Why would this e up for debate, I mean the manga was the original work this is where the story came from, the filler isn't simple as, I mean come on its not like we use Movie feats when debating their comic counter parts is it?
But this thread is the one exception to the rule where you have to use filler because Super Saiyan 4 is in itself filler.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Why would this e up for debate, I mean the manga was the original work this is where the story came from, the filler isn't simple as, I mean come on its not like we use Movie feats when debating their comic counter parts is it?But this thread is the one exception to the rule where you have to use filler because Super Saiyan 4 is in itself filler.
Exactly. Specifying "SSj4 Goku" is the same thing as specifying "Exiles Colossus" or "Age of Apocalypse Nightcrawler." They may not be canon to normal 616 Nightcrawler or Colossus, but the thread itself requires you to use those versions, so you do.
WWH gets pounded down in a flurry of faster than light punches, then gets kame-hame-ha'd into the heart of the sun like he did with Kooler.
Since the thread started specified a non-canon, you go with that version that dodged attacks thrown at the speed of light when he fought the last of the evil dragons. With his eyes closed. That's something even Flash can't do. He was also able to fight at faster than light speeds, aka pre-crisis Superman. On top of that he was able to adapt to attacks from the evil dragons after getting attacked once with it.
Chibi Goku (non SSJ) destroy Sarguros dimension after trapped in it by Bebi´s shadow genkidama (made out of hate)
- Well technicaly it was already falling apart, but he did destroy it.
Also the green cat guysaid that chibi Goku had enough chi to light up consume an entire Galaxy, when he did that.
So if chibi Goku can destroy a dimension, well that pretty much speaks for itself.
Not to mention that SSJ4 Goku (first time) was said to have the greatest chi ever that existed.
SSJ4 Goku >> SSJ Vegeto
-- See that´s about how much sense GT makes, and Hulk wins because WWH is PIS incarnated.
Originally posted by Kutulu
WWH gets pounded down in a flurry of faster than light punches, then gets kame-hame-ha'd into the heart of the sun like he did with Kooler.Since the thread started specified a non-canon, you go with that version that dodged attacks thrown at the speed of light when he fought the last of the evil dragons. With his eyes closed. That's something even Flash can't do. He was also able to fight at faster than light speeds, aka pre-crisis Superman. On top of that he was able to adapt to attacks from the evil dragons after getting attacked once with it.
You got one thing wrong in this paragraph. Superman never in his entire career fought at super speed. NEVER. Superman dont know how to do it and never have shown to fight at any caliber of any dbz character and he never will.
Frieza would laugh at any being in dc or marvel due to there lack of combat speed. There attacks would be in slow motion along with there movement while he can just disappear and never been seen and just wink out in front of them, hitting them with a planet destroying blast.
Originally posted by carver9
You got one thing wrong in this paragraph. Superman never in his entire career fought at super speed. NEVER. Superman dont know how to do it and never have shown to fight at any caliber of any dbz character and he never will.
Superman fighting at high speeds.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/553/supermaninvisible44zc.jpg
Looks like your beliefs are debunked.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Superman fighting at high speeds.http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/553/supermaninvisible44zc.jpg
Looks like your beliefs are debunked.
😆 😆
Now that was funny. To bad superman was fighting nothing but bricks that dont have any kind of sufficient speed. 😆
I want to see him fight in super speed. Thats nothing that chazu from dragonball couldnt do. Goku during a child did better than that. What he did against imperex, to bad spiderman did the same thing to the hulk and juggernaut but spiderman dont have any combat speed either. Also where in the scan does it say that superman was going light speed because i have seen rogue and mimic punch show up in blurrs but does that mean they were moving at light speed. Even quicksilver can pull some of those feats, all of those speed feats but he cant move close to the speed of light.
Youre hilarious. Goku combat speed is so great over superman it is rediculous.
This is combat speed. Do you see the difference. Superman will never do anything like this. Look at it and maybe youll see that superman dont stand a chance. Its short.
Originally posted by carver9Need I remind you of the idiocy you spouted that I debunked?
😆 😆Now that was funny. To bad superman was fighting nothing but bricks that dont have any kind of sufficient speed. 😆
I want to see him fight in super speed. Thats nothing that chazu from dragonball couldnt do. Goku during a child did better than that. What he did against imperex, to bad spiderman did the same thing to the hulk and juggernaut but spiderman dont have any combat speed either. Also where in the scan does it say that superman was going light speed because i have seen rogue and mimic punch show up in blurrs but does that mean they were moving at light speed. Even quicksilver can pull some of those feats, all of those speed feats but he cant move close to the speed of light.
Youre hilarious. Goku combat speed is so great over superman it is rediculous.
This is combat speed. Do you see the difference. Superman will never do anything like this. Look at it and maybe youll see that superman dont stand a chance. Its short.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman never in his entire career fought at super speed. NEVER.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Need I remind you of the idiocy you spouted that I debunked?
You got me. He did fight at super speed in those scans. Thanks alot for making me look stupid.
I did say this:
"Superman never in his entire career fought at super speed. NEVER."
Creshok your a cool guy. I have read a lot of your post on different battle boards. This is about the 1st battle that i ever disagreed with anything that you said but youre still cool with me. 🙂
Originally posted by carver9Disagreed with me? I'm not sure we're really disagreeing here. I was just showing that he has fought at high speeds. Now obviously the Z fighters powers are based off of fighting prowess, where as outside of a few martial arts like kryptonian, Superman basically doesn't use "fighting skills" its more of his own power.
You got me. He did fight at super speed in those scans. Thanks alot for making me look stupid.I did say this:
"Superman never in his entire career fought at super speed. NEVER."Creshok your a cool guy. I have read a lot of your post on different battle boards. This is about the 1st battle that i ever disagreed with anything that you said but youre still cool with me. 🙂
So I'm not sure we're really disagreeing.
Originally posted by Astner
Chibi Goku (non SSJ) destroy Sarguros dimension after trapped in it by Bebi´s shadow genkidama (made out of hate)
- Well technicaly it was already falling apart, but he did destroy it.Also the green cat guysaid that chibi Goku had enough chi to light up consume an entire Galaxy, when he did that.
So if chibi Goku can destroy a dimension, well that pretty much speaks for itself.
Not to mention that SSJ4 Goku (first time) was said to have the greatest chi ever that existed.SSJ4 Goku >> SSJ Vegeto
-- See that´s about how much sense GT makes, and Hulk wins because WWH is PIS incarnated.
What makes u think SSJ4Goku>>SSJVegeto?