Originally posted by pr1983
no, because of the writing sweetie... 😛so then yes, is your answer, right? every word that batman says in relation to metas on earth is fact, right?
I'd say when it comes to his teamates, YES. he is the prep God in DC. and he knows in order to take down a pissed Diana, you need Superman and Superman only. No one else can do it. Or else he isn't the prep God. is that what you are saying?
Originally posted by LethalFemmeYes she fights at her best...So that means she is brute?? Nope. She fights to her best skills and power. And Adam even he isn't fighting at his best all the time in comics, he is ripping people apart. He isn't holding back never. According to the rules fine. But still WW isn't the brutal 'Let's kill everyone type' at her skill level.
No because you said she isn't using all her brutal ways but, due to the rules she fights her best which means she would.
Originally posted by Rewmac
Yes she fights at her best...So that means she is brute?? Nope. She fights to her best skills and power. And Adam even he isn't fighting at his best all the time in comics, he is ripping people apart. He isn't holding back never. According to the rules fine. But still WW isn't the brutal 'Let's kill everyone type' at her skill level.
Actually WW has shown to kill. In her land killing is the norm.😬
Now granted most of the things she kills are beast, demons, etc.ermm
Originally posted by LethalFemme
so what would have you believed to be accurate?sly
if superman had been truly engraged, batman would be dead, and diana would have been severely injured...
them painting superman at being THAT angry and then doing so little damage (considering what he's capable of when he's in full control) is just plain bad writing imo...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd say when it comes to his teamates, YES. he is the prep God in DC. and he knows in order to take down a pissed Diana, you need Superman and Superman only. No one else can do it. Or else he isn't the prep God. is that what you are saying?
calling him what you just called him sort of invalidates your argument... yes batman is great, but he isn't always right... based on his evidence, he might say that superman is the only one that can take diana, but honestly, he hasnt gone toe to toe with adam or marvel and felt them hit the way they hit superman...
batman is very intelligent, and if i wanted someone to take down diana, then obviously the first guy i'd ask would be superman, given their relationship... but that does not for one second mean that superman is the only one that can do it...
I don't understand this.
Teth and Cap are presented and treated as equals to Superman.
Virtual equals.
WW is always a second to Superman. Always.
And while Diana stalemated Cap in WOTG, he handled a team that consisted of at least Diana, MM and some other in Underworld Unleashed.
He also dropped her with a bolt of lightning in Vice and Virtue.
Diana is always second to Superman.
Teth and Cap are his equals.
And White Martians aren't lightspeed Nvr.
They're mach, just like the greenies.
And did she defeat the whitey warrior before or after she was charbroiled?
Originally posted by pr1983
if superman had been truly engraged, batman would be dead, and diana would have been severely injured...them painting superman at being THAT angry and then doing so little damage (considering what he's capable of when he's in full control) is just plain bad writing imo...
then where do the true feats and PIS end? I mean we've seen loads of crap that is PIS CIS. Do you think BA's WW3 showings are accurate?
Originally posted by LethalFemmeStill Adam has more experience. Okay WW has shown to battle some powerful foes. But if go by forum rules than Adam is stronger,faster and totally more experienced.
Actually WW has shown to kill. In her land killing is the norm.😬Now granted most of the things she kills are beast, demons, etc.ermm
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't understand this.Teth and Cap are presented and treated as equals to Superman.
Virtual equals.
WW is always a second to Superman. Always.
And while Diana stalemated Cap in WOTG, he handled a team that consisted of at least Diana, MM and some other in Underworld Unleashed.
He also dropped her with a bolt of lightning in Vice and Virtue.
Diana is always second to Superman.
Teth and Cap are his equals.
And White Martians aren't lightspeed Nvr.
They're mach, just like the greenies.
And did she defeat the whitey warrior before or after she was charbroiled?
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't understand this.Teth and Cap are presented and treated as equals to Superman.
Virtual equals.
WW is always a second to Superman. Always.
And while Diana stalemated Cap in WOTG, he handled a team that consisted of at least Diana, MM and some other in Underworld Unleashed.
He also dropped her with a bolt of lightning in Vice and Virtue.
Diana is always second to Superman.
Teth and Cap are his equals.
And White Martians aren't lightspeed Nvr.
They're mach, just like the greenies.
And did she defeat the whitey warrior before or after she was charbroiled?
First of all Omni, Diana with stood lightning from Zeus. So This lighting in Vice and Virtue was what? PIS. Also, Wasn't Diana mind controlled in underworld? I know you aren't using that? She wasn't even under illusion, which is in fact, different from mind control. Also, Diana has never fought Superman at full capacity. So your argument doesn't hold up. We dont know how she will be presented becuz it has never happened. neither has CM. which is why Superman says BA hits harder. CM doesn't fight superman full capacity either. At any rate, Diana has superior Speed feats, Superior skills, and superior Weapons. not even arguing strenght, she beats him on those alone.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
then where do the true feats and PIS end? I mean we've seen loads of crap that is PIS CIS. Do you think BA's WW3 showings are accurate?
no, i dont think for a large part that they are wholly accurate... there are very few characters who can justify a story like that, and i don't think adam is one of them given the opposition...
it all comes from experience... the more comics you read, the more of a grasp you get of what a character is and isn't capable of in your own view... that means that when you see something that is completely out of character you can recognise it...
like anything in life its practice, practice, practice...
Originally posted by LethalFemme
Vice and virtuue wa filled with batman PIS CIS imo.ermm
i still havent had the chance to read vice and virtue... 🙁
Originally posted by Rewmac
Still Adam has more experience. Okay WW has shown to battle some powerful foes. But if go by forum rules than Adam is stronger,faster and totally more experienced.
Um do you remember when superman and Diana fought for thousands of years with Thor? And Show me anything to suggest adam is stronger and faster. Ww has the better speed feats and has more strength feats. We can't use any of her fights against superman to gage becuz she never fights him full capacity, while superman has fought her while enraged and sun amped. And for the record, Cm has never fought superman at full capacity either.
Originally posted by pr1983
no, i dont think for a large part that they are wholly accurate... there are very few characters who can justify a story like that, and i don't think adam is one of them given the opposition...it all comes from experience... the more comics you read, the more of a grasp you get of what a character is and isn't capable of in your own view... that means that when you see something that is completely out of character you can recognise it...
like anything in life its practice, practice, practice...
i still havent had the chance to read vice and virtue... 🙁
I know what you're getting at and the one reason I can see it as accurate is cuz after all those years of them fighting WW finally showed some intelligence while fighting Supes which is something you gain with practice.shrug
You didn't miss much with V&V powergirl unleashed her inner skank, the purple guy was there, etc.😬
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um do you remember when superman and Diana fought for thousands of years with Thor? And Show me anything to suggest adam is stronger and faster. Ww has the better speed feats and has more strength feats. We can't use any of her fights against superman to gage becuz she never fights him full capacity, while superman has fought her while enraged and sun amped. And for the record, Cm has never fought superman at full capacity either.
I was also thinking that added to the fact that WW is also how old? Her island has existed for how many millennia? I mean she technically was alive before either Supes or CM for that matter. She was the only person on the island that aged at all wasn't she?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok Since Diana draws her strength Directly from Demeter and Gaea and is Stronger than even DC's immortal herc, Who Captain Atom gets his strength from, then How is it even remotely possible that Cap is stronger than she? Expecially since In War of the Gods, Diana was his match, and john Byrne, Specifically gave diana a well noted POWER UP. An official one. I fail to see where Adam has any feat that Diana could not accomplish espeically given the amount of Pis that was in WWIII. Batman didn't die becuz Superman didn't think batman was doomsday from what I remember of that arc. he certainly thought Diana was. major difference.
Captain Marvel doesn't draw his strength from the same Hercules that Wonder Woman is superior to.
🙂.