Originally posted by lando005
that isnt the point you know as well as i do that the bias will always be in his favor or any other comic character for that matterit may be different if the DB series was written a bit more seriously then people may be able to accept the fact that goku could beat him but because of the way the series was made no one will ever accept it
Obviously some people think he could win, or else there would never be any debate at all.
well, the only one who can put up a fight against PRECRISIS superman is gogeto. no1 else can in my oppinion. pre crisis wins cause he was plot device.
normal superman on the other hand would die infront of super sayin ONE goku. no match there at all.{and for all the people who believe POST crisis superman can beat every dragon ball gt character at the same time, id say , keep dreaming (😉 ). he cant handle super sayin 1 trunks let alone any1 else}
Originally posted by leonheartmmThanks Illadelph. duryes
well, the only one who can put up a fight against PRECRISIS superman is gogeto. no1 else can in my oppinion. pre crisis wins cause he was plot device.normal superman on the other hand would die infront of super sayin ONE goku. no match there at all.{and for all the people who believe POST crisis superman can beat every dragon ball gt character at the same time, id say , keep dreaming (😉 ). he cant handle super sayin 1 trunks let alone any1 else}
Originally posted by leonheartmm
well, the only one who can put up a fight against PRECRISIS superman is gogeto. no1 else can in my oppinion. pre crisis wins cause he was plot device.normal superman on the other hand would die infront of super sayin ONE goku. no match there at all.{and for all the people who believe POST crisis superman can beat every dragon ball gt character at the same time, id say , keep dreaming (😉 ). he cant handle super sayin 1 trunks let alone any1 else}
You mean the tough guys who have never lifted anything in excess of 10 tons?
never lifted over 10 tons????????
right right. well choosing the smallest example. goku weighs over half a ton himself. and he was working out in 100x gravity. how much weight does that make it? oh around more than 50 tons. that was pre super sayin. trunks stopped with a single hand, an energy blast with over 20 times the power to destroy a planet the size of namek. and he was SCHOOLED single handedly{literally} by super sayin 1 goku.
frieza KICKED with a single leg, an energy blast which exploded with an energy wave greater than namek and could destroy namek.
the androids were more powerful individually then all thre sayins combined at the time. all androids + sayins cmbined makes complete cell. complete cell could destroy the solar system. beginner super sayin 2 gohan schooled him. dont even get me started on gt.
not lift 10 tons my ASS. frieza regularly, pre super sayin punched through mountains.
Cell could destroy a solar system, yet he had to destroy himself in order to take out earth?
Cool.
Here's why your logic doesn't work.
Odin is only class 80. Yet everything the Surfer has can't really harm him, nor could Thanos budge him. They easily destroy planets, yet can't make Odin budge.
Now, is Odin stronger than Superman?
goku can instantly teleport. and before you say he cant control himself through reflexes. just remeber him stealing master roshi's glasses WHILE teleporting without master roshi finding out. furthermore, pre super sayin frieza was fighting so fast that even at 10 kilometres away, uber humans couldnt comprehend his movement through their 5 sense sor even their 6th sense of sensing ki.