Originally posted by Aztec123
Her feats triumphs his!! She has the strength, speed, skills, equiptment and brains to take the majority. The only thing that is debatable is durability, but Diana's recent showings suggest different. Diana 8-10
I agree Diana is far superior, the only thing Adam has going for him is his character is usually bloodlusted. Adam is not that skilled and Billy has often beat him at half-power, if Diana fought half as dirty as Adam did she would rip his nuts off. Unlike Superman Diana does not have the same weakness to magics.
Originally posted by Firestorms
she has been given a power up and now controls the lightning of the Gods. Which might mean she hits Adam with a bolt, turns him into an old manand stomps this fight 10/10
While I do like WW, using circumstantial storypoints (such as the recent one regarding the bracers and Zeus' power) is misleading -- she doesn't have ready control over it; it's part of a story arc, and not a general ability normally attributed to her; and as Pr said -- their power sources/origins are not directly related -- that is a misnomer on many people's parts.
In anycase...
People who believe BA would readily defeat WW are either being flip or (as seems the norm for this forum) don't know the character of WW very well at all, nor how she has actually changed over the past 10-20 years. Ordinary protectiles (normal arrows, ordinary gunfire, mortal-level slashing/piercing weopons) no longer cause her any major issues. (Exceptional force behind exceptional material via piercing/slashing attacks is still a weaker point for her, though still not to the degree many people think, as demonstrated over the past 3 years of her reboot).
Diana and BA (just like with CM) have comparable strength, speed, and general resistance to blunt harm (punches, et al). He has the advantage of superior recuperative abilities and stamina (though that won't be a major aspect of a battle like this); Diana has superior combat skills and comes armed with weopons that can overcome or harm BA (yes, fanbois -- her using her Bracers in melee, or hurling her tiara, can cause some serious damage even to BA -- she has harmed/killed gods and similiarly powerful beings with them before).
Is it an easy fight? Not at all. Does BA have a reasonable chance of beating WW? Certainly. But they are far more equal, physically, in a normal battle than many people realize, and his advantages don't play better against her than they would to others (as Diana has repeatedly shown, both in her series and in others, that she can fight multiple battles, over a course of days without sleep, if necessary, and still keep going). If it was a contest of "who can hold their side of the mountain up longer", BA would win, no question, as both he and CM could go on for days and days longer than WW. That advantage doesn't matter here. And as far as his natural cruelty giving him an edge that CM doesnt have in terms of WW, that is misleading as well; Diana has fought numerous villians who are as (and in some cases much more) cruel than BA, and she knows when to return the favor in kind. He wouldn't hesitate to kill her -- she knows this, and won't bat an eyelash at having to use lethal force in kind.
WW wins 6/10 fights vs. BA. If she for some reason isn't able to eventually lasso him (which doesn't merely force others to speak/understand the truth, but also renders them unable to fight, with this ability having affected gods in the past...) then she'll be forced to kill him with her bracers/tiara, backed by her comparable strength/speed and better skills, as she wouldn't be able to properly subdue him otherwise, as he is too powerful for her to simply subdue, under non-surprise circumstances. She will be very battered and bruised for her efforts, however.
BA wins 4/10, due to his power and edge of cruelty, as well as his knowing that against an opponent like WW, he will have to be extra crafty and seek to separate her from her lasso/tiara, if possible. If he can do that, and get the drop on her with an undefended blow, he opens the window of possibly being able to beat her to death (something she, though powerful, can't readily do in return).
That's the real assessment of the two characters. Anything else is hyperbole (both for BA, and for WW, for those who think she would have better odds than that...)
(And I don't care if this post is long; short posts in other threads seem to lead to misunderstandings too readily, and don't actually elaborate on *why* "x" would occur...)
Originally posted by tideoftimeyes she is quite a bit faster than he in terms of running. And her stamina for such is greater than his. He's gotten tired while running side by side with Jay Garrick. While She hasn't even broken a sweat next to Jesse Quick.
She's not faster than him in terms of flying/running, and putting a sandwich together; she *does* have an edge on him in terms of combat reflex/skill, just as she does over Billy and Clark.