Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... why would that stop the shield from absorbing the sound? It is directly behind the shield. Sound is just vibrations... they don't stay in one spot. When that vibranium island was blown up the vibranium absorbed all the sound waves from the explosion, its an aoe type thing, they don't need direct contact.
this helps in no way in the debate for Harry Vs Captain America.
Neither does all the bullseye talk.
Originally posted by SeerQris
this helps in no way in the debate for Harry Vs Captain America.Neither does all the bullseye talk.
He wants to know why there is no sonic boom if Cap can throw his shield at mach speeds. Caps shield is made out of vibranium and thus the answer... that is ignoring the fact that this is a comic book and even the likes Quicksilver rarely create sonic booms. It is relevant.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Your compareing Galactus, to adamentium?are you trying to make our argument sound foolish?
Originally posted by SeerQris
Why are we takling about Galactus?I will tell you this. Galactus has cosmic power(which I may equivocate with magical) so maybe i would allow the shield to be broken. But even that is debatable.
Let's stick on topic.
"Nothing passes through other than magically enhanced items."
Also, Galactus has said he doesn't understand magic... he aint magic, sho mean?
Originally posted by srankmissingninBecause in order to absorb the sound the souond would have to hit the shield. If the shield is traveling at super sonic speeds the sound would be too slow.
... why would that stop the shield from absorbing the sound?[/b[]
Originally posted by srankmissingninAnd its also not unidirectional either. 😉 Sound weaves travel out in all directions from a source, and unlike a sponge absorbing water things that absorb sounds wouldn't change the direction of the movement of the sound waves.
[B]It is directly behind the shield. Sound is just vibrations... they don't stay in one spot. When that vibranium island was blown up the vibranium absorbed all the sound waves from the explosion, its an aoe type thing, they don't need direct contact.
So again, proof that he can throw the shield at supersonic velocities, please. Otherwise your claims are about as substantiative as those people who make claims and don't back them.
Proof, please.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He wants to know why there is no sonic boom if Cap can throw his shield at mach speeds. Caps shield is made out of vibranium and thus the answer... that is ignoring the fact that this is a comic book and even the likes Quicksilver rarely create sonic booms. It is relevant.
As is the latter half of this entire debate
Again, there is NO evidence to imply that captain america can Complete Two time consuming actions, before harry can complete a simple thought. Nothing.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He wants to know why there is no sonic boom if Cap can throw his shield at mach speeds. Caps shield is made out of vibranium and thus the answer... that is ignoring the fact that this is a comic book and even the likes Quicksilver rarely create sonic booms. It is relevant.
Agreed then. I apologize for my accusation.
Now back to discussing this supposed speed of Captain Americas shield.
Now, for the sake of debate what stops Harry from teleporting out of the way? Teleportation is instant btw. He could teleport and also put up a shield.
You think Captain America is going to know where Harry is Teleporting to?
I am really not agreeing with you that Harry can't cast one spell before the shield hits him, at their distance. It's a rediculous claim. And I think Cresh has done a great job of showing this.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And its also not unidirectional either. 😉 Sound weaves travel out in all directions from a source, and unlike a sponge absorbing water things that absorb sounds wouldn't change the direction of the movement of the sound waves.So again, proof that he can throw the shield at supersonic velocities, please. Otherwise your claims are about as substantiative as those people who make claims and don't back them.
Proof, please.
But the shield would absorb the vibrations at the point of their creation where they would be compact and close together, before they started spreading out omnidirectionally.
How fast do you think the missile was traveling? One of the few purposes of creating a missile is speed... it would take a leap of faith to assume that thing wasn't going at the very least Mach 1.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
"[b]Nothing passes through other than magically enhanced items."Also, Galactus has said he doesn't understand magic... he aint magic, sho mean? [/B]
Which is why I said its debatable.
Galactus can do other things to get to Harry. It is not about him passing through the shield.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
As is the latter half of this entire debateAgain, there is NO evidence to imply that captain america can Complete Two time consuming actions, before harry can complete a simple thought. Nothing.
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Just how much faster do you think Captain America is then Harry Potter?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Much faster. Fast enough to compensate for a 500 meter distance?.... No
Give me a number here. You don't think Captain America can think about throwing a shield and throw a shield before Harry potter can think. So what... are you assuming he is only twice (?) as fast?
Originally posted by srankmissingninAfter the sheild is already past them you mean? You're not taking into account heisenburg's uncertainty principle of motion versus interaction in your calculations are you? If something is traveling faster that sound then by the time the sound is made that thing would be beyond it.
But the shield would absorb the vibrations at the point of their creation where they would be compact and close together, before they started spreading out omnidirectionally.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWould you care to prove its speed? beyond "faith" and inductive reasoning which does not constitue as proof?
How fast do you think the missile was traveling? One of the few purposes of creating a missile is speed... it would take a leap of faith to assume that thing wasn't going at the very least Mach 1.
An educated guess is still a guess, and I can make a guess based on acceleration of its own mass versus the drag of those trying to slow it down.
So proof, please.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Give me a number here. You don't think Captain America can think about throwing a shield and throw a shield before Harry potter can think. So what... are you assuming he is only twice (?) as fast?
Im confused
Your saying that harry potter cant complete the simple task of putting up a protection spell -- something harry can do in miliseconds?
Whereas cap, must (albeit somehwat naturally) reach back, cock his arm, thrust foward -- then the object must travel a 500 meter distance at an unconfirmed, but fast speed and strike harry -- and harry cant complete 1 action before the aformentioned takes place?
Its just not going to happen.
Originally posted by Harry FingermanThe upper end of the physicality of the sheild isn't exactly answerable. I imagine it'd be intended to be strong enough to keep giants and dragons out, however Galactus far surpasses these two creatures. If it can be done, I believe galactus would be able to break the sheild probably without noticing it.
I'm not even arguing, just pointing out minor flaws.If nothing passes, then I want to see the extent of nothing.
Anyway... God this is a dumb thread... damn Soljer.