Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...uhh lobo is MUCH smarter than world war hulk...all hulk demonstrated was that he wasnt stupid...never once did he demonstrate above average intellect while lobo has been shown multiple times to be a super genius
the offical marvel bio rateed the green scar intelligence level 6 B(extraordinary genius) he has the intellect of bruce banner and is more cunning than joe fixit
Originally posted by id369
Keith Giffen never really wanted Lobo to be an on going part of the DC main stream. His character is built around that idea of being a grossly over the top violence/comic relief. No way can he get away with the shit he does, in his own series. His character has to be tooned down in order for the plot to progress, like many other characters. Those mini’s/series he has had. Well that is exactly how he is suppose to be depicted as.Whats silly is member tag Lobo as a DEM character, but openly except another popular one who entire arc is built around PIS and Plot devices.
Look at the argument of Lobo breaking his hand on DS….ok didn’t the Void break every bone in Hulk’s body. Oh that’s right, its WWH and he took Sentry all out, going all out himself. Look no planet wrecking just a wrecked city!
I don’t think anyone will argue that the Main Stream Lobo is a paperweight, compared to the Toon Force Lobo you seen in own series. And that basically goes to a bunch of characters that appear outside their own series.
Shame on you bias members of KMC, sham on you.
Thank you.
L.E.G.I.O.N 9x Lobo gets destroyed by King Hulk. Wily Coyote Lobo according to Lobo's Back could take out the LT, as no force in heaven could stop or contain him. That Lobo should be barred from any thread, and all feats of him should be disregarded as PIS combined with CIS. Debates are based on continuity not inconsistencies.
Originally posted by CaptainStoicHere …in this comic book forum, debates takes on the grounds OP address its stipulation. Lobo’s Back (where single handedly took on all the forces from Heaven and Hell), did take place in continuity. That members wish to point out, and cry its PIS/CIS, character inconsistence. That’s more or less giving into a cop-out, since its character is still, and will always be an over the top character regardless if it’s a mini, own sires, or a guest appearance. To ban feats, simply because you don’t approve of them makes one look stupid.
Thank you.L.E.G.I.O.N 9x Lobo gets destroyed by King Hulk. Wily Coyote Lobo according to Lobo's Back could take out the LT, as no force in heaven could stop or contain him. That Lobo should be barred from any thread, and all feats of him should be disregarded as PIS combined with CIS. Debates are based on continuity not inconsistencies.
Originally posted by beast1234
wwh is smarter because he dose not have a inner conflict with bruce banner infact they work together which allows him to use the intellect of bruce banner and he more cunning than joe fixit when it come to fighting/war
You shouldn’t sleep on Lobo intellect. Most of the time he gives into his macho bullshit and attempts to out muscle its way out. His act of rebellion lead to the destruction of his own immortal (long ling) regenerative race, through the creation of a parasite that targeted every one save himself.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxWW Hulk was not hurt the slightest either. He held his ground and bfr'd Juggs. This was also immediately after he took on two teams of mutants and beat a weaker Juggs ass. So,yeah WW Hulk was damn impressive imo.
Lol.WWH got one punch in and crushed his helmet, which did not hurt Juggernaut.
Juggernaut bloodied his mouth and stomped his face into the dirt.
He had to BFR him.
Originally posted by jksHe hurt his hand on Darkseid's jaw.
If we go by logic, wwh wins quite convincingly. Not much lobo can do to himIf we go by kmc "logic",ten lobo beats everyone from galactus to LT, but still loses to supes and ww
Originally posted by quanchi112I guess that is why WWH had blood spraying out of his mouth from a single punch by the Juggernaut? And I guess he likes having a boot on his head with a mouthful of dirt? He beat a bunch of people weaker than him by a great amount. Big deal.
WW Hulk was not hurt the slightest either. He held his ground and bfr'd Juggs. This was also immediately after he took on two teams of mutants and beat a weaker Juggs ass. So,yeah WW Hulk was damn impressive imo.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxSo making WW Hulk bleed is doing significant damage to his person? 😂 Did you read the arc at all or did you forget about his insanely awesome healing factor?
I guess that is why WWH had blood spraying out of his mouth from a single punch by the Juggernaut? And I guess he likes having a boot on his head with a mouthful of dirt? He beat a bunch of people weaker than him by a great amount. Big deal.
He bfr'd Juggs and held his ground after he whipped lots of ass.
Originally posted by quanchi112You are avoiding the point. WWH had to BFR Juggernaut, cause he was losing the brawl. And Juggernaut's healing factor is greater than WWH's...Not like it matters, since WWH can't hurt him.
So making WW Hulk bleed is doing significant damage to his person? 😂 Did you read the arc at all or did you forget about his insanely awesome healing factor?He bfr'd Juggs and held his ground after he whipped lots of ass.
That BFR was bullshit. Juggernaut for some reason lost the ability to stop running when Hulk BFRed him, stupid as fvck.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxAgain,regardless of your personal opinion WW Hulk won the fight. end of story.
You are avoiding the point. WWH had to BFR Juggernaut, cause he was losing the brawl. And Juggernaut's healing factor is greater than WWH's...Not like it matters, since WWH can't hurt him.That BFR was bullshit. Juggernaut for some reason lost the ability to stop running when Hulk BFRed him, stupid as fvck.
WW Hulk not being able to hurt the Juggeranut physically,how is that a low showing?
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WW Hulk won. He beat his ass twice in the same story.
Originally posted by beast1234bruce banner is still human, lobo has super human intelligence, able to construct vastly complicated machinery and several minutes sometimes
the offical marvel bio rateed the green scar intelligence level 6 B(extraordinary genius) he has the intellect of bruce banner and is more cunning than joe fixit
Originally posted by CaptainStoicwhy, we're using lobo at the best of his abilities, so why would you use his low feats?
Thank you.L.E.G.I.O.N 9x Lobo gets destroyed by King Hulk. Wily Coyote Lobo according to Lobo's Back could take out the LT, as no force in heaven could stop or contain him. That Lobo should be barred from any thread, and all feats of him should be disregarded as PIS combined with CIS. Debates are based on continuity not inconsistencies.
Originally posted by quanchi112Personal opinion? Cain is no genius, but he is smart enough to know when to stop friggin running.
Again,regardless of your personal opinion WW Hulk won the fight. end of story.WW Hulk not being able to hurt the Juggeranut physically,how is that a low showing?
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WW Hulk won. He beat his ass twice in the same story.
It's not. Only pointing out that the brawl was not in WWH's favor.
First time was weak depowered version.
Second time, Juggernaut lost because he forgot how to stop running.
Juggernaut is so unstoppable that even he can't stop himself when he builds momentum! jugdurnaut
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxHe lost. Just because you dont like it,that changes nothing. WW Hulk beat Juggs twice. WW Hulk was holding his ground and when he let him go away Juggs went. WW Hulk 2-0 vs. Juggs.
Personal opinion? Cain is no genius, but he is smart enough to know when to stop friggin running.It's not. Only pointing out that the brawl was not in WWH's favor.
First time was weak depowered version.
Second time, Juggernaut lost because he forgot how to stop running.
Juggernaut is so unstoppable that even he can't stop himself when he builds momentum! jugdurnaut
Originally posted by quanchi112First of all, it was a totally different Juggs WWH beat the first time.
He lost. Just because you dont like it,that changes nothing. WW Hulk beat Juggs twice. WW Hulk was holding his ground and when he let him go away Juggs went. WW Hulk 2-0 vs. Juggs.
Juggernaut didn't even get to build any momentum when pushing against WWH, and then WWH sidestepped him, and Juggernaut ran a full 20-30 feet, during which time, he apparently could not stop running. Wow. 😐
It is called CONTEXT.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxIts the same character. he beat the hell out of a weaker Juggs and then bfr'd full power Juggs.
First of all, it was a totally different Juggs WWH beat the first time.Juggernaut didn't even get to build any momentum when pushing against WWH, and then WWH sidestepped him, and Juggernaut ran a full 20-30 feet, during which time, he apparently could not stop running. Wow. 😐
It is called CONTEXT.
Juggs was bfr'd,my context is dead on accurate. Dont try to downplay WW Hulk here just because you dont agree with him beating juggernaut.
Originally posted by quanchi112I don't agree with PIS giving WWH the win, and the apparent power to take away Juggernaut's ability to stop running. There is a No PIS rule ya know.
Its the same character. he beat the hell out of a weaker Juggs and then bfr'd full power Juggs.Juggs was bfr'd,my context is dead on accurate. Dont try to downplay WW Hulk here just because you dont agree with him beating juggernaut.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxWW Hulk defeated him in a comic. Sorry,buddy but its canon. I could care less about your personal opinion on the matter.
I don't agree with PIS giving WWH the win, and the apparent power to take away Juggernaut's ability to stop running. There is a No PIS rule ya know.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
why, we're using lobo at the best of his abilities, so why would you use his low feats?
Not low levels, if we were to go with Lou who defeated Lobo in Lobo's Back, and compare him to Superman Lou was found lacking, yet he beat Lobo.
Lobo is inconsistant and his high silly feats make no sense whatsoever, do you think that there isn't enough power in heaven to stop Superman? Superman one pieced Lobo.
I say that debates that involve Lobo need to be ones that he is comparable to other heros, because as I said before his mini's often put him on the level of conceptual beings, yet when he faces characters like Despero who is no where near said level, he's seen being tossed miles away, or struggling against Captain Marvel, or getting beaten to a pulp by an eclipsed Superman.... but wait a minute didn't Captain Marvel hold out against an eclipsed Superman?
In his first mini self titled Lobo, he is seen reeling from a sledge hammer assault, and the guy weilding the weapon was only human, cut by a ripper so deep that it was apparent that he was hurt. This is certainly not someone that is capable of facing a guy capable of shifting a continent.
As I said, not the low feats, but the feats that shows how he measures up to guys like Superman, Despero, Hal Jordan, Wonder Woman, Darkseid... etc...etc.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
bruce banner is still human, lobo has super human intelligence, able to construct vastly complicated machinery and several minutes sometimes
Lobo would never be able to create a device in time for him to use anything before King Hulk got to him, let's remember that the Hulk is capable of overtaking fighter jets when he is leaping.... so when you factor in the distance at which they are apart at the start of the battle there simply wouldn't be enough time for this type of situation.
Originally posted by quanchi112First of all, it is "I couldn't care less", saying I could care less says that you do in fact care about my personal opinion. 🙂
WW Hulk defeated him in a comic. Sorry,buddy but its canon. I could care less about your personal opinion on the matter.
And fact is, it WAS PIS, and you really need to stop breaking the No PIS rule Quanchi.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxIt happened and is canon. Bfr is a win on this board. WW Hulk>Juggernaut imo and is supported by WW Hulk.
First of all, it is "I couldn't care less", saying I could care less says that you do in fact care about my personal opinion. 🙂And fact is, it WAS PIS, and you really need to stop breaking the No PIS rule Quanchi.