Racism and Blackness

Originally posted by KidRock
Do you watch the UFC at all? And what else did your friend say? He is a Karate black belt? He took on 10 guys at one time in a back alley? Ooo he is just too dangerous for the UFC to take him in. bullshit.

1. Hes an internal martial artist
2. Martial arts is big business
3. Are ytou telling me my friends a liar because im pretty sure thats what he said and they didnt let him in, the fcat of the matter is its supsect
4. I havent watched it recently but some of those guys they had on their weres just crap.

Originally posted by KidRock

Lots of blacks and whites go to high school and college, generally whites come out on top as well.

1. You havent denied that blacks do better at sports.
2. That didnt really respond to the points I made there are more whites than blacks just but that alone they are going to do better.

Originally posted by Alfheim
1. Hes an internal martial artist
2. Martial arts is big business
3. Are ytou telling me my friends a liar because im pretty sure thats what he said and they didnt let him in, the fcat of the matter is its supsect
4. I havent watched it recently but some of those guys they had on their weres just crap.

What I am saying is your friend is full of shit. It's like saying they didnt let my friend into the NFL because he was too good at running.

Originally posted by Alfheim

1. You havent denied that blacks do better at sports.
2. That didnt really respond to the points I made there are more whites than blacks just but that alone they are going to do better.

It's all about upbringing. Of course an inner city black kid(more black youths live in inner cities then whites) will be better at basketball then a farm boy from Iowa. Blacks do better at sports because of how they are raised, nothing to do with genetics.

Originally posted by KidRock

It's all about upbringing. Of course an inner city black kid(more black youths live in inner cities then whites) will be better at basketball then a farm boy from Iowa. Blacks do better at sports because of how they are raised, nothing to do with genetics.

Some truth in this if you look at the history of heavyweight boxing in recent years. No white champions for many blacks in inner cities it was a hope of escape and a way out of being poor. When poor whites who lived under equally bad conditions in Eastern Europe came along we had White champions and contenders coming out of our ears.

Originally posted by KidRock
What I am saying is your friend is full of shit. It's like saying they didnt let my friend into the NFL because he was too good at running.

1. Well again you havent met my friend so you dont know if hes lying. Assuming that he is heres the rational behind it.

2. Like I said its big business. Have you picked up a martial arts magazine. Martials artists sell videos, books and try to openup martial art schools, they cant do that if they dont do well in the tournament. Considering that there is corruption in boxing I dont see why its not feasible that they may not let an MA in who they think will be threat.

Originally posted by KidRock

It's all about upbringing. Of course an inner city black kid(more black youths live in inner cities then whites) will be better at basketball then a farm boy from Iowa. Blacks do better at sports because of how they are raised, nothing to do with genetics.

Yeah but the only problem with that is even in the UK blacks do better at athletics and boxing as far as I can see. UK is not like America yeah we have ghettoes but not like America. I cant see any difference between how blacks and whites are raised in the Uk

Originally posted by Zebedee
Some truth in this if you look at the history of heavyweight boxing in recent years. No white champions for many blacks in inner cities it was a hope of escape and a way out of being poor. When poor whites who lived under equally bad conditions in Eastern Europe came along we had White champions and contenders coming out of our ears.

Interestingly enough the toughest boxers are Romnav Gypsies. Ive heard boxing trainers talk about them, you're told not to get in a punching match with them because they can take alot of damage they're not the best boxers but they're just TOUGH. Yeah they live in Caravans but they're not living in really bad conditions.

Alfheim could you elaborate on how this guy was too dangerous? They may not of been talking about his skills, but after matches if he lost or sumthin maybe he went crazy and attacked the opponent after the match ended.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Alfheim could you elaborate on how this guy was too dangerous? They may not of been talking about his skills, but after matches if he lost or sumthin maybe he went crazy and attacked the opponent after the match ended.

No he was an internal martial artist. You know martial arts that use chi. The guy wanted to participate and he had to list the styles hes trained in and from what I can remember it was alot of oriental stuff.

Originally posted by Alfheim
1. Well again you havent met my friend so you dont know if hes lying. Assuming that he is heres the rational behind it.

durbya

No? I rest my case.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No he was an internal martial artist. You know martial arts that use chi. The guy wanted to participate and he had to list the styles hes trained in and from what I can remember it was alot of oriental stuff.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You don't need to meet a person to know they're lying, have you actually met president Bush?

durbya

No? I rest my case.

Well look I find it offensive being told my friend is full of **** ok!!!!! My point was keep an open mind and if you read what I said afterwards I gave an explantion of why he could be telling the truth.

What now....gezzzz. 😬

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That doesn't answer my question(unless that's why he was kicked out, which does indeed make your friend a lier).

He wasnt kicked out they wouldnt let him in the tournament.

Originally posted by Alfheim
He wasnt kicked out they wouldnt let him in the tournament.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well look I find it offensive being told my friend is full of **** ok!!!!! My point was keep an open mind and if you read what I said afterwards I gave an explantion of why he could be telling the truth.

What now....gezzzz. 😬

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Are you actually telling me that they wouldn't let him in ONLY because he practiced an internal martial art?

Well maybe not but thats the impression I got. Considering that there have been scientific tests on people who used chi to dry towels in freezing cold temperatures and considering the fcat that the UFC is a business, its possible they didnt want to let him in for that reason.

Originally posted by Creshosk
My point was not wether or not he was a liar. My point was that you do not need to meet a person to know about them.

Brilliant, could you go away please?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well maybe not but thats the impression I got. Considering that there have been scientific tests on people who used chi to dry towels in freezing cold temperatures and considering the fcat that the UFC is a business, its possible they didnt want to let him in for that reason.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well anyway the best UFC fighter ever(Ken Shamrock) was white. I don't know about using your Chi to dry towels, can you give us proof?

Im afraid I cant. I had a video of it on VHS of a TV program, all I can say is that it seemed real because I could see the cold on their breath and I could see the steam coming off the towels. My VHS is broken down but I still have the video.

All I can say is from personal experience is that I meditate that my body temperature goes up so it seems entirely feasible that people who are much more advanced than me can do this.

Not everybody can dry towels but anybody who uses chi well tell you about the increase in temperature.

Well, can you even give me proof Chi exists?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well, can you even give me proof Chi exists?

Learn to meditate and try and find some tai chi or qi gong masters. Ive seen enough proof that exists you'll have to find out for yourself, obvously I cant prove anything over the net.

Im pretty sure if you went to a Shaolin Monk demonstration and you actually asked them questions about it they could actually prove something.

This all the info I got on the web about the program

http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/790008

Sorry not much help at all. 😬

Well I seriously doubt that being able to superheat your body temp is enough of a reason to ban a guy from UFC, I doubt your friend s he is not an official source and neither are you so it's fallible info.

Well maybe not but thats the impression I got. Considering that there have been scientific tests on people who used chi to dry towels in freezing cold temperatures and considering the fcat that the UFC is a business, its possible they didnt want to let him in for that reason.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Learn to meditate and try and find some tai chi or qi gong masters. Ive seen enough proof that exists you'll have to find out for yourself, obvously I cant prove anything over the net.

Im pretty sure if you went to a Shaolin Monk demonstration and you actually asked them questions about it they could actually prove something.

I do Tai Chi, and it is very good for ones health and mind, but not because it somehow mystically channels chi, which I have never encountered in it.