other speedsters and superman. He called them the 5 fastest beings on the planet. Superman actually kept up pace with Jay garrick and the others. BA cannot keep up with Jay Garrick.

Raoul Hey Yo!
Originally posted by fangirl101
Well we agree on that. If she can take a beating at the hands of Zoom, and you factor in her enormous reflex skill, which is backed up by her bracers and shields, it should be really tuff to actually take her down without some serious Superman level Speed and Strength. BA isn't as fast as superman. this I know and can prove.

i'm of the opinion that neither of the marvel family's big boys is a match for supes in every category, so i'd love to see the scans if you have them...

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm of the opinion that neither of the marvel family's big boys is a match for supes in every category, so i'd love to see the scans if you have them...

Remember when Flash had to race the lil glowy guy that looked like sonic the hedge hog? He said that the five fastest beings on the planet besides himself included Superman. Superman was shown running and matching the other speedsters. Jay garrick and BA were shown running along side each other and BA couldn't keep up. His muscles began to strain. Superman is faster than the marvels. which maks sense. Since He's faster than Wondy and she and Cm get thier speed from the same god.

Raoul Hey Yo!
Originally posted by fangirl101
Remember when Flash had to race the lil glowy guy that looked like sonic the hedge hog? He said that the five fastest beings on the planet besides himself included Superman. Superman was shown running and matching the other speedsters. Jay garrick and BA were shown running along side each other and BA couldn't keep up. His muscles began to strain. Superman is faster than the marvels. which maks sense. Since He's faster than Wondy and she and Cm get thier speed from the same god.

ah, i hadn't seen that issue...

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by fangirl101
Remember when Flash had to race the lil glowy guy that looked like sonic the hedge hog? He said that the five fastest beings on the planet besides himself included Superman. Superman was shown running and matching the other speedsters. Jay garrick and BA were shown running along side each other and BA couldn't keep up. His muscles began to strain. Superman is faster than the marvels. which maks sense. Since He's faster than Wondy and she and Cm get thier speed from the same god.
What speedsters was Superman racing against, and at what speed?

As Jay was pushing himself to the limit, and when he reached lightspeed, BA was about 10 or so feet away from him.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Red Hulk
What speedsters was Superman racing against, and at what speed?

As Jay was pushing himself to the limit, and when he reached lightspeed, BA was about 10 or so feet away from him.

Jay was among the ones Superman was racing against. And They were all pushing themselves to the limit. In order to save the world they needed to give wally all of thier combined speed power. Superman was as fast as any of the other speedsters. he did not give out or get tired as Adam did. Adam couldn't keep up with jay.

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by fangirl101
Jay was among the ones Superman was racing against. And They were all pushing themselves to the limit. In order to save the world they needed to give wally all of thier combined speed power. Superman was as fast as any of the other speedsters. he did not give out or get tired as Adam did. Adam couldn't keep up with jay.
I actually think I might recall something of the sort, but I may need scans, as I think Supes was flying...

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Red Hulk
I actually think I might recall something of the sort, but I may need scans, as I think Supes was flying...
If I remember correctly, it was specific that eveyone needed to be running.

The Great Galen Restricted

BA for the overwhealming majority.

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by fangirl101
If I remember correctly, it was specific that eveyone needed to be running.
Hmm... I think it might be in the Wally respect thread... hold on.

Wait, was that the time that Superman admitted that he can't go lightspeed?

Red Hulk Dead

OK, I found it (13, and 15):

Originally posted by Rorschach
[B]Wally (while having the speed of billions of people) races the Cosmic Gamblers who use instantaneous teleportation, he also sets every radio on Earth to a certain frequency

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Needless to say, a lot of context is missing as opposed to the BA vs Jay race. Oh... and Superman was flying.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Red Hulk
OK, I found it (13, and 15):

Needless to say, a lot of context is missing as opposed to the BA vs Jay race. Oh... and Superman was flying.

Superman has still kept up with wally on foot while running. Black Adam was giving out next to Jay. remember when Wally was looking for linda?

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

this is too easy

they may have similar strength & speed stats, however durability is the deciding factor

durability-wise:

Black-Adam : essentially invulnerable (like Superman or Captain Marvel)

Wonder-woman : high durability but NOT invulnerable. she's highly resistant to blunt attacks, however a simply man-made blade or bullet can still kill her !!!

=> she's way more fragile than BA => easy win for BA

Nihilist Senior Member

ba rapes

Eel O'Brien Senior Member

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
this is too easy

they may have similar strength & speed stats, however durability is the deciding factor

durability-wise:

Black-Adam : essentially invulnerable (like Superman or Captain Marvel)

Wonder-woman : high durability but NOT invulnerable. she's highly resistant to blunt attacks, however a simply man-made [b]blade or bullet can still kill her !!!

=> she's way more fragile than BA => easy win for BA [/B]

I'm convinced...

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
this is too easy

they may have similar strength & speed stats, however durability is the deciding factor

durability-wise:

Black-Adam : essentially invulnerable (like Superman or Captain Marvel)

Wonder-woman : high durability but NOT invulnerable. she's highly resistant to blunt attacks, however a simply man-made [b]blade or bullet can still kill her !!!

=> she's way more fragile than BA => easy win for BA [/B]


That's wrong. If he is on Superman's level then he shoul dbe stalemating him or even beating him sometimes. His not(from what I know). WW is almost on par with Superman in strenght, Speed, tactics. Superman is invulnerable, but she is too. She should be stalemate BA.

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

Superman is invulnerable, but she is too.
nono. she's helpless against slashing/piercing attacks. she HAS to dodge these

technically Black Adam like Captain Marvel is everything Superman would dream of becoming, a sort of super-Superman in a way (all the powers of a kryptonian minus the weaknesses)
the only reason Superman prevails is because he's the hero. in all the Superman vs Shazam fights however, supe's opponents are always shown as being roughly at the same level as he. he only has an edge because, again, he's the hero

u know, just like Buffy always finds a way to defeat vamps/demons even when they're stronger than her 😄

durability is the key factor and WW's durability is leagues below Superman & shazam. a bullet or a sword can kill her - Supe & shazam on the other hand just shrug these off