Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl112 pages
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Strength and Endurance edge.

YOu may think he has a strength edge, but Wondy has already stalemated a few beings who are BA's lvl of strength. Kid Amazo, CM, a couple of White martians, etc. His strength isn't a concern. Did you see how well captain America did against Namor? Wondy is at least as skilled as Cap and I'd say far superior, So why shouldn't she be able to beat someone who MAY be SLIGHTLY stronger? Zoom hits harder than BA. SO does Sun Amped Superman. So does Oblivion. Wondy knows the routine. WOndy has speed and reaction feats that simply trump Black Adams. And she has a shield He CAN"T get thru. She's got vambraces that can block up to 90 percent of his punches. Making His strength Edge, If he has one, mean nothing if he can't hit her.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu may think he has a strength edge, but Wondy has already stalemated a few beings who are BA's lvl of strength. Kid Amazo, CM, a couple of White martians, etc. His strength isn't a concern. Did you see how well captain America did against Namor? Wondy is at least as skilled as Cap and I'd say far superior, So why shouldn't she be able to beat someone who MAY be SLIGHTLY stronger? Zoom hits harder than BA. SO does Sun Amped Superman. So does Oblivion. Wondy knows the routine. WOndy has speed and reaction feats that simply trump Black Adams. And she has a shield He CAN"T get thru. She's got vambraces that can block up to 90 percent of his punches. Making His strength Edge, If he has one, mean nothing if he can't hit her.

Black Adam does - and IS physically stronger and more powerful than Wonderwoman. This is not a random thought.

I agree Wondy has defeated stronger opponents though.
Adam also has more endurance and I'd give him the edge due to killer instinct too.

Speed...I have no idea. WW has more feats than BA so I'd say WW.

Also you cant block all close ranged physical attacks with bracelets.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Black Adam does - and IS physically stronger and more powerful than Wonderwoman. This is not a random thought.

I agree Wondy has defeated stronger opponents though.
Adam also has more endurance and I'd give him the edge due to killer instinct too.

Speed...I have no idea. WW has more feats than BA so I'd say WW.

Also you cant block all close ranged attacks with bracelets.

Um, WOndy is an amazon and has killed beings for thousands of years. She has a killer instinct. Don't be fooled. And she's a better fighter than BA. Also, Wondy has blocked close range attacks from a magical light god repeatedly with out fail with 100 percent accuracy. I'll post the scan in a sec. Gotta find it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, WOndy is an amazon and has killed beings for thousands of years. She has a killer instinct. Don't be fooled. And she's a better fighter than BA. Also, Wondy has blocked close range attacks from a magical light god repeatedly with out fail with 100 percent accuracy. I'll post the scan in a sec. Gotta find it.

Agreed.

Black Adam is still physically stronger
and has better endurance.

And she can't shield herself from all of Black Adam's attacks forever either.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Agreed.

Black Adam is still physically stronger
and has better endurance.

And she can't shield herself from all of Black Adam's attacks forever either.

I don't think she can either. But He's going to be putting a hurting on himself hitting those indestructible vambraces and her shield. And she's shown that she can take punches from guys who hit harder than BA. So I just think She is a good match for BA. I'm inclined to give them 5/10. But I give 4/10 to Wondy cuz of the forum's over whelming wanking of adam.

Also I'd add that Wondy has more killer instincts than Superman himself...but more than Black Adam?

No.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But I give 4/10 to Wondy cuz of the forum's over whelming wanking of adam.

lol ok, well you actually brought up a good point - if we look at Wondy's fighting experience... I think JLA encounters gives her the advantage there...so it does raise her odds.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Black Adam does - and IS physically stronger and more powerful than Wonderwoman. This is not a random thought.

I agree Wondy has defeated stronger opponents though.
Adam also has more endurance and I'd give him the edge due to killer instinct too.

Speed...I have no idea. WW has more feats than BA so I'd say WW.

Also you cant block all close ranged physical attacks with bracelets.

Endurance will not play a part in this fight at all because the fight will be over before either becomes exhausted.

More strength=more powerful
so why be redundant at the terms?
Just say he is stronger that's all.

Allowing Rhino to have infinite endurance then your logic suggests that Rhino>Spiderman since he is stronger and has more endurance.

What makes you think Diana is just going to sit there and block his punches? Why not she throw punches/kicks too? Why not she counter his punches with punches/tiara of her own?

What about the aegis shield?
This assures at least a stalemate.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Also I'd add that Wondy has more killer instincts than Superman himself...but more than Black Adam?

No.

Do you read Wonder Woman or about the Amazons? They wholly killed thousands of Parademons. Guys who are like superman lvl in strength. The Amazons took over washington DC and were killing anyone in thier way. Wondy has the same instinct. She chooses not to do so becuz she is the emissary of peace. She had no qualms about killing Granny Goodness.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Do you read Wonder Woman or about the Amazons? They wholly killed thousands of Parademons. Guys who are like superman lvl in strength. The Amazons took over washington DC and were killing anyone in thier way. Wondy has the same instinct. She chooses not to do so becuz she is the emissary of peace. She had no qualms about killing Granny Goodness.

True, but even that requires a shift in thinking. Its like someone who is constantly evil, versus someone who suppresses their evil side, it can come out, but it is more likely to take a while to come out - in this case at the expense of physical damage and exertion.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
True, but even that requires a shift in thinking. Its like someone who is constantly evil, versus someone who suppresses their evil side, it can come out, but it is more likely to take a while to come out - in this case as the expense of physical damage and exertion.

No it doesn't. Police officer is there to protect the public. But Will instantly kill someone if they present danger to themselves or to the public.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No it doesn't. Police officer is there to protect the public. But Will instantly kill someone if they present danger to themselves or to the public.

you are talking about killing someone, I am speaking more in terms of a devious nature....cops do what they are trained to do in life threatening situations.

Pure evil is based on constantly being in a state of mind of destruction.

A trained cop has been conditioned and is trained in various responses to set situations.

A pure devious mind is more out of the box...and is used to living there.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
you are talking about killing someone, I am speaking more in terms of a devious nature....cops do what they are trained to do in life threatening situations.

Pure evil is based on constantly being in a state of mind of destruction.

A trained cop has been conditioned and is trained in various responses to set situations.

A pure devious mind is more out of the box...and is used to living there.

Yes. Pure evil is often sloppy too. Wild and intoxicated with thier own power. While Wondy has been trained for thousands of years to be a warrior and kill during battle if she has to. She had no problems killing max lord, who was no threat to her per say. Black Adam is an Atom Bomb. Wonder Woman is a Laser from Space. Both deadly, but one is far more precise.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes. Pure evil is often sloppy too. Wild and intoxicated with thier own power. While Wondy has been trained for thousands of years to be a warrior and kill during battle if she has to. She had no problems killing max lord, who was no threat to her per say. Black Adam is an Atom Bomb. Wonder Woman is a Laser from Space. Both deadly, but one is far more precise.

I hear ya, But which would you rather try to avoid?

Originally posted by horrorwolf
I hear ya, But which would you rather try to avoid?

YOu can't avoid either. An Atom Bomb is messy and hits every thing. A laser from Space will kill you no matter where you are. Either way your dead. At least with an atom bomb, you get lucky and maybe get outskirts injury. No such luck when a laser fires from space and wipes out your whole town.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
I hear ya, But which would you rather try to avoid?

If they both were out to kill me then I would equally want to avoid both(since I a mere human have no defense against neither of them).

But I would rather be WW (with her limb cutting tiara and one-shot winning lasso) fighting against BA than me being
BA and fighting against WW.

Who would you rather be fighting against the other?

Originally posted by h1a8
If they both were out to kill me then I would equally want to avoid both(since I a mere human have no defense against neither of them).

But I would rather be WW (with her limb cutting tiara and one-shot winning lasso) fighting against BA than me being
BA and fighting against WW.

Who would you rather be fighting against the other?


I'd rather be Wondy. With shields, better skills, a lasso, and better reflexes and speed. Black adam is tuff, but he isn't so tuff that he can't lose his head to her tiara.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu can't avoid either. An Atom Bomb is messy and hits every thing. A laser from Space will kill you no matter where you are. Either way your dead. At least with an atom bomb, you get lucky and maybe get outskirts injury. No such luck when a laser fires from space and wipes out your whole town.

obviously that depends on the laser...lol

point being both are grim, but one is more devastating....especially at close range.

A-bomb. Drop, BOOM, Widespread Death.
Laser. Set Coordinates, Aim, Shoot, Death.

A-bomb is taking out everything. Laser still has chances of missing the target, as it is a focused attack, as opposed to widespread....and then you have the preceding fallout, nuclear winter and mutations....

uh, how did we get on Lasers, and A-bombs anyway?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Here Wondy ties up amazo before Superman even moves. Hell even Amazo with the powers of the league and atleast a dozen others is still caught unaware. Now When has BA EVER blitzed someone so fast? Not only did Amazo get blitzed, But wondy tied a freakin kNot as well. http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...LAv2__6p4-1.jpg

WW could block BA's punches her sleep,Check it: http://www.newsarama.com/DC/Wonder_Woman/WW215p1.jpg

This has been bothering since I first saw it. And replying on Hulk+Thing vs Black Adam made me come back to it.

She did it because apparently they have a plan that involves her lassoing Amazo first and then everyone else playing their rolls. Superman's hands unclenched and he moved in to go for the eyes.

She can block a lot of his punches, but bullets are far slower than Black Adam's top speed.

Vs Kid Amazo? Deathstroke tagged Flash too because 'he knew he'd try that'. Next time Diana tags him should it be one of her speed feats? He could've gone intagible if he didn't really want to be held by Diana...but who wouldn't? 😎

I don't discount her speed but I don't see anything that makes me think their speed is on a different level from each other, or at least if it is, not in her favor.

FWIW I never read the entire Oblivion arc. Did he KO Superman before or after he dropped the red sun on him?

This is hilarious.