Super Perfect Cell´s Kamehame-ha gauntlet.

Started by Creshosk5 pages

Originally posted by Phenomenol
It is stated that he can, period.
Right, but not shown. All it is is him posturing, trying to psych out the Z fighters. Nothing more.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Cell's power was overthrown by Gohan.
Right and the resulting collision and confrontation should have wiped out the solar system if Cell had been telling the truth. It wasn't.. in fact the surrounding area wasn't damaged that badly.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
The damn Earth was crumbling under their clash and Namek (who is lightyears away from earth) could feel their power.
And yet.. The Earth was just fine.

Nothing more than hyperbole.

Originally posted by Astner
For a time he was the most powerful being in the universe.
And Super Perfect Seru took out more than half of Gohan´s power with a finger blast.

And I don´t know if this count as evidence but according to the Daizenshuu, Kamesennin´s powerlevel was 139 and SSJ Goku (first time reached) 150,000,000

That´s over a million moons already, and about 350,000 earth´s

Goku trained for seven days before reaching Namek, and increassed his power from 12,000 - 90,000

And Goku trained for three years before the Cyborg saga, when warned by Trunks.

So if he can 8 fold his level in a week imagine what he can do in 3 years.

And then we have the one year of training in the Room of Time and Spirit.

Technically it should not be impissoble for Cell SSJ2 state who in normal state was far beyond Goku already.

Great more useless numbers that don't translate ansd are only useful in that world.

You still haven't shown any concrete proof of him being able to destroy a solar system.

Hell Superman took the Mageddon warhead and was fine. That was "stated" to be capable of destroying half a galaxy.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
It is stated that he can, period.

Cell's power was overthrown by Gohan.

The damn Earth was crumbling under their clash and Namek (who is lightyears away from earth) could feel their power.

Oh, Cell stated he could, so it MUST be true. 😘

Do you know how many characters can easily destroy a planet? Gladiator did with his fists. Terrax did with his ax. SS destroyed the planet him and Ravenous were fighting on. Making the earth crumble is a FAR cry from destroying a solar system.

Re: Super Perfect Cell´s Kamehame-ha gauntlet.

Originally posted by Astner
Who how far does he go, they must take the blast to the cheast, they´re not allowed to avoid it.
A knock out count as a pass.

Here´s the Kamehame-ha

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7939/3506187aj.gif

1. Juggernaut
2. Hulk
3. Superman
4. Silver Surfer
5. Superboy Prime
6. Thanos (with all current enchantments and shields)
7. Odin
8. Depowered Tyrant

They all survive & then whoop Cell's perfect ass.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Right, but not shown. All it is is him posturing, trying to psych out the Z fighters. Nothing more.

Right and the resulting collision and confrontation should have wiped out the solar system if Cell had been telling the truth. It wasn't.. in fact the surrounding area wasn't damaged that badly.

And yet.. The Earth was just fine.

Nothing more than hyperbole.

WRONG! The author in that instance is DEFINIING the characters power and Cell's is more powerful than a Solar System.

So what, the damn earth didn't blow up. So what's your point? The physics don't work? Everytime the Hulk and Juggernaut THROW down the planet supposed to get knocked off it's axis? Or what about when Hawkman Hit Superman with the weight of the Earth? Superman only flies a couple of feet and gets KO'D. I didn't see the damn planet being rocked then? There is a reason why comic book writers don't destroy things whenever their is a super battle, becasue everyone would DIE, common sense.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Oh, Cell stated he could, so it MUST be true. 😘

Do you know how many characters can easily destroy a planet? Gladiator did with his fists. Terrax did with his ax. SS destroyed the planet him and Ravenous were fighting on. Making the earth crumble is a FAR cry from destroying a solar system.

Especially when the EArth's "life essence" wasn't damaged. The Earth was just fine after that show down.

They fought in one of those "millions and millions of miles wide and can't possibly exist on earth, but its right over here." places that suffered cosmetic damage. No lava, so they didn't even break the Earth's skin.

Re: Re: Super Perfect Cell´s Kamehame-ha gauntlet.

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
They all survive & then whoop Cell's perfect ass.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
WRONG! The author in that instance is DEFINIING the characters power and Cell's is more powerful than a Solar System.
No... Cell's posturing. Much like the previous characters did. "I can beat you with my pinky! Blargh! you killed me, I was wrong".

No proof that it could even destroy the planet.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
So what, the damn earth didn't blow up. So what's your point?[/]b
He was lying. You have no proof to back up HIS claims.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
[B] The physics don't work? Everytime the Hulk and Juggernaut THROW down the planet supposed to get knocked off it's axis?
No? 😕

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Or what about when Hawkman Hit Superman with the weight of the Earth? Superman only flies a couple of feet and gets KO'D. I didn't see the damn planet being rocked then? There is a reason why comic book writers don't destroy things whenever their is a super battle, becasue everyone would DIE, common sense.
Hyperbole is common sense... You're bordering on fanboyism.

Are you willing to be our first DBZ fanboy who loses all his credibility and becomes a joke like the regular comic fanboys? Cause you have'nt quite reached that point, but you're reaching it. Especially with your double standard attacks you presented in the Superman respect thread.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Scans please?

I am going to show you why you didn't actually read the comics.

here you are, firstly they fought in a the asgard to true a pocket Dimension but the battle was felt through out the multiverse.

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinsethuniverse8gm.jpg

Galaxies being destroyed.

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinseth030qo.jpg

Worlds toppling like anthills.

http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor144129pz.jpg
http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor144137bs.jpg
http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor145033vk.jpg

Galaxies Fall again Odin vs his dark counterpart.

http://img192.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor185172ya.jpg

you where saying don't wanna post every single scan of each fight go read the comic instead.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
WRONG! The author in that instance is DEFINIING the characters power and Cell's is more powerful than a Solar System.

Strange, because in the scan that's posted, it says ""I've gathered enough 'Ki' not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!" Sounds like Cell talking to me.

No... Cell's posturing. Much like the previous characters did. "I can beat you with my pinky! Blargh! you killed me, I was wrong".

No proof that it could even destroy the planet.

What is stated > Your opinion.

He was lying. You have no proof to back up HIS claims.

Nope, The Author is defining his power at that moment. Author > Your opinions.

No? 😕

You simply asked why didn't the planet get destroyed and I gave you a reason why that doesn't happen in comics.

Hyperbole is common sense... You're bordering on fanboyism.

Are you willing to be our first DBZ fanboy who loses all his credibility and becomes a joke like the regular comic fanboys? Cause you have'nt quite reached that point, but you're reaching it. Especially with your double standard attacks you presented in the Superman respect thread.

Oh really? So I guess you failed to address my points which totally disproves your opinions. Cell has the power to destroy a solar system it is stated.

Oh and those Superman scans about the sun eater were from PRE-CRISIS, so it does not count.

There are no real evidence that he couldn´t either.

And why would the Z fighters be more afraid of him if he could destroy the solar system, the planet was enough to kill them.

What seems reasonable is if he was aiming at the sun, because if he destroyed it the rest of the solar system would be sweaped away as well.

When Vegeta fiered a planet destroying blast at Fruiza he simply kicked it away, and no real cosmetcial damage was caused.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Strange, because in the scan that's posted, it says ""I've gathered enough 'Ki' not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!" Sounds like Cell talking to me.

Think about how much the Genkidama that killed Buu much have been capable of destroying since Cells Kamehame-ha with no proof other then himself saying so could destroy a Solar system.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
What is stated > Your opinion.
What is stated=/= evidence.

What is stated=posturing

cell=/=solar system destroyer.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Nope, The Author is defining his power at that moment. Author > Your opinions.
No he's not. he having Cell make an unbacked claim. 🙄

Originally posted by Phenomenol
You simply asked why didn't the planet get destroyed and I gave you a reason why that doesn't happen in comics.
It was a rehtorical question.. he wasn't putting off enough energuy to even braks down far enough to get lava to pour out. Crumbling is not what the earth was doing.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Oh really? So I guess you failed to address my points which totally disproves your opinions.
I knew you were illogical but using the argument form silence fallacy. 🙄 Is just pathetic.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Cell has the power to destroy a solar system it is stated.
Stated but not proven. So prove your claim.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Oh and those Superman scans about the sun eater were from PRE-CRISIS, so it does not count.
🙄 Supressed evidence fallacy is not a valid argument.

Originally posted by Astner
There are no real evidence that he couldn´t either.

Please don't tell me you're actually stating there is no evidence to prove he can't destroy a solar system, so he must be able to.

Originally posted by Astner
And why would the Z fighters be more afraid of him if he could destroy the solar system, the planet was enough to kill them.

What seems reasonable is if he was aiming at the sun, because if he destroyed it the rest of the solar system would be sweaped away as well.

That is him destroying the sun and the sun doing the rest of the work. Loads of other people can do the exact same thing. He CANNOT destroy a solar system under his own power, though, since there is no evidence proving so.

Originally posted by Astner
When Vegeta fiered a planet destroying blast at Fruiza he simply kicked it away, and no real cosmetcial damage was caused.

What does this prove?

Originally posted by Astner
There are no real evidence that he couldn´t either.
Burden of proof is on your shoulders to prove he did. Otherwise the default stance is that he didn't. Its just the way science and debating works.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
And why would the Z fighters be more afraid of him if he could destroy the solar system, the planet was enough to kill them.
🙄 because that's the way these people work. Have you read the manga? Have you watched the show?

Originally posted by Phenomenol
What seems reasonable is if he was aiming at the sun, because if he destroyed it the rest of the solar system would be sweaped away as well.
If the sun didn't just absorb the energy... Do you have any proof from and DBZ scans showing they can take out stars like the sun?

Originally posted by Phenomenol
When Vegeta fiered a planet destroying blast at Fruiza he simply kicked it away, and no real cosmetcial damage was caused.
And you can prove that was a planet destroying blast?

here you are, firstly they fought in a the asgard to true a pocket Dimension but the battle was felt through out the multiverse.

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinsethuniverse8gm.jpg

Galaxies being destroyed.

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinseth030qo.jpg

Like I told you it was a pocket dimension nothing was being destroyed.

Worlds toppling like anthills.

http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor144129pz.jpg
http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor144137bs.jpg
http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor145033vk.jpg

Your second scan does not work but you really don't understand that this is was all in Asgard a pocket dimension? Worlds were n't getting destroyed anywhere.

Galaxies Fall again Odin vs his dark counterpart.

http://img192.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor185172ya.jpg

you where saying don't wanna post every single scan of each fight go read the comic instead.

Sigh, you posting incomplete scans aren't going to help you. Tht again was in a pocket dimension and you really don't understand that all the scans you posted had situtaions that you failed to post.

Try again.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Like I told you it was a pocket dimension nothing was being destroyed.
Funny, the author in that scan is saying that the galaxies are being destroyed.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Your second scan does not work but you really don't understand that this is was all in Asgard a pocket dimension? Worlds were n't getting destroyed anywhere.

Sigh, you posting incomplete scans aren't going to help you. Tht again was in a pocket dimension and you really don't understand that all the scans you posted had situtaions that you failed to post.

Try again. [/B][/QUOTE] Actually fanboy, it states: "Though it appears to be a simple slugfest,it is simultaneously waged on every plane of existence.

And that's in the narration, that's the author saying it. not the characters Long dead galaxies are destroyed.

You're one of the DBZ fanboys that the people who didn't want the integration were talking about.

What is stated=/= evidence.

What is stated=posturing

cell=/=solar system destroyer.

No. when their is no evidence to dispute the STATEMENT overrides your opinions.

No he's not. he having Cell make an unbacked claim. :rolleyes

Toriyama speaks through his characters. this isn't comcis with crappy narration at the side. 🙄

It was a rehtorical question.. he wasn't putting off enough energuy to even braks down far enough to get lava to pour out. Crumbling is not what the earth was doing.

The Earth was crumbling and Gohan even states that he was afraid of the earth from being destroyed by their clash. Not too mention Planet Namek can feel the power of the two lightyears away. You fail.

Stated but not proven. So prove your claim.

The statement is proof enough. Who the hell are we going to listen to, some driviling fool who has an opinion or the damn author who put the words in the characters mouth?. 🙄

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Like I told you it was a pocket dimension nothing was being destroyed.

Your second scan does not work but you really don't understand that this is was all in Asgard a pocket dimension? Worlds were n't getting destroyed anywhere.

Sigh, you posting incomplete scans aren't going to help you. Tht again was in a pocket dimension and you really don't understand that all the scans you posted had situtaions that you failed to post.

Try again.

You take Cell's word as truth yet deny Strange saying the battle is tearing apart the very fabric of the multiverse. confused1

Plus, the WRITER, not the character, states the battle is waged on every plane of existence and galaxies are destroyed.