Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Here's the bump:

Originally posted by Omega Vision

Now time for some arguments in favor of a few of my proposals.

Firstly is Archimonde the Defiler from Warcraft III who I believe is Elite Meta.

My reasoning for his placement as an Elite Meta:

Durability:
When the Demigod giant stag Malorne tried to gore him with his horns the stag was unable to even scratch him. And we're talking about a gigantic elk that was able to trample over entire armies of demons.

When he finally died it took the sacrifice of thousands of wisps to take him down and in the process an entire region was destroyed in the explosion, including the enormous World Tree at Hyjal.

Strength:
Him snapping Malorne's neck is a pretty uber feat and judging by his size its safe to say he's at bare minimum in the Class 70 area, most likely Class 100+.

Telekinesis:
He "force crushed" an adult dragon with utter ease.

Destructive power:
He destroyed the city of Dalaran with one spell, a city protected by mighty mystical wards. He can also kill enemies with a ray called the "finger of death" that turns the target inside out.

Now I won't go so far as to say he's Low Herald but he could definitely give a lot of Low Heralds a good fight, maybe even beat some of them.

Ronon Dex is a Satedan warrior from the series Stargate Atlantis. I'm arguing for him to be placed in Mid Street.

My reasoning:
Skill:
He effectively stalemated Teal'c when they met. Considering Teal'c is a Jaffa warrior with Peak Human strength and a hundred years of combat experience that's incredibly impressive.

Strength:
Starting at 5:20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoIGxp8vd58
Steven Caldwell has been infected by a Goa'uld symbiote which in his own words gives him the strength of many men.

Ronon quips: "So it'll be a fair fight."

Also of note is his incredibly high pain threshold which allowed him to be fed upon by a Wraith (an agonizing process) without screaming out in pain, which is the reason he was made a "Runner".

Kevin Uxbridge is a Douwd from the series Star Trek TNG, a member of a race of energy beings with vast psychic powers and a talent for illusions. I believe he should be placed in the Skyfather tier, here is my reasoning:

Raw power:
When the planet he had chose to live on was attacked by a malevolent alien race known as the Husnock the entire colony was annihilated and the people wiped from the planet's surface after a valiant but useless struggle. Kevin could have easily destroyed the Husnock attackers but was constrained by his species's moral code. However when his wife was killed fighting the Husnock Kevin lost control and in his words:
"I didn't kill just one Husnock, or a hundred, or a thousand... I killed them all... all Husnock... everywhere."

With but a single angry thought he annihilated a species that was estimated at 50 billion beings who were scattered across multiple solar systems.

Other powers:
Afterward he used his power to create a sentient construct of his wife who for all intents and purposes was the same woman that had died in the Husnock attack.

When the Enterprise started snooping around his planet he (again with just a thought) created a ship that was able to automatically match or exceed anything the Enterprise could do and force them to retreat.

He also passively mindraped Deana Troi to keep her from discovering the truth with her empathic powers.

The only limit he seemed to have was that he was constrained by conventional space-time (unlike the Q) and had a "true form" unlike the Q. Still aside from his moral code that was his only shown limitation.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm tired of quoting myself. Everything that I mentioned I have provided proof. I'm not begging you to believe me. I know what happened so I am leaving it at that.
i never really disagreed with you 😕

i called your post's spam, 'cause there were about 50 of them in a matter of 30 minutes.

Where do we put Dayman and Nightman?

from 'Always Sunny'?

YouTube video

Of course.

Well, check the lyrics...

Dayman is a master of karate and friendship... for everyone! i think that at least gets him to mid-Street.

Nightman, i think all he does is go after little boy's holes.

And he can sundip!

Oh snap, he's the 'Champion of the Sun'... dunno what exactly that entails but it sounds badass. Dayman is definitely high-Meta.

Aizen must certainly rank up now after the hogyoku upgrade.

Dayman is skyfather

0:00-0:02 He has his own world of darkness
0:08-0:10 High chemical resistances
0:16-0:20 High TP resistance
0:33-0:36 He's the champion of the sun
0:36-0:39 Vast MA skills
0:39-0:41 Encouraging aura
0:44-0:46 Sonic scream

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Dayman is skyfather

0:00-0:02 He has his own world of darkness
0:08-0:10 High chemical resistances
0:16-0:20 High TP resistance
0:33-0:36 He's the champion of the sun
0:36-0:39 Vast MA skills
0:39-0:41 Encouraging aura
0:44-0:46 Sonic scream

👆

Originally posted by carver9
I'm referring to standard Wonder Woman, she is mid to high herald and that Wonder Woman only possess a lasso.

No matter what Hulk has done, he is still one dimensional so why is he a low herald.

How can Nappa be a low to mid herald but Broly is only a high herald when overall Broly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nappa?

The difference between low-herald and high-herald is quite big. I would put (using DBZ canon) most people before Cell Saga at low-mid herald, and then in high pretty much every one else. Most of the reasons for not "stacking" powerlevels through tiers have been said before, either having plain powerlevels, or unmessured feats (barring energy blasts, most DB punches are next-to-impossible to messure), or unexplained (active/passive durability) or simply they stack but the difference is not huge when it comes to herald's standard durability/speed/strength.

I've been trying to discuss how the DB characters should fit into the list, without changing the entire propose of the list itself. I don't care about talking about individual matchups but finding feats, consistent or not, that can make them fit without changing -too much- the rules we have used until now.

I think we need to put Afro Samurai & Jinno in Elite Street.

I agree with Afro Samurai to Elite Street.

For those that don't know, Jinno is Afro Samurai's friend/foe (dude that rocks the Teddy Bear shaped Darth Vader-esque respirator).

He may actually count as a low meta given he's cybernetically enhanced.

i nod Afro to Elite-Street.

though, i'm still not sure what the differentiation is between high and elite... where's that updated list.

Originally posted by marwash22
i nod Afro to high-Street.

You mean Elite?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You mean Elite?
you're too quick. 😠

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ronon Dex is a Satedan warrior from the series Stargate Atlantis. I'm arguing for him to be placed in Mid Street.

My reasoning:
Skill:
He effectively stalemated Teal'c when they met. Considering Teal'c is a Jaffa warrior with Peak Human strength and a hundred years of combat experience that's incredibly impressive.

Strength:
Starting at 5:20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoIGxp8vd58
Steven Caldwell has been infected by a Goa'uld symbiote which in his own words gives him the strength of many men.

Ronon quips: "So it'll be a fair fight."

Also of note is his incredibly high pain threshold which allowed him to be fed upon by a Wraith (an agonizing process) without screaming out in pain, which is the reason he was made a "Runner".

i nod this. He's the only one I'm familiar with, but the rest seems legit... I'd need to fact-check to nod it though 😖hifty:

Originally posted by marwash22
you're too quick. 😠

i nod this. He's the only one I'm familiar with, but the rest seems legit... I'd need to fact-check to nod it though 😖hifty:


Thanks.

I recommend you watch the episode of Star Trek TNG that features Kevin, next to the episode "Darmok" its one of my favorites.

Anyone who thinks that Freeza could best Thor or Thanos is either an idiot or unknowledgable about one of the characters Carver.

End-game DBZ characters are not even approaching lightspeed, they would be absolutely bitched in terms of physical strength by even Wonderwoman, let alone high class 100s like Superboy Prime, and in terms of durability it is shown that they cannot stop nor can they take a planet destroying attack, at least one on the level of Kid Buu's.

Also, seriously, Pyron for Skyfather, YOU MUST ALL AGREE WITH ME.

Pyron is able to simultaneously shrink and teleport entire constellations to his person for use in combat (Note this was on his mortal, self-limited form), he is massively FTL, able to traverse the universe in relatively short amounts of time (He went from the farthest reaches of the universe in 3 years I believe it was), at his full size he dwarfs the Andromeda galaxy, which makes him much larger than the Milky Way, and he has a galaxy of planets he has assimilated that orbits him, the galaxy is four times the size of the Milky Way.