Mystery Religions and Christianity

Started by BananaKing6 pages
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Obviously, since you've thrown out about 3-4 unfounded generalizations and/or assumptions about them in the past 10 minutes in your posts.

Atheists do think those things about the Bible, otherwise they'd believe it! As the exact thing happens vice versa. They weren't assumptions, and they weren't judgements, that's the way it is!

Originally posted by BananaKing
Atheists do think those things about the Bible, otherwise they'd believe it! As the exact thing happens vice versa. They weren't assumptions, and they weren't judgements, that's the way it is!

Not all atheists hate the bible, and not all people who hate the bible are atheists.

Originally posted by BananaKing
Atheists do think those things about the Bible, otherwise they'd believe it! As the exact thing happens vice versa. They weren't assumptions, and they weren't judgements, that's the way it is!

Judging by this statement, I've decided I won't be wasting much more time with you. But I'm an atheist and can personally say that pretty much everything you've said about me (and "us" if I can speak in a broader sense) is either slightly wrong or completely incorrect.

And the arrogance to think that you can tell others what they do and don't believe is staggering, to state it mildly.

Have a good day.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not all atheists hate the bible, and not all people who hate the bible are atheists.

They don't hate it, they just don't trust it.

Originally posted by BananaKing
They don't hate it, they just don't trust it.

Why should someone?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why should someone?

Which takes us back to the beginning again 🙂 and is why we're supposed to bring people up into the religion, because youngsters usually trust their parents, and if everyone trusts their parents for 2000 years it will save people from going to hell.

But the only remaining reasons why someone should believe in the end, is because:

1. What i just told you. Jesus died for us, only if we trust the Bible.

2. Otherwise people'll either dissappear or go to hell (unless they have a different belief to atheism, then they'll either go to hell or another life etc), which isn't a good reason, but it's the only way.

Originally posted by BananaKing
Which takes us back to the beginning again 🙂 and is why we're supposed to bring people up into the religion, because youngsters usually trust their parents, and if everyone trusts their parents for 2000 years it will save people from going to hell.

But the only remaining reasons why someone should believe in the end, is because:

1. What i just told you. Jesus died for us, only if we trust the Bible.

2. Otherwise people'll either dissappear or go to hell (unless they have a different belief to atheism, then they'll either go to hell or another life etc), which isn't a good reason, but it's the only way.

Only 1/3ed of the world is Christian, what about the rest? Why are you right, and they wrong?

But hell is not a place you go when you die.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Only 1/3ed of the world is Christian, what about the rest? Why are you right, and they wrong?

But hell is not a place you go when you die.

I am right because i trust my parents, and they trusted theirs, and they trusted theirs etc etc, all the way back to when mankind was made.

Your belief in hell depends on if you trust the bible, which you don't.

Originally posted by BananaKing
I am right because i trust my parents, and they trusted theirs, and they trusted theirs etc etc, all the way back to when mankind was made.

Your belief in hell depends on if you trust the bible, which you don't.

What about the Muslim who trusted his parents who trusted their parents all the way back...?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What about the Muslim who trusted his parents who trusted their parents all the way back...?

They even saw Jesus as a prophet!
But they didn't trust him as god!
My religion has more people who trust in it. And a book that has existed longer.

Originally posted by BananaKing
They even saw Jesus as a prophet!
But they didn't trust him as god!
My religion has more people who trust in it. And a book that has existed longer.

I hope you are not telling me that you are right because your religion is popular. Also, the Lotus Sutra is just as old as the OT.

I am right because i trust my parents, and they trusted theirs, and they trusted theirs etc etc, all the way back to when mankind was made.
all the way to when mankind was mad huh?, If that is so you should worship goonie goo goo, cause when man started believing in gods it sure as hell wasnt the biblical god they put their faith into

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I hope you are not telling me that you are right because your religion is popular. Also, the Lotus Sutra is just as old as the OT.

That's not the sole reason why i'm right.

I am saying that Order is the way gods follow, and it explains alot of things about life i don't see in the others religions.

God is Order. Order is control. Control is when god tells us what to do so things go the way that invokes good feelings, without causing bad feelings in anybody else (loving each other etc).

If the god is supposedly in control of the universe, but makes rules that tell you to love yourself over everyone else(to create chaos), then he isn't causing order/control, therefore cannot be real and is probably a demon.

Originally posted by anaconda
all the way to when mankind was mad huh?, If that is so you should worship goonie goo goo, cause when man started believing in gods it sure as hell wasnt the biblical god they put their faith into

And why should i trust your belief? 🙂 could you prove to me right now infront of my very eyes that god doesn't exist?

And why should i trust your belief?
it aint my belief , but your reasoning that led to it

could you prove to me right now infront of my very eyes that god doesn't exist?
god doesnt exist now your turn, its up to the believers to prove gods existence. As of now the ones who says god doesnt exist have the upper hand, the only way I would take proof of a gods existence is if this god joined me at the local pub sipping a beer with me and then showed me its magic/power omnipresence omnipotence as claimed by its followers

I'm flying in Winchester cathedral
All religion has to have its day
Expressions on the face of the Savior
Made me say
I can't stay

Open up the gates of the church and let me out of here
Too many people have lied in the name of Christ
For anyone to heed the call
So many people have died in the name of Christ
That I can't believe it all
-Crosby Stills & Nash

Originally posted by anaconda
it aint my belief , but your reasoning that led to it

god doesnt exist now your turn, its up to the believers to prove gods existence. As of now the ones who says god doesnt exist have the upper hand, the only way I would take proof of a gods existence is if this god joined me at the local pub sipping a beer with me and then showed me its magic/power omnipresence omnipotence as claimed by its followers

So your saying it's impossible to prove god doesn't exist. And you can't prove to me evolution/the big bang etc exists either.

So your saying it's impossible to prove god doesn't exist
no all I need to say is god doesnt exist then it is up to the oposing party to find god, just like I can say that there is no Loch Ness monster, to prove me wrong they need to find it

Originally posted by anaconda
no all I need to say is god doesnt exist then it is up to the oposing party to find god, just like I can say that there is no Loch Ness monster, to prove me wrong they need to find it

I've already found god, i say he does exist now you have to find out if i'm right.

Evolution doesn't exist, now u have to prove me wrong

I've already found god, i say he does exist now you have to find out if i'm right
no, whats inside your head and feelings aint proof, i just your faith, and mans faith aint the same as proof. You can have faith in a presidential candidate aint the same as he/ she end up a president though. So it is with religious belief, hopes and dreams and personal convincing is just not enough, sorry to lay it out like that but it aint more than a hopes and yearnings

Evolution doesn't exist, now u have to prove me wrong
who ever said I was an evolutionist. But I must admit that that theory seems the most plausible even with its holes here and there they sure bring up visible evidence for their theory unlike a certain religion do, but if they are right I really dont know, but if this was a poker game the evolutionist hand looks more like a winner than the hands of the religious ones