Originally posted by Soljer
What powers? Like the mindrape he tried? Or the martian vision that did little but anger Adam? 😛.
Like his phasing abilities.
Also like that one NVRBN said she is magic resistant. Its only logical for her to have an easier time fighting BA and CM because of that. Now whether or not BA and CA are equal to Superman because their powers are equal in all matters or because of their magical properties and Superman weakness against it thus making them equal has never really been proven to me.😬
Originally posted by LethalFemme
Like his phasing abilities.Also like that one NVRBN said she is magic resistant. Its only logical for her to have an easier time fighting BA and CM because of that. Now whether or not BA and CA are equal to Superman because their powers are equal in all matters or because of their magical properties and Superman weakness against it thus making them equal has never really been proven to me.😬
I figured you meant his intangibility, I was just giving you a hard time.
On that note, though, J'onn COULDN'T use intangibility, because he wanted to STOP Adam.
If he had gone intangible, Adam could have just gone on with his mass genocidal shit storm.
😬.
And the Manhunter isn't fast enough (relative to Black Adam) to use it on and off to gain surprise - Adam'd see it coming.
Originally posted by Soljer
I figured you meant his intangibility, I was just giving you a hard time.On that note, though, J'onn COULDN'T use intangibility, because he wanted to STOP Adam.
If he had gone intangible, Adam could have just gone on with his mass genocidal shit storm.
😬.
And the Manhunter isn't fast enough (relative to Black Adam) to use it on and off to gain surprise - Adam'd see it coming.
Does BA have to saw a magic word to gain his powers or was that just CM?
Originally posted by Galan007
I love that line. 👆
it is awesome, and it helps reaffirm superman's superiority over j'onn...
Originally posted by Soljer
I figured you meant his intangibility, I was just giving you a hard time.On that note, though, J'onn COULDN'T use intangibility, because he wanted to STOP Adam.
If he had gone intangible, Adam could have just gone on with his mass genocidal shit storm.
😬.
And the Manhunter isn't fast enough (relative to Black Adam) to use it on and off to gain surprise - Adam'd see it coming.
that is true, in a fist fight against someone like adam where even green lanterns are going down, his phasing would be all but useless...
Oh - and as far as Superman's magical vulnerability 'evening' the playing field against the SHAZAM twins? I've never bought it. His vulnerability could make him more susceptible to a SHAZAM punch, or something of the sort, sure. An actual MAGICAL attack.
I don't see his magic vulnerability making Black Adam's or Captain Marvel's muscles hit any harder, even if they are magically enhanced. I don't see his magic vulnerability making him hit any softer, even if their durability stems from a god. 😬.
Magic may make their physical attacks stronger, but they are still PHYSICAL attacks - not magical ones.
Originally posted by Soljer
Oh - and as far as Superman's magical vulnerability 'evening' the playing field against the SHAZAM twins? I've never bought it. His vulnerability could make him more susceptible to a SHAZAM punch, or something of the sort, sure. An actual MAGICAL attack.I don't see his magic vulnerability making Black Adam's or Captain Marvel's muscles hit any harder, even if they are magically enhanced. I don't see his magic vulnerability making him hit any softer, even if their durability stems from a god. 😬.
Magic may make their physical attacks stronger, but they are still PHYSICAL attacks - not magical ones.
It's a toss up to me I don't see WW getting handled like they did she has too much in her arsenal plus experience with guys like him to get what the others got. I'd go for an even split.shrug
Originally posted by Soljer
Oh - and as far as Superman's magical vulnerability 'evening' the playing field against the SHAZAM twins? I've never bought it. His vulnerability could make him more susceptible to a SHAZAM punch, or something of the sort, sure. An actual MAGICAL attack.I don't see his magic vulnerability making Black Adam's or Captain Marvel's muscles hit any harder, even if they are magically enhanced. I don't see his magic vulnerability making him hit any softer, even if their durability stems from a god. 😬.
Magic may make their physical attacks stronger, but they are still PHYSICAL attacks - not magical ones.
totally agree... anything but magical attacks and he might as well be fighting bizarro...
Originally posted by Galan007
✅And it's coming straight from a character that has a thorough knowledge of Superman's power. 😄
yup...
Originally posted by LethalFemme
It's a toss up to me I don't see WW getting handled like they did she has too much in her arsenal plus experience with guys like him to get what the others got. I'd go for an even split.shrug
but his experience, his ruthlessness and his raw power have to be factored in too...
imo he takes at LEAST 6/10...
Originally posted by Galan007
Isn't BA all but powerless now, as he doesn't know his 'word'?
That's the thing - Billy told Freddy that he didn't NEED to say SHAZAM anymore to change. Nor would saying SHAZAM necessarily change him from one form to the other. He didn't explain this as a gift that he personally bestowed on the new Captain Marvel, rather, he said this was the case because the 'rules' of magic had changed.
If the rules of magic have changed as such, they'd, likely, change across the board, no?
Originally posted by Soljer
Oh - and as far as Superman's magical vulnerability 'evening' the playing field against the SHAZAM twins? I've never bought it. His vulnerability could make him more susceptible to a SHAZAM punch, or something of the sort, sure. An actual MAGICAL attack.I don't see his magic vulnerability making Black Adam's or Captain Marvel's muscles hit any harder, even if they are magically enhanced. I don't see his magic vulnerability making him hit any softer, even if their durability stems from a god. 😬.
Magic may make their physical attacks stronger, but they are still PHYSICAL attacks - not magical ones.
Magical Punches (Magical Lighting Punches) will put him in the dirt.