Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, but at the same time it's well known that she's a smidgen behind him as well. I never mean to say Superman is 2x anything on Wonder Woman, he's just enough to garner 7/10 against her. That's all I'm saying. Btw, Batman beating the JLA (which he himself has never done; you might be think of the Ra's Al Guhl incident in "Tower of Babel."😉 is crap. If my previous post came off a bit strong, I'm sorry. 🙂
I know he's above her I never argued that it's just that everything here with a penis tends to make it seem so without thinking it fully out.
Originally posted by batdude123
Superman and Wonder Woman both fought back to back in Asgard for at least a thousand years.
True so all that does is add a thousand to here already many thousands.
Originally posted by Soljer
Batman is an anomaly. He is one of the BEST fighters in the DC universe after only fifteen years of training. He can beat out fighters that train for their entire lives, and he can beat out fighters that have experience even beyond their own personal life.It's bullshit, but that's the way the comics are written. 😬
See sweetie here's where I'm coming from. The rules are no PIS/CIS where and for whom do the lines end, blur, etc. So apparently we're supposed to judge these fights with the most reasonable outcome but, overlook things too?
Magic lighting, lighting fists are the only real difference in between powersets
Strengh, Speed, Durability are all roughly equal and if anything a hair in BAs direction.
Also something to count, but in comics it rarely happens, but since its the forums is his Wisdom attribute. It lets him analazy situtations, learn much faster, blah blah blah....I still think BA takes it on powers and personality 7-8/10
Originally posted by pr1983
In this fight i'd tend to root for diana, though from what i've seen of black adam i think he might shade it just a bit...still, as a fan i'd hope she wins...
See as a fan I want her to win too but, I don't blindly say she wins hands down like everyone else makes it seem for BA. So far the only reason for him winning I've heard is lightning.😬
Originally posted by LethalFemme
See the thing I don't understand is at one point people are like WW is the female Superman which, would make her like a female kryptonian but, she can't beat Supergirl?
People see WW as the female answer to Superman. IE, first among the women.
But as DC goes, they have proved that in their views, Kryptonians >>>damn near everybody else.
WW is the answer to Superman. Not the equivalent.
Supergirl is likely stronger, faster and more durable than WW. But she doesn't have the skill and experience of the Amazon.
Supergirl is more powerful imo. WW is more formidable as a whole though.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
See as a fan I want her to win too but, I don't blindly say she wins hands down like everyone else makes it seem for BA. So far the [B]only reason for him winning I've heard is lightning.😬 [/B]
well um i said he has major intellagence over her so he could come up with good stragetys
Originally posted by LethalFemme
I know he's above her I never argued that it's just that everything here with a penis tends to make it seem so without thinking it fully out.
Please don't think of my as a sexist, cause I'm not. 🙁
Originally posted by LethalFemme
True so all that does is add a thousand to here already many thousands.
When you've already had that much experience what's the difference? 😕 But I see where you're coming from. 😉 I'm just explaining that Superman isn't just some aloof farm boy or something like that.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
See sweetie here's where I'm coming from. The rules are no PIS/CIS where and for whom do the lines end, blur, etc. So apparently we're supposed to judge these fights with the most reasonable outcome but, overlook things too?
The thing is, plot induced stupidity is hardly an applicable argument when the character himself is BASED on that stupidity.
There is NO conceivable way that Batman could become as good as he is in that short time. However, he is. We HAVE to suspend that disbelief for him, the same way we do for Superman being an alien who utilizes photosynthesis.
Consider it Batman's power to just be that ridiculously good at these few things in a short time. He has to be, after all.
Same reason Captain America is one of the best fighters on Marvel Earth, yet, has hardly had any time to train whatsoever.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
See as a fan I want her to win too but, I don't blindly say she wins hands down like everyone else makes it seem for BA. So far the [B]only reason for him winning I've heard is lightning.😬 [/B]
well from what i've heard he's at least level with captain marvel, who toe to toe with superman is superior (the whole magic thing), so i think he'd just about take it... she'd give him a hell of a fight though...
and i'd pick ww to beat down kara any day of the week...
Originally posted by UniOmni
People see WW as the female answer to Superman. IE, first among the women.
But as DC goes, they have proved that in their views, Kryptonians >>>damn near everybody else.WW is the answer to Superman. Not the equivalent.
Supergirl is likely stronger, faster and more durable than WW. But she doesn't have the skill and experience of the Amazon.
Supergirl is more powerful imo. WW is more formidable as a whole though.
Understandable but, at the same time it's not like we haven't seen it mentioned in any book. So if even Superman has said or considers WW his equal it's not true? This would fall under that blanket of protection of Superman I mentioned earlier.
Originally posted by Sea King
well um i said he has major intellagence over her so he could come up with good stragetys
Are WW and BA basically not the same? Is she not a master strategist? or have the Wisdom of a god?
Originally posted by batdude123
Please don't think of my as a sexist, cause I'm not. 🙁When you've already had that much experience what's the difference? 😕 But I see where you're coming from. 😉 I'm just explaining that Superman isn't just some aloof farm boy or something like that.
Not necessarily you but, others
Refining your skills for a thousand years doesn't help? And she was smashing and killing Superman wasn't.