Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Give me a number here. You don't think Captain America can think about throwing a shield and throw a shield before Harry potter can think. So what... are you assuming he is only twice (?) as fast?
No one said Harry could think faster. We are talking about total execution time. Shield to Harry's face.
Originally posted by Creshosk
The upper end of the physicality of the sheild isn't exactly answerable. I imagine it'd be intended to be strong enough to keep giants and dragons out, however Galactus far surpasses these two creatures. If it can be done, I believe galactus would be able to break the sheild probably without noticing it.
not only that, obviously galactus is a man of great power
why bother with the shield when he can simply cause harry to implode
and i wouldent put it past him to even break it, debateable sure but you are absolutely right. Galactus clearly has vast knoeldge of magic
Originally posted by Creshosk
After the sheild is already past them you mean? You're not taking into account heisenburg's uncertainty principle of motion versus interaction in your calculations are you? If something is traveling faster that sound then by the time the sound is made that thing would be beyond it.Would you care to prove its speed? beyond "faith" and inductive reasoning which does not constitue as proof?
An educated guess is still a guess, and I can make a guess based on acceleration of its own mass versus the drag of those trying to slow it down.
So proof, please.
A sonic boom is created the moment the obect accelerates past the speed of sound. So, for the moment in time at least, the shield would still be moving at speed comparable to the speed of sound. Vibranium is aoe in its absorption of mechanical energy, so direct contacted wouldn't be needed.
So... what... we need to be given measurements now to make an educated guess on how fast something is traveling? If I see a scan of Spider-man dodging machine gun fire can I say "prove those bullets are moving in excess of mach speeds?"
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
A sonic boom is created the moment the obect accelerates past the speed of sound. So, for the moment in time at least, the shield would still be moving at speed comparable to the speed of sound. Vibranium is aoe in its absorption of mechanical energy, so direct contacted wouldn't be needed.So... what... we need to be given measurements now to make an educated guess on how fast something is traveling? If I see a scan of Spider-man dodging machine gun fire can I say "prove those bullets are moving in excess of mach speeds?"
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
A sonic boom is created the moment the obect accelerates past the speed of sound. So, for the moment in time at least, the shield would still be moving at speed comparable to the speed of sound. Vibranium is aoe in its absorption of mechanical energy, so direct contacted wouldn't be needed.So... what... we need to be given measurements now to make an educated guess on how fast something is traveling? If I see a scan of Spider-man dodging machine gun fire can I say "prove those bullets are moving in excess of mach speeds?"
So you think Cap can cock back his arm, bring it forward, release the shield from his grasp, and have said shield travel 500 meters and hit Harry Potter in the head in under a second?
(I can't believe I just typed that).
Originally posted by illadelph12
So you think Cap can cock back his arm, bring it forward, release the shield from his grasp, and have said shield travel 500 meters and hit Harry Potter in the head in under a second?(I can't believe I just typed that).
LOL
honestly
I literally typed an identical sentence a page back. almost word for word
wierd
Originally posted by srankmissingninThe sonic boom is the sound of the air collapsing to fill in the void of the air that was displaced by the object.
A sonic boom is created the moment the obect accelerates past the speed of sound.
Originally posted by srankmissingninYou're saying that vibranium can absorb energy at a distance?
So, for the moment in time at least, the shield would still be moving at speed comparable to the speed of sound. Vibranium is aoe in its absorption of mechanical energy, so direct contacted wouldn't be needed.
If you're not then yes direct contact would be needed.
Originally posted by srankmissingninIf they are unhindered and they are your average bullet you can usually just use the speed of a bullet as its been recorded in our world. The point pof it accelerating to full speed would be back in the chamber so they would be coming out of the barell at their maximum speed.
So... what... we need to be given measurements now to make an educated guess on how fast something is traveling? If I see a scan of Spider-man dodging machine gun fire can I say "prove those bullets are moving in excess of mach speeds?"
Now stop dodging the issue and give me a proof of a messure on how fast Captain America can throw his speed.
Harry needs only one second to cast his protection spell. Stop the ad hoc arguments of ABC reasoning and give me some direct evidence that proves he could get his sheild to harry's face, with the motion needed to get the leverage to throw the sheild over the distance plus the distance traveled.
Proof, please.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Im confusedYour saying that harry potter cant complete the simple task of putting up a protection spell -- something harry can do in miliseconds?
Whereas cap, must (albeit somehwat naturally) reach back, cock his arm, thrust foward -- [b]then
the object must travel a 500 meter distance at an unconfirmed, but fast speed and strike harry -- and harry cant complete 1 action before the aformentioned takes place?Its just not going to happen. [/B]
Harry can't cast a spell in a milisecond. It takes longer both say or think the spells name... and annunciation is important remember.
Captain America is - what do you think - ten times faster then Potter? At the very least. Imagine if you could move ten times faster then you can now... do you think you'd be able to throw an object before someone said "please don't throw that!" (or something along those lines)? So if Captain America can throw his shield before Harry can react, it comes down to how fast he can throw his shield... and he has thrown his shield fast enough to intercept both missiles and bullets. That's mach speeds.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Harry can't cast a spell in a milisecond. It takes longer both say or think the spells name... and annunciation is important remember.Captain America is - what do you think - ten times faster then Potter? At the very least. Imagine if you could move ten times faster then you can now... do you think you'd be able to throw an object before someone said "please don't throw that!" (or something along those lines)? So if Captain America can throw his shield before Harry can react, it comes down to how fast he can throw his shield... and he has thrown his shield fast enough to intercept both missiles and bullets. That's mach speeds.
To re-iterate previous points:
Harry has to think of the word "Protego totalis
Harry does not have to physically speak the words. Moving your mouth, and thinking a phraze -- difference in time (the latter being shorter, even if marginally which apparently matterse in this corrput scenario)
Harry is standing 500 meters away
Captain america has to focus on harry
Captain america has to cock his arm back
Captain america has to cock his arm foward
The shield has to be released, and cover 500 meters.
Harry does not have to react, he is putting his shield up becuase an assailant seeks to destory him. Therefore he will be pro-active.
And the most important point of all?
Harry is standing 500 meters away.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Harry can't cast a spell in a milisecond. It takes longer both say or think the spells name... and annunciation is important remember.Captain America is - what do you think - ten times faster then Potter? At the very least. Imagine if you could move ten times faster then you can now... do you think you'd be able to throw an object before someone said "please don't throw that!" (or something along those lines)? So if Captain America can throw his shield before Harry can react, it comes down to how fast he can throw his shield... and he has thrown his shield fast enough to intercept both missiles and bullets. That's mach speeds.
I can think Protego Totallum very fast... And I can say it really fast to... How about you?
I mean how long do you think it is going to take harry to think this spell. And on the flip side how long do you think it will take for him to say it, and quickly.