Originally posted by h1a8
I doubt it. If it was then WWH would have either been punching people into orbit easily or disintegrating people with his punches.And I don't consider that asteroid feat valid since it is very old and PIS by definition.
and why is it pis because you dont want to accept a feat that happened. Well Im going to say superman turning the wheels is pis also.
Originally posted by carver9
and why is it pis because you dont want to accept a feat that happened. Well Im going to say superman turning the wheels is pis also.
I call PIS here because there is no feat Hulk has done to compare and that he shouldn't have done that under the stipulations of his powers (being mad). Meaning, there is no way Hulk was mad enough to become that strong. Hulk was much madder other times and got his ass beat.
Originally posted by h1a8
I misunderstand. Who said anything about bench pressing?
I go by either lifting feats, hitting feats, or wrestling feats to prove the stronger. Mangog has no lifting, hitting, or wrestling feats that put him above Superman in strength. Being stronger than Thor doesn't mean you are stronger than Superman. And durability necessarily has nothing to do with strength. For example, Juggs is more durable than Gladiator and can withstand Thor's blows as well as Mangog can. But is Juggs stronger than someone who can pissingly 3 shot a planet at his best?
Are you saying that Superman has no low strength feats? Come on.
Thanos has nary any lifting feats as well. I would still bet on him against the hulk. Being stronger than Thor doesn't make one stronger than Superman necessarily, but being Thor's dominant physical superior establishes Mangog's own physical level, and said level is a lot higher than Superman's own physical level, as established by his average feats.
Durability has nothing to do with strength, but it has a lot to do with how a physical confrontation would pan out.
Originally posted by h1a8
I call PIS here because there is no feat Hulk has done to compare and that he shouldn't have done that under the stipulations of his powers (being mad). Meaning, there is no way Hulk was mad enough to become that strong. Hulk was much madder other times and got his ass beat.
Every character has a highest feat. That was probably Hulk's best strength feat, save the anti-matter feat. Are we supposed to eliminate every character's best feat because there is no comparable feat, and hence must be PIS?
Hulk getting his ass beat doesn't mean he isn't strong enough to come up with strength feats. It simply means that he is outclassed in other areas. Make hulk as strong as possible, Galactus would still turn him into slime.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Are you saying that Superman has no low strength feats? Come on.Thanos has nary any lifting feats as well. I would still bet on him against the hulk. Being stronger than Thor doesn't make one stronger than Superman necessarily, but being Thor's dominant physical superior establishes Mangog's own physical level, and said level is a lot higher than Superman's own physical level, as established by his average feats.
Durability has nothing to do with strength, but it has a lot to do with how a physical confrontation would pan out.
In what way showed that Mangog was at least twice as strong as Thor? Because people are hypnotized by his durability and size. So being dominate in durability doesn't mean you are stronger. Hell Mangog struggled like hell to lift that sword.
Originally posted by h1a8
I call PIS here because there is no feat Hulk has done to compare and that he shouldn't have done that under the stipulations of his powers (being mad). Meaning, there is no way Hulk was mad enough to become that strong. Hulk was much madder other times and got his ass beat.
So hulk destroying a planet with a punch is a feat that he shouldnt have done huh. What about the feat wwh did, he held a planet together with nothing but pure strength. He actually had one side of a splitting planet in one hand and had the other chunk in his other hand and pulled the planet back together. That takes nothing but pure strength.
Originally posted by h1a8
In what way showed that Mangog was at least twice as strong as Thor? Because people are hypnotized by his durability and size. So being dominate in durability doesn't mean you are stronger. Hell Mangog struggled like hell to lift that sword.
and titus struggled like hell to break out of a box that was created by green lantern that the lantern even stated had the weight of 100 tons but titus still one shotted superman.
Originally posted by h1a8If he did it once then he should be able to do it all the time. Plus you argue powerset alone and if you by the Hulks powers and his anger he wins most of the time due to the fact he only has anger based limitations.
I call PIS here because there is no feat Hulk has done to compare and that he shouldn't have done that under the stipulations of his powers (being mad). Meaning, there is no way Hulk was mad enough to become that strong. Hulk was much madder other times and got his ass beat.
Originally posted by h1a8
In what way showed that Mangog was at least twice as strong as Thor? Because people are hypnotized by his durability and size. So being dominate in durability doesn't mean you are stronger. Hell Mangog struggled like hell to lift that sword.
I believe I have made it clear that my stance is that strength isn't the only factor in a physical fight. If you're as logical as you claim, I'm sure you would follow. My point is that Mangog was shown to be extremely dominant over Thor, and has shown nothing throughout his appearances to say otherwise. That alone places him at a physical level above Superman's average. If you believe that there were other extenuating factors, feel free to prove them.
Originally posted by deadspeak25
Okay well here's another.
What was so special about that post. Darkseid has been getting a** raped for years now. Darksied used to be above top tier but people like batman is making his a** bleed now. I guess he thinks batman batkick has gotten stronger over the years also since he did almost get koed by it.
Simply put, in all the times HV has been used, the number of times it has significantly damaged an opponent anywhere near Mangog is extremely low. Only Despero comes immediately to mind, although I am no expert on HV feats. Mangog has ranged blasts as well as matter manipulation, but I'm simply being realistic in saying that a physical confrontation would likely decide the outcome of this fight.