Originally posted by xmarksthespotYou mean he can't? ermmfrown
Captain America likely wins because spells and hexes can be dodged as already mentioned. But define fraction of a second. Because even if I take you to mean .99 s it still means you're under the impression he can throw a shield at Mach 1.5; if I take you to mean something along the lines of .1 seconds it means you're under the impression he can throw his shield at Mach 15.😐
Originally posted by tooa/presence
ok by the time cap lets go of the sheild harry could have said expelliaramos or however you spell it or accio shield or just have thought either one in his mind and the shield would no longer be a factor. then harry would use protego totalum which would protect and conceive himself. Now that he's invisible he sneaks up on cap since he can't be detected and cap doesn't have a spider sense and mutters the crutaceos curse causing cap pain and before cap is done reacting to the pain harry avada kedevra's his ass ftw.
Would the expeliamous work on Cap? Granted I'v only seen 1 films but its 1 thing knocking a wand out of 15 year old hand but to knock a sheild away from a super solider I dno I can see Cap holding onto it...
Originally posted by Sparkz
Would the expeliamous work on Cap? Granted I'v only seen 1 films but its 1 thing knocking a wand out of 15 year old hand but to knock a sheild away from a super solider I dno I can see Cap holding onto it...
magic>raw strength
and besides cap would be getting ready to release the shield so he wouldn't expect it.
and besides that, harry really wouldn't have to even take the sheild away to win. he has other options that could do the job.
As far as why this thread could/should remain open - as has been noted, it's totally within the rules, and it isn't a spite thread in either direction.
Plenty have people have been in favour of Harry, plenty have been in favour of Cap. As I said, Harry's a glass cannon - plenty powerful, but with scrawny-teenage-boy-durability.
If he can tag Cap with a single body bind (whatever the hell it's called), or some other disabling-jinx, he should win. If he can't hit Cap before Cap can close the distance/shield throw half a kilometer, Cap would stomp him.
It just depends on which you think is more likely.
As far as shield charms go, I dunno if Harry'd want to put one of those up. I recall it separating two wizards, and preventing spells from going through. I DON'T recall it preventing a mach-speed shield from going through. Harry'd be disabling himself by not being able to fire a spell through a shield charm dealie.
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Originally posted by Superherovandal
Harry has plenty more options than Cap. he can easily make caps shield useless to him. make his body useless to him with a body bind, levitate him and make him unable to move, put up plenty of protective spells etc. Harry 8-9/10
Indeed. He could do ANY of that - assuming the side of his skull isn't caved in, or his head removed before he gets the chance.
Cap can cover the half a kilometer in about thirty five seconds on foot. His shield could cover the distance a LOT faster. I don't think I specified EXACTLY where they fight, but assuming there is ANYTHING in the general vicinity, Cap could also use a dozen richochets to obliterate potter. I VERY much doubt that Harry would ever see the shield coming - especially if Cap throws it to the side of harry, and has it smack him in the back of the head - thus also elminating the use of a shield charm.
Cap can dodge bullets all day long, without even trying, Harry'd have to get VERY - VERY lucky to be able to tag him with any jinx or curse first, and I don't think I recall Harry ever managing a area-effect spell. It's not like he knows that fiend fire, or whatever it was.
Originally posted by illadelph12
How fast can Cap toss his shield?
Unclear - it's never been directly stated or anything. Fast enough to intercept a hammer throw from thor, fast enough to intercept bullets after they've been fired, fast enough to catch up with an intercontinental missile after it's been fired.
Unless you would rather just entirely disregard those feats, in which case we really have very little to go on. All we really know is fast as all hell, 😬.
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1526/captainamericav302535ux1.jpg
There is Cap hitting a high-flying Helicopter with his shield.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5655/captainamericav302709vk0.jpg
Here is the missile feat.
The shield might be fast but Captain America's arm throw takes more time than the shield traveling. Expelliarmus would disarm Caps shield before he even released it. Then Harry could turn invisible and put protection spells and what not. After Harry does that there is no way Captain America could win.
Originally posted by tooa/presence
The shield might be fast but Captain America's arm throw takes more time than the shield traveling. Expelliarmus would disarm Caps shield before he even released it. Then Harry could turn invisible and put protection spells and what not. After Harry does that there is no way Captain America could win.
lol.
Originally posted by tooa/presence
ha ha i figured. Harry at half a kilometer away would win. It doesn't matter if cap can throw his shield at missile speeds. It would still be enough time for harry to yell protego or something. Besides he doesn't even have to yell the spell, he can just think and mean it in his mind. Thinking is faster than physical reaction. There would be too many ways for cap to lose at half a kilometer away.
... How would Harry have enough time to react if Cap can throw his shield at missile speeds? Thats Mach speeds we are talking about. Ridiculous? Maybe but thats how fast Captain America can throw his shield. Do you think he would be able to get the spell off before Captain America has thrown his shield? Captain America can see bullets in slow-mo, his perception and reaction time are through the roof, he is operating on a level that Harry couldn't even dream off. Captain America will have ample time to judge his trajectory, think about what he wants to eat for dinner, wonder if he remember to look his front door and throw his shield before Harry's mind as even registered that bell signalling the fight has rung. If Captain America was Johny Averageman then sure Harry would be able to get a spell off before he was clocked up side the head by a shield but he isn't, he is Captain America.
Originally posted by tooa/presence
The shield might be fast but Captain America's arm throw takes more time than the shield traveling. Expelliarmus would disarm Caps shield before he even released it. Then Harry could turn invisible and put protection spells and what not. After Harry does that there is no way Captain America could win.
Superhuman reflexes >>>>> 17 year old fed on a poor diet with little exercise reflexes
Originally posted by tooa/presence
The shield might be fast but Captain America's arm throw takes more time than the shield traveling. Expelliarmus would disarm Caps shield before he even released it. Then Harry could turn invisible and put protection spells and what not. After Harry does that there is no way Captain America could win.
You think Harry is going to beat Captain America in a quick draw?
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... do you even know who Captain America is? You seem to be under the impression he is a rent a cop or something.
