Aizen Sousuke vs. Superman

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Originally posted by superkronick92
Quick Question, are Aizen's illusions in ones mind or do they manifest physically, like does only the person he's focusing on see the illusion or is it their for everyone to see? So, is it in the mind or physical?

It's hypnotism, he makes your mind create illusions through his Kyoka Suigetsu. Which seems to have an indomitable power of suggestion.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Quick Question, are Aizen's illusions in ones mind or do they manifest physically, like does only the person he's focusing on see the illusion or is it their for everyone to see? So, is it in the mind or physical?

Anyone who's seen his sword once are under his complete control I believe.

As sandai said, it's a complete hypnosis effect that is triggered when the opponent sees the blade. It's permanent, and does not go away even if the opponent finds out that they are under the illusion, and affects all of the senses of the attacked person.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Quick Question, are Aizen's illusions in ones mind or do they manifest physically, like does only the person he's focusing on see the illusion or is it their for everyone to see? So, is it in the mind or physical?

They're sufficiently powerful that it was possible to perform a medical examination on one without the examiner discovering it. They are not in fact physically real, however.

The effect is permanent after a person sees his blade even once.

Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?

Originally posted by superkronick92
Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?

No, not really.

Aizen doesn't need to breathe, Superman won't necessarily see an illusionary world. He will seen one aizen, a fake one. Let's not forget that all Espada+ characters have at least durability comparable to Hercules, Namor and so on. Since Aizen is supposed to be the strongest one, we can only presume that one punch from Superman doesn't necessarily K.O him.

Aizen has MANY ways of harming Superman and seeing as he has mastered all kinds of kidou, no injury should be irreversible.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

He could but Aizen has used his illusions to make himself invisible and create a duplicate of himself immediately. So it would just be one seemingly invulnerable and impossibly fast target.

Since Superman gets basic knowledge however he'll know what Aizen's power is and could certainly try attacking a large area. If he doesn't start with that knowledge Aizen would have a sizable advantage since he's more than capable of hurtinging Superman.

Originally posted by superkronick92
BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?

Seems reasonable.

Aizen must've went to sleep after he created the "dead body illusion" right?

Originally posted by superkronick92
Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?


The thing about Aizen's illusions is that they blend in with real life. Aizen was using his illusions to manipulat people in soul society for over a thousand years, and no-one knew that he was doing anything. Aizen doesn't go for the crazy visions approach, he's far more subtle. His visions stand up to scrutiny too, he was able to make a doctor with hundreds of years of experience and future tech believe that his illusion was a human body even though that person has a couple weeks to examine it, and only was able to come up with a slight suspicion something was wrong. But I would say that the illusions would continue if he was knocked out, but not if he was killed. Also in case you missed the setting, the fight takes place in a populated Metropolis, so Supes can't just nuke everything with hv.

If Aizen was speaking the truth, shouldn't he have access to ALL kidou there are? He can use level 90 kidou without saying the incantation, that is impressive :/

Originally posted by llagrok
Aizen must've went to sleep after he created the "dead body illusion" right?

Thats a good point.

Also shows he doesn't have to be anywhere nearby to use his power.

Aizen rapes supes again and again and again

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He could but Aizen has used his illusions to make himself invisible and create a duplicate of himself immediately. So it would just be one seemingly invulnerable and impossibly fast target.

Since Superman gets basic knowledge however he'll know what Aizen's power is and could certainly try attacking a large area. If he doesn't start with that knowledge Aizen would have a sizable advantage since he's more than capable of hurtinging Superman.

Seems reasonable.

If Aizen does use the illusion that you suggested, Supes could just HV the entire field like he did an army of Doomsday clones.

What if Supes just welded Aizen's sword to its sheath the second the fight started. 😱 since some people think a speedblitz would be out of charater, I don't think that would be since he does that sort of thing to people all the time, like superheating a criminals gun before they have the chance to shoot anyone.

Originally posted by superkronick92
If Aizen does use the illusion that you suggested, Supes could just HV the entire field like he did an army of Doomsday clones.
Originally posted by Akuki
Also in case you missed the setting, the fight takes place in a populated Metropolis, so Supes can't just nuke everything with hv.

You're also seriously underestimating Aizen's durability, speed, reaction time and strength. I honestly doubt that Superman could one shot him, unless he put everything he had into that punch.

Originally posted by superkronick92
If Aizen does use the illusion that you suggested, Supes could just HV the entire field like he did an army of Doomsday clones.

That's Aizen's general fighting style.

As for the DD clones. They were incredible weak compared to DD (Batman took one out with an axe). Not to mention that there are plenty of bystanders in Metropolis.

Originally posted by superkronick92
What if Supes just welded Aizen's sword to its sheath the second the fight started. 😱 since some people think a speedblitz would be out of charater, I don't think that would be since he does that sort of thing to people all the time, like superheating a criminals gun before they have the chance to shoot anyone.

I don't actually have a response for that one.

Originally posted by superkronick92
If Aizen does use the illusion that you suggested, Supes could just HV the entire field like he did an army of Doomsday clones.

What if Supes just welded Aizen's sword to its sheath the second the fight started. 😱 since some people think a speedblitz would be out of charater, I don't think that would be since he does that sort of thing to people all the time, like superheating a criminals gun before they have the chance to shoot anyone.

Well for one reason that would probably backfire, since it would probably just burn off the sheath and leave the sword, and aizen has more than enough strenght to free the sword almost instantly.

Actually I just thought of this, since Superman has x-ray vision wouldn't he see through the sheath thereby putting him under the illusion from the very initial beginning of the match? 😱

Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?

Originally posted by superkronick92
Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?

Stop ignoring all our ****ing posts.

That's like the third time, geez.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?


Didn't you already post this?

Originally posted by superkronick92
Thanks. So lets say, Aizen manages to get out his sword. Couldn't Supes be able to tell, with all the crazy "visions" has, even if he can't get out of the illusion, couldn't he just like, either freeze the entire area, heat vision the entire area, or even suck the oxygen out of the area so Aizen would pass out.

BTW would Aizen's illusions still last if he is KOed or killed?

All of that was answered by llgrok and Akuki.