Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
The Rasengan disabling him is a plot device. He can still use it in vs. battles were plot devices like that don't take effect. As for the Kyuubi even without transforming it still gives him a rapid, a natural regeneration ability. And I don't see how even with Kyuubi he's "barely high", when people like Samus are solidly in the top-tier.

It was breaking his arm. They clearly stated that he can't do it many more times. That's not a plot device, that's a natural side effect of the jutsu. Get over yourself! 🙂

Match Naruto up against Gorgon and he would get killed easily.

No.. he aid that he couldn't use ti anymore since he's used it once before, that doesn't count in a vs. match, though 😬 Naruto can still use it, but if he uses it too many times it'd mess him up.
Besides we don't know if it'll have the same effects if he uses it in Kyuubi form, who can regenerate rapidly. I dunno what you mean telling me to get over yoruself.

Naruto's body can only take so much. That's why it's bad for him to go Demon Fox and get four tails (or is it five) because his body can't take it. The same thing applies to the Rasengan Shuriken. He can heal from it but his body will only take it so much. Kyuubi Naruto with a few tails would be High Meta but just Naruto as he does normally would be lower. Also for Rasengan Shuriken to work he'd actually have to be able to hit the person with it. I don't think Naruto should be at the top of Meta when he's also got people stronger than him also who would be High-Meta in the show.

I know his body can only take so much, but that doesn't mean that he can't use said abilities in combat, he can only use them sparingly, or in an emergency.

In a forum battle sure it would be a valid attack but there is still the fact he'd have to be able to hit the person with it. It would be a one-shot win though against most people he could hit.

Most of the attacks naruto has are very unlikely to hit, considering the fact that he has to do something first. Handseals, focus chakra and etc. Who in the high tier could he beat?

Let's also keep in mind that Kakuzu didn't seem to have any form of enhanced durability. You can't expect a jutsu that worked on him to work on the Thing or Hercules.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Pegasus boots and bunny hood for extra speed, Would it count as midna allowing him to transform into the wolf form or himself?

Controling statues. arrows of light which vanquish evil, rods of ice and fire, plus the medalions from LttP. He can control winds from wind waker. he can control time and teleport with the Ocarina of Time. plus theres the oni/fierce diety transformation of his... Sheild that reflects lasers, sword that can repal magical spells

Fully equipped he is danged powerful

That's word. 👆

And you didn't even mention the different tunics and gauntlets he had in Ocarina of Time. He had silver gauntlets that granted him superhuman strength allowing him to lift approximately 50 foot tall solid stone towers effortlessly, the Zora Tunic that allows him to breath under water, and the Goron Tunic that allows him to survive in the heart of an active volcano. Also he could fire energy blast from the Master Sword (at least up to Link to the Past; I never understood why this ability didn't carry over to the N64 games and beyond).

He could do it in Wind Waker. And IMO one of Link's best gadgets is the cape from A Link to the Past that granted him intangibility.

i think link with all his weapons should be high mid tier

Herald I would say.

Lets recap shall we:

Intangibility
Temporal invulnerability
super speed
teleportation
godly stamina
time travel
morphing into aquatic, magma, plant beings with different abilities each
shield that deflects energy/magic blasts
ability to travel between dimensions with the mirror
increase his size to gigantic levels with the giant mask
ability to revive himself at the very least 4 times
With the Fierce Deity Mask he can just sit back and fire magical blasts as long as he wants.
etc. etc. etc.

Most of the attacks naruto has are very unlikely to hit, considering the fact that he has to do something first. Handseals, focus chakra and etc.

Actually almost none of his attacks need handseals. The Rasengan doesn't require a hand seal and neither does Kage Bushin.

Who in the high tier could he beat?

Samus. Samus is a high-tier.. for what reason? He could defeat her without even really trying.. And I'm a Samus fanboy.

Let's also keep in mind that Kakuzu didn't seem to have any form of enhanced durability. You can't expect a jutsu that worked on him to work on the Thing or Hercules.

Your right, I doubt the rasengan shuriken would damage them too much (Though, imo, it would do at least something, because it targets and attacks your cells. ). However his destructive capabilities rival that of people like Iron Man, who is considered to be up there in power, compared to a lot of the non-cosmic Humans.

Rasengan Shuriken does NOT put him on the same level as Iron man.

I wasn't referring to Rasengan Shuriken 😐

See, this is what I was talking about earlier. Do we have any predetermined criteria for placement within certain levels?

It's supposed to be placement based upon the characters abilities, offensive output, and defensive capabilities, not simply "popularity". The issue is that the placements are being determined unchecked. There needs to be more evidence presented that displays why the character stands where they do, and debates on the tier appointments. There needs to be some form of opposition for balance.

It's kind of hard to decide really.

Gravity is apparently non-existent in the naruto verse :/

There are a lot of crazy anime/manga universes who have their own set of rules and such, which makes it almost impossible to compare them to comic book characters.

Comics have some very cartoonish physics themselves.

A particular Icon comes to mind.

Originally posted by illadelph12
It's supposed to be placement based upon the characters abilities, offensive output, and defensive capabilities, not simply "popularity". The issue is that the placements are being determined unchecked. There needs to be more evidence presented that displays why the character stands where they do, and debates on the tier appointments. There needs to be some form of opposition for balance.

Agreed General Mod.

I have posted enough evidence to calculate KOS-MOS at her weakest to be herald. With the Tertiary Weapon system she can wipe out galaxies out of existence. Which is why I nominated her for trascendant at her strongest. If you guys need more evidence just let me know because I have plenty of it.

Popularity should not be the deciding factor at all.

Originally posted by llagrok
It's kind of hard to decide really.

Gravity is apparently non-existent in the naruto verse :/

There are a lot of crazy anime/manga universes who have their own set of rules and such, which makes it almost impossible to compare them to comic book characters.

Law of Metaphysical Irregularity
The normal laws of physics do not apply.

Law of Differentiated Gravitation
Whenever someone or something jumps, is thrown, or otherwise is rendered airborn, gravity is reduced by a factor of 4.

The more evidence the better.

Placements based on hearsay will always be hollow.