Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Started by Wei Phoenix307 pages

Well here are some feats from SJ. Low Meta may be right, but once again I'm not the best at gauging the levels so you all decide, so far I'm agreeing with him. I don't see Jack as high meta (I may be wrong)

Originally posted by NemeBro
Jack with one hand can effortlessly block bullets fired from gatling guns.

He is easily the most skilled here, having trained in multiple forms of weapon combat and H2H.

He is also quite strong, able to block and parry the Scotman's attacks, who lifted and ran with a tank, and then threw it.

Aku isn't really slow dude, even his "human" form in that one episode was able to keep up with Jack, and as seen in said episode Aku can amp his strength. And Aku has no vital organs, he has been stabbed through the head and remained alive, it would seem that killing Aku is more a matter of how many times he is cut.

Jack beat an entire army of robots.

Jack is fast enough to slash and kill multiple attackers without even appearing to move.

Also, Jack can jump hundreds of feet in the air like Inuyasha.

Jack solos Inuyasha and kills Kenshin for lulz.

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
You forgot the one where he survived atmospheric entry, brushed off being crushed by a 600 ton sumo, and is fast enough to defeat a group of enemies before a drop of water hits the ground.

considering people want to put the Kyuubi in high-Meta, Jack needs to be below that tier. low-Meta seems about right.

Jack would eviscerate the Kyuubi. He is able to defeat Aku, and Aku makes the Kyuubi look like a minor spirit in comparison, not even counting the fact that Jack has defeated a legit universal threat in Chronos.

Sorry for ignoring you Wei, I saw your post, but forgot it after it was bury.

I would consider him maybe even high metahuman.

Let us cover strength first.

Jack is capable of running while carrying 10-20 ton boulders, and jump great distances with him. He as Wei showed from my post was also able to block and parry attacks from the superhumanly strong Scotsman. He was able to push a 600 ton sumo (No seriously) from crushing him and crawl out from under him.

In terms of speed, Jack is capable of effortlessly blocking gatling gun fire with only one hand on his sword, he is able to kill a group of mercenaries without even seeming to have left his seat, and has done the same only in this case it was before drop of water hit the ground, also mentioned in Wei's post.

As for durability, he survived atmospheric re-entry. Yeah, so he is pretty durable.

He is an extremely skilled fighter and all-around a perty skilled guy, he is a master in H2H combat and with many weapons, being trained by many in various disciplines of combat.

His sword however is his greatest weapon, it can essentially cut through virtually everything, the exception being specially enchanted metals such as the Scotsman's sword, even Aku, who is for all intents and purposes intangible to normal assaults, is easily cut by Jack's sword.

Why I believe Aku should be Mid Herald:

Origin:
He was originally born from a small fragment of an evil cosmic entity, a primal force of living darkness that the three Skyfathers of Earth (Rama, Ra, and Odin) united to defeat. They succeeded and the evil was beaten back but in the confusion of battle they missed a tiny fragment that began to drift through space for untold aeons.

When this tiny fragment landed on Earth it was the event that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, giving a good idea of just how powerful Aku can be.

Eyebeams:
After gaining sentience Aku attacked a village in feudal Japan, disintegrating buildings with his eyebeams.

Invulnerability: So far only three things are known to be capable of stopping him or harming him: Jack's sword, the Elemental guardians, and the Gods themselves.

Healing factor: he can regenerate immediately from any "injury" sustained due to a normal weapon and while his HF seems to be less potent when it comes to dealing with Jack's sword he can still regenerate over time from those wounds as well.

Strength: he can easily strength amp.

Shapeshifting: he's a master shape-shifter with his only limitation being that whatever shape he takes the primary colors of red, black, and green remain. He also possesses incredible size manipulation powers.

Clairvoyance: while not Omniscient there is little that Aku cannot see on Earth and his sight extends even beyond Earth to a point.

Time manipulation: obviously.

Scope of power/tk: Aku can either travel inter-stellar distances or he can reach out across interstellar distances given the fact that he once drained the oceans of another world knowing full well the aliens would have to turn to him for help.

Why I believe Charles Foster Offdensen should be Mid Street:
Skill:
He engaged a serial killer/assassin who was considered to be an equal (or superior) to one of the finest special forces operatives in the military in hand to hand combat. Despite the fact that said assassin was much larger and more imposing than him he defeated him by snapping his arm, stabbing him with his own knife, and kicking him into a frozen river.
http://video.adultswim.com/metalocalypse/dethklok-vs-the-tribunal.html
Starts at 0:30.

As seen here he's also a pretty good fencer:
http://video.adultswim.com/metalocalypse/the-branding-ceremony.html
Starts at around 0:50

Durability:
When ambushed by the same assassin in a later episode he was punched many times and then tossed out of the window. He fell down two stories and landed on his feet, unharmed.

Later he survived a high speed crash from a hover-bike and then survived a savage beating at the assassin's hands, faking his own death for reasons yet to be revealed.

I would agree with Aku, he was also able to travel to another planet from Earth in a matter of moments, so he at least has FTL travel.

I agree with Charles as well.

I guess here's where we stand for the next update:
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(Votes/Still in discussion)

Skyfather:
Dark Schneider (2), Kevin Uxbridge (the Dowud) (2), Pyron (4)*

Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent):
Dark Schneider (1) , KOS MOS (2), Ideon (1), Belldandy (1), Pyron (1), Sargeras (1), Cthulhu (1), Orihime Inoue (Bleach) (1),

Elite Herald:
Broly (1), Hatchyack (1), Frieza (1), Perfect Cell (1)

High Herald:
KOS MOS (3)*, Alucard (1), Kain from Legacy of Kain (1) Dark Scneider (1), Pyron (2), Guyver Dreadnaught (1), Nono Diebuster (4)*, Naruto(1)

Disputes: Alucard (1), Kain (1),

Mid Herald:
Alucard (1), Kelthuzad (1), Kain from Legacy of Kain (2), Lina Inaverse (1), Anubis and Jehuty (1), Aku (2), Voltron [Lionforce](1), Illyria [Full Power](1), Neo (2) Nappa (1), Goku (1), Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (1), Broly (1), Ultimate Gravion (1)

Disputes: Voltron (2), Alucard (1), Kain (1), Kenshiro, Kel'Thuzad (1), Neo (1), Nappa (1), Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (2)

Low Herald:
Alucard (1), Darth Nihilus (3)*, Ganondorf (3)*, Gouki (1, Kratos (3)*, KOS MOS (Weakest)(2), ), Mega Man (1), Rugal Bernstein (1), Master Asia (2), Sephiroth (3)*, SDF-1 (Macross)(1), Hancock(1), Kenshiro (2), Adria [SG1](1), Lucy (Elfen Lied) (1), Mr Selactia (1), Lich King (1), Mew-Two (5)*, Dark Samus (2), Edward Elric (1), Akira (2), Nappa (1)

Disputes: Mega Man (2), Kenshiro (2), Alucard (1)

Elite Meta:
Archimonde [Warcraft III](1), Megaman X (1), Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (1), Tekkaman Blade (2), Nappa (3)*

High Meta:
Sora [Kingdom Hearts](2), Cutie Honey (1), Rugal Bernstein (1), Aizen Sousuke (2), Mega Man (4)*, Naruto (2), Gouki (2), Sephiroth (2), Hayabusa (all equip) (1), Naruto (1), Master Asia (2). Dante (DMC) (1), Samus (3)*, Guyver (2), Crocodile (2), Dio Brando (1), K' (1), Kain(1), Skull Knight (2), Veritech Fighter (Macross)(1), Rob Lucci (1), Kenshiro (3)*, Alucard (1), The Beast(2), Glorificus (1), Shao Khan (1), Aang (Avatar State)(1), Raiden (1), Walter Dornez (1), Neo (1), Rand Al'Thor (1), Illidan Stormrage (1), Galvatron (3)*, Megaman (1), Finn (Adventure Time) (1),

Disputes: Naruto (2), Against K (1), Samus Aran (1), Walter Dornez (1)

Mid Meta:
Legato (2), Seras (3)*, Cutie Honey (1), Aizen Sousuke (2), Sephiroth, (1), Mega Man (2), Link (4)*, Alucard (2), Ryu Hayabusa (1) Naruto (2) K' (1), Itachi Uchiha (3)*, Dante (DMC)(3)*, Alita (2), Recca (1), Kain (3)*, Goku (Base Form)(3)*, Agent (Crackdown, Max Stats)(1), Mr. Incredible (2), Master Chief (1), Samus Aran (1), Hercules [Disney](1), Mace Windu (1)[Change], Paladin Anderson (1)[Change], Illyria(1), Alex Mercer(4)*, Harry Potter (3)*, Hans Gunsche (1), Firelord Ozai (1), Kel'Thuzad (1), Kessler (2), Inuyasha (1), Sing (1), The Beast (1), Edward Elric (1)

Disputes: Alucard (1), Alex Mercer (1), Goku (base form) (1)

Low Meta:
Ryu Hayabusa (3)*, Alita (BAA) (1), Vash the Stampede (3)*, K' (4)* , Gara (BASTARD!!) (1), Dune Freman (1), Ed (FMA)(2), Killua (1), Caerula Sanquis (1), Kenshiro (2), Afro Samurai (2), Rurouni Kenshin (3)*, Master Chief (2), Paladin Anderson (1), Samurai Jack (3)*, Kull Warriors (SG1) (1), Mace Windu (1) , Lu Bu (2), Makoto Shishio (2), Caerula (1), Edward Elric (1), Alex Mercer (2), Jason Vorhees (2), Sing (1), Phantom Limb (1), Thrall (1), Space Ghost (2), Mario (2), Bowser (2), Guts (1), Batou (1), Motoko Kusanagi (GITS)(1)

Disputes: Alex Mercer (1)

Elite Street:
Brock Samson (1), Afro Samurai (3)*, Jinno (1), Samurai Jack (1)

High Street:
Spike Spiegel (5)*, Cyrano d’Begerac (2), Dune Sardaukar (1), Lone Wolf and Cub (1), Dune Fremen (1), Data (2), Boba Fett (1), Brock Sampson (3)*, Jubei [Ninja Scroll] (1), Buffy the Vampire Slayer (3)*, Angel(3)*, Spike (2), Boba Fett(1), Sgt. Cortez [Timesplitters](1), Bushido Brown (1), Molotov Cocktease (1), Black Mask (1), Kurgan (Highlander) (1),

Mid Street:
Chewbacca (3)*, Worf (2), D’Artagnian (2), El Zorro (2), Alan Quartermain (2), Dune Sardaukar (1), Charles Gunn(1), Charles Foster Offdensen [DethKlok](2), Athos (1), Porthos (1), Aramis (1), Ronon Dex (2), Huey Freeman (1), Teal'c (Stargate SG1) (3)*

Low Street:
Lone Ranger (1), Athos (2), Porthos (2), Aramis (2), Blondie (2), Sly Cooper (3)*

Disputes: Three Musketeers (1)

Notes:

* = Enough votes for placement (3+)

Originally posted by NemeBro
I would agree with Aku, he was also able to travel to another planet from Earth in a matter of moments, so he at least has FTL travel.

I agree with Charles as well.


Sweet. 👆

you can change that Orihime nom from Skyfather, to low-Herald.

I nod Aku to mid-Herald.

And I'll nod Voltron for Mid Herald.

Gonna post some Voltron support. Here's a short clip of Voltron being able to take on a Robeast (Robeast's being Godzilla-esque monsters conjured by a sorceress using magic and technology) with the added power of invisibility. Not the Robeast is able to effortlessly crush buildings in it's hands and manhandle the individual lions until they are able to pinpoint it and attack. Also shows some of the scanner tech the Lions have:

YouTube video

*edit

I also propose Lion-O and Panthro (from Thundercats) to Mid Meta and B.P. Vest [C.O.P.S.] to High Street.

Orihime being any higher than Low-Meta is... baffling.

Orihime, to low-Meta?

lulz. She can bring people back to life, from nothing. She can restore or completely deny any change that happens to someone. Her healing abilities are rivaled by no one and the only thing holding her shielding and attack power back is a mixture of CIS and PIS.

She's a complete glass cannon and isn't anywhere close to being the strongest shown character in Bleach. Anyone who could attack from more than one direction, could attack her indirectly, or is just flat-out faster than she is would utterly destroy her.

Where should Gandalf the White fall?

I know based on implied power (even as Gandalf the White he was at a fraction of his full potential as a Maiar) he's probably Elite Meta but based on feats I'd say he's a Mid to High Meta.

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
She's a complete glass cannon and isn't anywhere close to being the strongest shown character in Bleach. Anyone who could attack from more than one direction, could attack her indirectly, or is just flat-out faster than she is would utterly destroy her.

dude...

duh!

I never once claimed that she has any type of natural resistance to damage or pain, or that she has a HF, or that she has any fighting ability whatsoever. However, the power she does have, is herald level.

Edward Elric has absolutely no resistance to damage, you wanna penalize him as well?

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
She's a complete glass cannon and isn't anywhere close to being the strongest shown character in Bleach. Anyone who could attack from more than one direction, could attack her indirectly, or is just flat-out faster than she is would utterly destroy her.

I don't think you need to have invulnerability to be higher than Low Meta.

Zatanna is arguably a Glass Cannon (less glassy than Oriheme perhaps) but she's considered High Herald.

Zatanna's also got the feats to back up her ranking. Orihime's "healing"/time power is really the only thing she has as both Tsubaki and the shield are either weak as hell or never been tested against against anything worth a crap. Aizen being in awe of her bringing Grimmjow's arm back just doesn't cut it for me.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think you need to have invulnerability to be higher than Low Meta.

Zatanna is arguably a Glass Cannon (less glassy than Oriheme perhaps) but she's considered High Herald.

that's all I'm trying to say. A charaters defects can only be held against their placement in a higher tier, it can't be used to negate the power's they do have.

If a normal housefly had the ability to bring people back to life, it would be a herald level housefly... even though you could crush it with little effort.

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
Zatanna's also got the feats to back up her ranking. Orihime's "healing"/time power is really the only thing she has as both Tsubaki and the shield are either weak as hell or never been tested against against anything worth a crap. Aizen being in awe of her bringing Grimmjow's arm back just doesn't cut it for me.
it doens't matter who's impressed by it, fact reamins, the girl can bring people back from the dead. 😬

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
Zatanna's also got the feats to back up her ranking. Orihime's "healing"/time power is really the only thing she has as both Tsubaki and the shield are either weak as hell or never been tested against against anything worth a crap. Aizen being in awe of her bringing Grimmjow's arm back just doesn't cut it for me.

Fine. It doesn't change the fact that a character doesn't need a certain degree of natural invulnerability to be considered above Low Meta.

Phoenix Jean died from a heart attack/Stroke. Let's move her to Elite Street.

Doctor Strange is just a human without putting spells up. Mid Street. 😛