Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by pr1983
and i adore you for it... 😉

but that's what i'm saying... how can you count batman's feats as PIS and not diana's?

here's superman saying adam hits harder than cap... granted its a once off...

Ok Since Diana draws her strength Directly from Demeter and Gaea and is Stronger than even DC's immortal herc, Who Captain Atom gets his strength from, then How is it even remotely possible that Cap is stronger than she? Expecially since In War of the Gods, Diana was his match, and john Byrne, Specifically gave diana a well noted POWER UP. An official one. I fail to see where Adam has any feat that Diana could not accomplish espeically given the amount of Pis that was in WWIII. Batman didn't die becuz Superman didn't think batman was doomsday from what I remember of that arc. he certainly thought Diana was. major difference.

Originally posted by pr1983
here's superman saying adam hits harder than cap... granted its a once off...

And heres their first encounter(i think) where Supes stated they are too evenly matched.

Originally posted by pr1983
and i adore you for it... 😉

but that's what i'm saying... how can you count batman's feats as PIS and not diana's?

here's superman saying adam hits harder than cap... granted its a once off...

Yeah then what I'm saying is doens't that make everyone's feats with batman PIS, CIS? I mean how many times have we've seen him evade a super powerful villian but, the rest of the JLA falls?

Originally posted by jrodslam
But why say that if Cap isnt a member of the JLA?

When I remember him saying it he said on earth.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And heres their first encounter(i think) where Supes stated they are too evenly matched.

IS that pre crisis?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok Since Diana draws her strength Directly from Demeter and Gaea and is Stronger than even DC's immortal herc, Who Captain Atom gets his strength from, then How is it even remotely possible that Cap is stronger than she? Expecially since In War of the Gods, Diana was his match, and john Byrne, Specifically gave diana a well noted POWER UP. An official one. I fail to see where Adam has any feat that Diana could not accomplish espeically given the amount of Pis that was in WWIII. Batman didn't die becuz Superman didn't think batman was doomsday from what I remember of that arc. he certainly thought Diana was. major difference.

Well if you remember, Captain Marvel was able to combine powers of the Gods to amp his stats. He combined the strength of Hercules and another God to match Supes. Thats been changed( or no other mention of it) and Cap/BA are automatically Supes's level without havng to combine powers.

black adam is supermans equal pretty much. ww doesnt stack up to either character. she would and bad to black adam. hed make her black out.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
When I remember him saying it he said on earth.

Earth or not, why mention it when the other isnt part of your group? Diana s, thus thats why shes mentioned.

http://img79.echo.cx/my.php?image=jla96196qa.jpg

http://img122.exs.cx/img122/7572/JLA2pg07.jpg

http://img103.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img...age=WW194-1.jpg
http://img103.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img...age=WW194-2.jpg

http://img129.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img...am-DCP_pg13.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Superman_v2_211_2005_Team-DCP_pg14.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Superman_v2_211_2005_Team-DCP_pg19.jpg

These are just reminders of What she is able to do. pay close attention to Superman getting kicked to all hell and how far she was able to send him flying. I'll be back with more.

here is the BIG one

http://img206.exs.cx/img206/9425/batmansayssupesmuststopwwww140.jpg

NUFF said. BA nor Captain atom are beating WW.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok Since Diana draws her strength Directly from Demeter and Gaea and is Stronger than even DC's immortal herc, Who Captain Atom gets his strength from, then How is it even remotely possible that Cap is stronger than she? Expecially since In War of the Gods, Diana was his match, and john Byrne, Specifically gave diana a well noted POWER UP. An official one. I fail to see where Adam has any feat that Diana could not accomplish espeically given the amount of Pis that was in WWIII. Batman didn't die becuz Superman didn't think batman was doomsday from what I remember of that arc. he certainly thought Diana was. major difference.

he'd seen brainiac had killed lois, jimmy, perry and lana... and hadnt he seen batman as ruin OR darkseid (two writers on that one 😖) kill lois? either one of those is sufficient to push him over the edge, doomsday or not, so i dont think theres as much of a difference as you claim to be... he's gonna be royally pissed anyways...

Originally posted by jrodslam
And heres their first encounter(i think) where Supes stated they are too evenly matched.

god how old is that? 😛 cool though...

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Yeah then what I'm saying is doens't that make everyone's feats with batman PIS, CIS? I mean how many times have we've seen him evade a super powerful villian but, the rest of the JLA falls?

oh, batman is a walking PIS machine, there's no doubt about it...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
here is the BIG one

http://img206.exs.cx/img206/9425/batmansayssupesmuststopwwww140.jpg

NUFF said. BA nor Captain atom are beating WW.

captain atom? 😛

batman said that yes, but if he'd have asked adam, adam would have probably politely told him to go f*ck himself...

😛

a character's once off statement isnt exactly set in stone proof is it? 😬

Originally posted by pr1983
he'd seen brainiac had killed lois, jimmy, perry and lana... and hadnt he seen batman as ruin OR darkseid (two writers on that one 😖) kill lois? either one of those is sufficient to push him over the edge, doomsday or not, so i dont think theres as much of a difference as you claim to be... he's gonna be royally pissed anyways...

god how old is that? 😛 cool though...

oh, batman is a walking PIS machine, there's no doubt about it...

captain atom? 😛

batman said that yes, but if he'd have asked adam, adam would have probably politely told him to go f*ck himself...

😛

a character's once off statement isnt exactly set in stone proof is it? 😬

you know I meant CM. And it's not the first time. In Amazons attacks Batman wanted to make sure Clark was around becuz he would be the only one who could stand up to her. And BATMAN isn't one character. Batman has dosier files on every superhuman on the planet. He knows his stuff. That would be like if Iron man says Only Thor can contain Sentry. I would sure as hell believe his statement.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Earth or not, why mention it when the other isnt part of your group? Diana s, thus thats why shes mentioned.

True and at the same time she's part of the big seven and Billy isn't. I mean can you see my view on it whenever there's a huge threat and the JLA are called it's the JLA not necessarily them and the JSA.

Originally posted by pr1983
oh, batman is a walking PIS machine, there's no doubt about it...

so does that mean in any story that has batman with feats like these that the whole story is PIS or just his parts?

Originally posted by LethalFemme
True and at the same time she's part of the big seven and Billy isn't. I mean can you see my view on it whenever there's a huge threat and the JLA are called it's the JLA not necessarily them and the JSA.

so does that mean in any story that has batman with feats like these that the whole story is PIS or just his parts?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you know I meant CM. And it's not the first time. In Amazons attacks Batman wanted to make sure Clark was around becuz he would be the only one who could stand up to her. And BATMAN isn't one character. Batman has dosier files on every superhuman on the planet. He knows his stuff. That would be like if Iron man says Only Thor can contain Sentry. I would sure as hell believe his statement.

i know, i was teasing... 😉

batman believes that superman can stop diana because as the biggest feminist on the planet, if there's one man she'll listen to, its clark... its not just about his powers... they have a connection that very few heroes have...

not every writer pays attention to the dossier files stuff... superman, j'onn, cap, adam, wally and hal would all have a chance of taking diana down if it was necessary... saying superman is the only one on earth is a bit much imo...

and yes, thor would kick the shit out of sentry... 😛

Originally posted by LethalFemme
so does that mean in any story that has batman with feats like these that the whole story is PIS or just his parts?

his parts, and only if they are genuinely PIS, i mean, he is batman, he's pretty damn good when he wants to be...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually, Batman states that superman is the only force on EARTH that can RESTRAIN Diana. The omac files have them listed at the same strength lvl and speed lvl. While superman gets the nod in Flight speed. And batman is walking pis. what regular human do you know that can swing from buildings weighting 200 plus pounds and not pull thier arms out of thier sockets. 😛

Thats the thing that annoying about him. I mean many people would go and say well batman said so and then there are many people that pick and choose if what he says is accurate depending on their view of the situation. I mean I'm sure you're goon get at least one statement where someone says just cuz he said it doesn't make it true.ermm

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you know I meant CM. And it's not the first time. In Amazons attacks Batman wanted to make sure Clark was around becuz he would be the only one who could stand up to her. And BATMAN isn't one character. Batman has dosier files on every superhuman on the planet. He knows his stuff. That would be like if Iron man says Only Thor can contain Sentry. I would sure as hell believe his statement.

i know, i was teasing... 😉

batman believes that superman can stop diana because as the biggest feminist on the planet, if there's one man she'll listen to, its clark... its not just about his powers... they have a connection that very few heroes have...

not every writer pays attention to the dossier files stuff... superman, j'onn, cap, adam, wally and hal would all have a chance of taking diana down if it was necessary... saying superman is the only one on earth is a bit much imo...

and yes, thor would kick the shit out of sentry... 😛

Originally posted by LethalFemme
so does that mean in any story that has batman with feats like these that the whole story is PIS or just his parts?

his parts, and only if they are genuinely PIS, i mean, he is batman, he's pretty damn good when he wants to be...

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Thats the thing that annoying about him. I mean many people would go and say well batman said so and then there are many people that pick and choose if what he says is accurate depending on their view of the situation. I mean I'm sure you're goon get at least one statement where someone says just cuz he said it doesn't make it true.ermm

Originally posted by pr1983
batman believes that superman can stop diana because as the biggest feminist on the planet, if there's one man she'll listen to, its clark... its not just about his powers... they have a connection that very few heroes have...

not every writer pays attention to the dossier files stuff... superman, j'onn, cap, adam, wally and hal would all have a chance of taking diana down if it was necessary... saying superman is the only one on earth is a bit much imo...

see what I mean?sly

Originally posted by pr1983
damn good when he wants to be...

then her part stands.😛

Originally posted by LethalFemme
see what I mean?sly

no... shrug

then her part stands.😛

nope... 😛

because sacrifice IS one of the PIS instances where batman is concerned imo... 😉

Well I've already posted her being able to match superman and actually push him into a mountain and leave a mark and kick the holy helll out of him and send him flying. She's taken hits from a sun amped pissed off superman and knocked the crap out of the tuffest and best fighter among the white martians. She also beat a crap load of angels off panel. I'd say BA isn't having any of A pissed off kill Mode Diana. Just not going to happen.

Originally posted by pr1983
no... shrug

nope... 😛

because sacrifice IS one of the PIS instances where batman is concerned imo... 😉

Not you NVRBN. I said that just because Batman said it was true doesn't mean that everyone will believe it and that someone will say why. Which you did.😉

So you consider the whole story PIS and not just his part? You're picking.nahuh