Classic Beyonder vs. Kami-Tenchi

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Classic Beyonder vs. Kami-Tenchi

Who takes it?

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Beyonder has better feats, I'm not really going to go into arguing this now, so I'll give it to him.

lando005 Senior Member

stalemate beyonder would most likely try to will kami-t out of exsistance which wont work on someone as powerful as he is.

but i also believe it is implied that fully released kami tenchi is all knowing as well as all powerful he could most likely talk the beyonder down

Goddess Kali Perfection

who is kami tench ?

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
who is kami tench ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenchi_Masaki

it is hinted all throughout the series that Tenchi is the incarnation of Kami(god) or he may be Kami in mortal form

tooa/presence Moderat0r

Classic Beyonder right when the match begins.

shksprtx Cosmic Redneck

I don't know who Kami-Tenchi is, but classic Beyonder was his own universe...

Beyonder FTW...

tooa/presence Moderat0r

Originally posted by shksprtx
I don't know who Kami-Tenchi is, but classic Beyonder was his own universe...

Beyonder FTW...

Classic Beyonder was reality

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by shksprtx
I don't know who Kami-Tenchi is, but classic Beyonder was his own universe...

Beyonder FTW...

Kami-Tenchi = TOAA

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by lando005
Kami-Tenchi = TOAA

And? Classic Beyonder was suposed to be millions of times more powerful than all of existence combined. He was a step above the one above all.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
And? Classic Beyonder was suposed to be millions of times more powerful than all of existence combined. He was a step above the one above all.
it's impossible to be beyond TOAA because he's the end all god if anything classic beyonder displayed power akin to TOAA you cant be more powerful that the most unlimited power in the omniverse

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by lando005
it's impossible to be beyond TOAA because he's the end all god if anything classic beyonder displayed power akin to TOAA you cant be more powerful that the most unlimited power in the omniverse

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Untrue. There are levels of infinity, quite obviously. The Living Tribunal is omnipotent as well - but the one above all is 'above' him.

Pre-retcon beyonder was more powerful than the one above all. Same story.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
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Untrue. There are levels of infinity, quite obviously. The Living Tribunal is omnipotent as well - but the one above all is 'above' him.

Pre-retcon beyonder was more powerful than the one above all. Same story.

not true at all he displayed power akin to him but nothing above him the reason he was call the one above all is simple nomatter how powerful you thin you may be he was always more powerful is is all that was is or ever will be like our god god and LT i jesus, you gonna tell me there is a power beyond god now? also beyonder may have had nearly unlimited power but he lack the knowledge and understanding to go with it which also makes him weaker than TOAA for another reason if beyonder was truely that all powerful then there wouldnt have been a secret war in the first place
also you counter your own argument by saying that there are diffrent levels of infinity as infinity by it's very nature means without limits, saying that there are diffrent levels means there is a limit. People say LT is limitless but that's only as far as that person can preceve him he has his limits and thus not infinite the only one one who is truely infinate is TOAA beyonder is not

tooa/presence Moderat0r

Originally posted by lando005
Kami-Tenchi = TOAA

wrong.

And PR beyonder is not above TOAA. TOAA is called the one above all for a reason.

Mr Master Junior Member

God & TOAA are above and beyond hierarchies,
because they create everything that takes place in the canon Marvel comics we read.

It's like the Artists and Writers have taken the shape of characters in Marvel,
calling themselves "God" (an Artist) and the "Collaborator" (the Writer) I presume TOAA.

And although they themselves are Drawings to us (God appeared on panel in FF#511)
EVERYTHING else in Marvel is Drawings to them, from Thanos/THOTI to Aunt May.

Classic Beyonder is the most powerful being ever imagined by TOAA and drawn by God,
rivaled only by THOTI.

IMO ... based on FF#511:

(TOAA = any Writer from any given Canon story)

(God = any Artist from any given Canon story)

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

From interview and such Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had over the comics.
And there´s also said that he represented Jim Shooter.

So IMO, he would be equal to Jack Kirby in that sense.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by tooa/presence
wrong.

And PR beyonder is not above TOAA. TOAA is called the one above all for a reason.

how is that wrong? kami tenchi fills the same purpose for the tenchi anime/manga as TOAA does for marvel so in the aspect they are the same

other than that i agree with the second part

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by lando005
how is that wrong? kami tenchi fills the same purpose for the tenchi anime/manga as TOAA does for marvel so in the aspect they are the same

other than that i agree with the second part


Prove to us, how Kami, from Tenchi Muyo! Has anything over the Beyonder.
He has no feat that can compare, and the best statement would be that he is the creator of 13 dimensions, where the Choushins only know of 12.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by Astner
Prove to us, how Kami, from Tenchi Muyo! Has anything over the Beyonder.
He has no feat that can compare, and the best statement would be that he is the creator of 13 dimensions, where the Choushins only know of 12.
he is the here all end all for the entire series the equivalent of TOAA for marvel comics and you want proof that he's above the beyonder?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by lando005
he is the here all end all for the entire series the equivalent of TOAA for marvel comics and you want proof that he's above the beyonder?

Let´s compare, he exist in the 13th dimension.
He created a 12th dimension where he put 3 Choushin´s who created another 11 dimensions, in a collection known as a hyper-dimension.

Nowhere is it officially stated that he is the equicalment of TOAA, nor does he have the feats or statements suporting it.