Mystery Religions and Christianity

You need to learn more about Buddhism. It might help you realize that there are some good religions in the world.

Thats just a matter of opinion, period.

Right so did the Vikings push their religon on to over people?

Do Buddhists push their beliefs on other people? What about Hindus and Jainists?

Right so what you're saying is religon is stupid because some people tend to push their beliefs on other people?

So basically what you've done is labeled religon stupid because some people are negative while ignoring the fcat there are still alot of religous people that are still postive. Dont you think thats a bit ignorant?

Originally posted by anaconda
I know enough about buddism to know it aint for me...

That maybe true, but Buddhism can be viewed as a philosophy, and in that way, it might be good for you.

Anaconda what about Buddhism do you know that you do not agree with ?

I have a feeling there's something you misunderstand about it, but i could be wrong.

That maybe true, but Buddhism can be viewed as a philosophy, and in that way, it might be good for you.

Anaconda what about Buddhism do you know that you do not agree with ?
I have a feeling there's something you misunderstand about it, but i could be wrong

Originally posted by anaconda
even as a philosophy it aint my thing...

Ok, but does "aint my thing" equal "mumbo jumbo"? Are you into American football? If not, then American football would be mumbo jumbo. 😆

I am actually into American Football, baseball though zzzzzzzzzzzzz and basket ball mumbo jumbo sissy sport and yes I feel buddhism fills out enough to make the mumbo jumbo list

Originally posted by anaconda
I am actually into American Football, baseball though zzzzzzzzzzzzz and basket ball mumbo jumbo sissy sport and yes I feel buddhism fills out enough to make the mumbo jumbo list

Then it is only your opinion, and nothing but mumbo jumbo. 😉 😆

Then it is only your opinion, and nothing but mumbo jumbo.

Originally posted by anaconda
you are right you are wrong, no I dont misunderstand anything about buddhism, spiritual beneficial, rebirth karma, and so on. Not only does it seem real boring it sounds more like religion does, a load of crap
Just as I say about yoga, the actual purpose there is to be able to crawl up your own ass if that is what someone desire feel free to practise youga

Do you know about the Four Noble Truths ?

Do you know that Buddhism promotes self responsibility and teaches that you should be your own refuge ?

You don't understand Buddhism, so your position that "it's not for you", or that its "bullshit" is biased and misguided.

You obviously do not understand Yoga either, else you'd know the intense physical and mental benefits which people derive from the practice.

Originally posted by anaconda
as I said earlier I speak only my mind, if I wanted to speak for others regardless if they wanted to or not I would have become either a priest or a politician

You have every right to speak your mind, but you really have nothing valuable to say.

Do you know about the Four Noble Truths ?

Do you know that Buddhism promotes self responsibility and teaches that you should be your own refuge ?

You don't understand Buddhism, so your position that "it's not for you", or that its "bullshit" is biased and misguided.

You obviously do not understand Yoga either, else you'd know the intense physical and mental benefits which people derive from the practice

yes

oh but I do understand and the biased thing here is the that if you dont like it you dont understand it

and again, just because a view goes against something doesnt mean they dont understand it.
Why is it with that when faced with people who reject the idea of like buddhism its always "oh you really dont understand it " and crap like that.
" oh I understand buddhism and the ones who reject it are wrong" 😂 😂 yeah and those who are against christianity really dont understand it cause if they did they be chrisitians 🙄 🙄

You have every right to speak your mind, but you really have nothing valuable to say.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah you did but I got the impression you were implying that Christanity was more consistent than Hinduism.

Yeah so you proved me right. You didnt come out and say it explictly but my suspicions were correct.

Bro one of the reasons why Christanity is more consistent is because the Chruch had a habit of killing off other Christians with different beliefs and putting forgeries in the Bible. Hindusim has more of a history of tolerance thats why it has moe diversity. 😬

The reason Hinduism is "more diverse" (translation: they can't agree on anything) is because unlike Christianity and Islam, they lack a centralized text that lays down ground rules. That's why they dispute among themselves as to whether Ganesh and Vishnu are two different individuals...or actually two different incarnations of the same god.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The reason Hinduism is "more diverse" (translation: they can't agree on anything) is because unlike Christianity and Islam, they lack a centralized text that lays down ground rules. That's why they dispute among themselves as to whether Ganesh and Vishnu are two different individuals...or actually two different incarnations of the same god.

Actually dont the hindus have tha Bagahavid Gita and the Vedas? Furthermore as I stated before the main reason why muslims and christians have a centralized text is because in the past people with different beliefs were killed and efforts were made to create their own version of the Bible and the Quran.

For example you have the apocrypha were the establishment decided that certain chapters werent fit for the bible, some Christians saw the apocrypha as legitimate parts of the bible but these Christians were persecuted.

Originally posted by anaconda
I know enough about buddism to know it aint for me

Good for you.

Originally posted by anaconda

of course it is I dont speak on behalf of others

Yeah but you are very condesending and you generalize alot.

Originally posted by anaconda

no they didnt, the ways of the Vikings was that you were free to believe in whatever you felt like and it was so up here in Scandinavia until christianity was forced down their throaths

Yeah well there you go not all religous people try to shove religon down peoples throats. You probably know that people still practice heathenism today.

Originally posted by anaconda

they preach their ways and trying to recruit people to follow their ways

You know theres nothing wrong with that as long as you dont shove it down peoples throats. Dont political parties try to "preach" their ways?

Originally posted by anaconda

no you forgot to add the first sentence of what I wrote in your quoting there

What was it? You're subjective opinion that you think a belief in a creator is stupid?

Originally posted by anaconda

no I label religions as stupid based on the fact that the main idea behind their belif is, to me, stupid. The fact that some, actually multiple followers of religious ways are ignorant fools, the positive aspect of religions are the followers that keep their mout shut about what they beleive, they keep their faith personal

Nobody is saying that you dont have the right to believe in what you do the problem is that you sound condesending arrogant and ignorant. You're reasons:

1. You think a belief in a creator is stupid. Yeah so what? Thats your subjective opinion why do you sound so superior?

2. You think religon is stupid because they try to shove it down peoples throats. Yeah so what? What about all those people who dont. Do people try to shove religon down peoples throat because of religon or do they do it because they are full of ****.

3. Ignoring the postive contributions that Religous people have made to science. Sir Isaac Newton, Sir Francis Bacon, The Islamic civilization etc.....

Originally posted by anaconda

oh but I do understand and the biased thing here is the that if you dont like it you dont understand it

and again, just because a view goes against something doesnt mean they dont understand it.
Why is it with that when faced with people who reject the idea of like buddhism its always "oh you really dont understand it " and crap like that.
" oh I understand buddhism and the ones who reject it are wrong" 😂 😂 yeah and those who are against christianity really dont understand it cause if they did they be chrisitians 🙄 🙄

Thats not the problem really. You said that yoga is a load of crap, the fact is that yoga is good for you. Nobody is saying that you ahve to practice Yoga but when you come out with stuff like its a load of crap when its not its just ignorant.

Basically all you do on this forum is make smug remarks and basically **** off.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
It's evolution. If you want to argue Creationism/evolution, that's one thing. But if you accept evolution as the fact that it is, nothing I said is speculation. I don't feel like posting entire chapters by evolutionary scientists that show these things in action, but I'm not just pulling it out of my behind.

Well if you dont want to post whole pages thats up to you, but you do realise that im just taking your word for it? Basically all you did is talk about theory and not really explain how its a fact. Im not talking specifically about evolution as a whole but this for example.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I dislike the comparison, because all altruism has its roots in the selfish nature of our genes, which affects our actions on a macrocosmic level. Reciprocal altruism (doing "good"😉 got it's beginnings when rogue strands of "altruist" genes tended to survive better because they weren't constantly at war. Benevolent product, but with a selfish base.

How do you know that for a fact?

Originally posted by DigiMark007

"Atheism leads to selfishness" is very different from "atheists believe the opposite of theists" so you're dealing with two seperate things.

Took what I said out of context there.

Originally posted by DigiMark007

The second one is a generalization. I don't disagree with it, but it will only be true in certain cases. I think I alluded to cooperative meme-plexes last time we had this conversations, and how they strengthen one another, so meme evolution might tend to produce findings that agree with your hypothesis, but not as a certainty.

I dont disagree with that.

Originally posted by DigiMark007

The first one I disagree with simply because I don't think anything is selfish or unselfish. They're arbitrary distinctions. I could say that I think theists are selfish because they need a prescribed religious moral law to act altruistically, and that many do it simply to get into heaven. But I wouldn't be any more right than you.

Right...ok...so what do you do with a statement like that...its not wrong. Ok lets look at some example "Stealing is an example of selfishness", "Theres no such thing as selfish or unselfish", "Murder is an example of being selfish", "Theres no such thing as selfish or unselfish" 😬

Anyway I agree with your last sentence.

Originally posted by DigiMark007

On a more functional level, I have to deal with "Where does your morality come from?" constantly from concerned theists (as do most atheists), so anything is good in my mind that debunks the stereotype that atheism needs to be a selfish philosophy.

Well ok. Remember im not passing my theory as fact. Im just saying this another possible way of looking at things. I think moraility is a very complex subject and I dont think you can be certain of anything.

You know theres nothing wrong with that as long as you dont shove it down peoples throats. Dont political parties try to "preach" their ways?

You said that yoga is a load of crap

Basically all you do on this forum is make smug remarks and basically **** off.

Sorry Alfheim, but that was funny.. 😂

Originally posted by anaconda
yes

yes

oh but I do understand and the biased thing here is the that if you dont like it you dont understand it

and again, just because a view goes against something doesnt mean they dont understand it.
Why is it with that when faced with people who reject the idea of like buddhism its always "oh you really dont understand it " and crap like that.
" oh I understand buddhism and the ones who reject it are wrong" 😂 😂 yeah and those who are against christianity really dont understand it cause if they did they be chrisitians 🙄 🙄

welcome to the party then

In your last post, you gave a vague and general reason why you don't like Buddhism. You argued that it sounds "real boring" and "more like religion does, a load of crap".

You're not being specific, only general, which lead me to beleive that you don't understand it.

And in all honestly, usually when someone doesn't appreciate something else, its Because they don't understand it.

Originally posted by anaconda
you are right you are wrong, no I dont misunderstand anything about buddhism, spiritual beneficial, rebirth karma, and so on. Not only does it seem real boring it sounds more like religion does, a load of crap
Just as I say about yoga, the actual purpose there is to be able to crawl up your own ass if that is what someone desire feel free to practise youga

I asked you specifically, what about Buddhism do you dislike, and you gave me nothing.

So as I said before, so far you have nothing valuable to say. Just a general load of childish bashing.

I asked you specifically, what about Buddhism do you dislike, and you gave me nothing.

I looked into them all and came out emptyhanded, none of them was for me

Originally posted by debbiejo
Sorry Alfheim, but that was funny.. 😂

Dont encourage him...meh.