Darth Bane versus Exar Kun

In their primes: Kun has his amulet, Bane has his Orbalisk armor.

I'm not certain, because 'm not sure if the Orbalisk Armor would block the amulet blast or not, but itf it does I'd say Bane - by the end of PoD he nearly bested Kas'im in a saber duel, in his prime I'd say he could beat Kun. Plus Kun uses a double bladed saber, and Bane knows all the moves of the double-bladed lightsaber. Also, here it says Kun uses Makashi, and Bane is a Djem So Master, and Makashi is weak against Djem So (as seen when Anakin trashes Dooku in ROTS).

What do you guys think?

That's interesting in regards to the makashi part, but in fairness kun's saber is not like kasim's meaning i doubt it would break and also of note if it is true that kun saber-style makashi with double bladed saber is very unique only to him most likely but it is still a close bout.

Exar Kun was a saber prodigy, Bane might have been. Kun has a saber and style completely unknown to Bane, and we saw how Bane reacted to an unknown style. Furthermore, Kun has his amulet blasts and while they are close in the force, Kun has certain sith magic that died with him. Kun owns.

Darth Sexy, how is Kun's saber style completely unknown to Bane? He knew every single technique of the double bladed lightsaber, remember? What Sith Magic died with Kun? Dude, if they were both saber prodigies, and are close in the force, how does Kun own?

Originally posted by darthsith19
Darth Sexy, how is Kun's saber style completely unknown to Bane? He knew every single technique of the double bladed lightsaber, remember? What Sith Magic died with Kun?

Ill try to answer some of it Here's my interpretation of what sexy is saying. His style is an unknown because like your source said he uses makashi but have you ever seen it used by anyone else with a double bladed lightsaber? Some sith magic could have died with him since he was trained by nadd who in turn was trained by Sadow which is a link to the ancients and he really didnt teach anyone what he knew.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Darth Sexy, how is Kun's saber style completely unknown to Bane? He knew every single technique of the double bladed lightsaber, remember? What Sith Magic died with Kun? Dude, if they were both saber prodigies, and are close in the force, how does Kun own?

Exar Kun's saber and style died with him, so what Bane knows is what Kas'im taught him. The use of the saber staff. Bane is very unfamiliar with Kun's blade because Kun wields it like a single blade, and switches intensity randomly. Furthermore, while Bane has demonstrated some sweet force mastery, Kun has demonstrated more.

Originally posted by darthsith19
In their primes: Kun has his amulet, Bane has his Orbalisk armor.

I'm not certain, because 'm not sure if the Orbalisk Armor would block the amulet blast or not, but itf it does I'd say Bane - by the end of PoD he nearly bested Kas'im in a saber duel, in his prime I'd say he could beat Kun. Plus Kun uses a double bladed saber, and Bane knows all the moves of the double-bladed lightsaber. Also, here it says Kun uses Makashi, and Bane is a Djem So Master, and Makashi is weak against Djem So (as seen when Anakin trashes Dooku in ROTS).

What do you guys think?

Your statement about Dooku and Anakin is bullshit. Dooku trashed Anakin in AOTC. Anakins ability to defeat Dooku came from a growth in skill, not because of a Lightsaber style. If your statement is as logical as you attempt to pass it off as being, do you not think Anakin would have defeated Dooku in AOTC?

Darth sith how can kun be using makashi when his attacks are like hammer head strikes? Makashi is a parrying technique not a brutal beating technique like djem so

From what I've heard, Bane should take this.

Once the Sith order teemed with followers. But their rivalries divided them in endless battles for supremacy. Until one dark lord at last united the Sith in the quest to enslave the galaxy–and exterminate the Jedi. Yet it would fall to another, far more powerful than the entire Brotherhood of Darkness, to ultimately realize the full potential of the Sith, and wield the awesome power of the dark side as never before.

http://www.randomhouse.com/rhpg/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780345477361

It's the info given on one of the inside flaps of Path of Destruction, essentially making it fact unless contradicted by a higher form of canon.

Also, if it's really true that Bane possesses armour that makes him physically invincible, possesses the power to blow up moons with ease, and can tap into unlimited sources of force energy, I really don't see how this Exar stands a chance.

Originally posted by nmensfinest
From what I've heard, Bane should take this.

Once the Sith order teemed with followers. But their rivalries divided them in endless battles for supremacy. Until one dark lord at last united the Sith in the quest to enslave the galaxy–and exterminate the Jedi. Yet it would fall to another, [b]far more powerful than the entire Brotherhood of Darkness, to ultimately realize the full potential of the Sith, and wield the awesome power of the dark side as never before.[/B]

Originally posted by nmensfinest

Also, if it's really true that Bane possesses armour that makes him physically invincible, possesses the power to blow up moons with ease, and can tap into unlimited sources of force energy, I really don't see how this Exar stands a chance.

Bane's abilities weren't on the level of Kun. Kun had more dark side techniques at his command, while Bane had more dark side principles. Kun's offensive arsenal would overwhelm Bane.

Dooku trashed Anakin in AOTC. Anakins ability to defeat Dooku came from a growth in skill, not because of a Lightsaber style. If your statement is as logical as you attempt to pass it off as being, do you not think Anakin would have defeated Dooku in AOTC?

Kun had more dark side techniques at his command

and where does it say that Kas'im's double bladed saber technique is different from Kun's?

Kas'im had a saber staff, as did everyone that used a double bladed weapon. Kun had a double blade, with a single blade's hilt, in which he could alter the length and intensity of both beams. That knowledge, along with various sith magic, died with Kun.

Wow. So because Anakin beats back Dooku using Djem So, his style > Makashi with no exceptions? Has anyone taken into account that Dooku is between three and four times Anakin's age as of RotS? No? Didn't think so. Exar Kun isn't an eighty-three year-old man. He and Bane are a few years apart at best, and Kun himself is massive. So considering that Bane couldn't just overpower Kas'im - who never displayed any notable physical strength - he's most definitely not going to just beat down Exar Kun. Not that this matters, considering it's never been stated by a canon source that Kun uses Makashi. He has, however, created an entirely new weapon and most likely created a new style or modified an existing one to suit its unique nature. So no, Bane is not going to know every sequence and attack Kun has at his disposable, and he's not going to strong-arm his way past him.

Faunus, I'm not taking much a stance here once way or the other, but I'm certain Bane is bigger than Kun and extremely strong....In the physical department, I would wager he does have at least a partial strength advantage over Kun-indeed, over most humans.

Although it's true Bane was incapable of defeating Kas'im with sheer strength, Kas'im, I believe, was described as extremely muscular with every muscle perfectly tuned, along with his skill-though, granted, this applies to Kun as well, likely.

As for Kun's weapon: It's extremely difficult to get a fair grasp of the proficiency and effectiveness of the technique since Kun uses it against two people who lack any feats of their own-Vodo and Ood. I'm not disparaging Kun's skill with it-he's certainly highly proficient as a duelist with the double bladed saber and Bane can't know all of his moves-by the same token, Bane's from an era of saber combat more advanced and trained by one of the best, so it's safe to say he could adapt in the duel.

Another problem for kun are those orbalisks, but given he can slice through Mandalorian iron, with enough power, he could probably cleave through them-whether he could do so in time is a bit up in the air.

Another factor ends up being speed and given the lack of proof for speed in Kun's department-anyone correct me if I'm mistaken- but I think the edge goes to Bane there...

All in all, this is pretty up in the air.

Don't forget that Kun's amulets is a factor that will probably come into play too.

Yet the simple fact remains that Kun was good enough to take down his master, who was more than likely the ultimate lightsaber trainer to all of the jedi, while he was a padawan. He was a master of the double blade, and the jar'kai style. This alone should give him an advantage, as Bane got wtfpwned when he saw this style from Kas'im.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yet the simple fact remains that Kun was good enough to take down his master, who was more than likely the ultimate lightsaber trainer to all of the jedi, while he was a padawan. He was a master of the double blade, and the jar'kai style. This alone should give him an advantage, as Bane got wtfpwned when he saw this style from Kas'im.

You will, of course, provide me of course stating Kun wa s a'master' of Jar'kai. A user of it? Certainly. Master? he has once scene of standing with two sabers ignited.

Moreover, Vodo also took down Kun when he was a Padawan and Kun performed a win against a likely surprised Vodo-of whom your idea of 'was the ultimate saber trainer' to Jedi is pure conjecture without much evidence surrounding him.

There was nothing to being 'good' about it. Kun succumbed to the Dark Side and assaulted Vodo without grace or finesse

What do you mean there's nothing good about it? I gues by your logic that means ANakin didn't do anything special by defeating DOoku, he just succumbed to the darkside and assaulted DOoku without grace or finesse.