thanos,kain(legacy of kain)vs darkseid,ganondorf(legend of zelda)

Started by Aqua-pimp3 pages

Mjolnir has the power to destroy planets???wtf 😕 Well show me some scans to back up these claims..I'f you'd played defaince 6 times then so should know that the reaver has mastery over all elements plus time,dimension,spectral etc..
One strike of the soul reaver could finish of everyone below godlevel..

I went to wiki to see what mjolnirs exact powers are..and to see i'f he has planet destroying abbilities.

Mjolnir can be used both offensively and defensively. Thor often uses the hammer as a physical weapon, with almost nothing being capable of withstanding a hammer blow or throw. A rare exception is primary adamantium.[28] Exceptionally durable opponents such as the Silver Surfer[29] or Superman[30] can also recover from a hammer blow quickly.

Other offensive capabilities include creating vortices; emitting mystical blasts of energy; controlling electro-magnetism; molecular manipulation and generating the Geo-Blast,[31] Anti-Force,[32] and God Blast.[33]

Defensively Mjolnir can also be used to block attacks, absorb and redirect energy and by being spun in an arc repel all attacks, be they physical or energy-based.

Thor also uses Mjolnir as a means of transportation by hurling the hammer and gripping the thong on the shaft, being pulled along by the force created. Once airborne, Thor can change direction, speed and altitude.[34]
There are also other several rarely used abilities:

Mjolnir can detect illusions - Thor once commanded the hammer to strike the meta-physical villain Mephisto, who was hiding amongst false images of himself.[35]
A former religious relic, Mjolnir is lethal to undead. Thor once threw Mjolnir at a vampire, with contact causing the vampire to burst into flame and then crumble to dust.[36]
Mjolnir can project images, as Thor shows a glimpse of Asgard to a curious Iron Man.[37]
Mjolnir can drain the life force from an opponent. Thor uses this ability on the supervillain The Presence, who is forced to surrender before being reduced to a lifeless husk. [38]
Mjolnir is used as a power source to augment the abilities of an Atlantean warship.

hmm nope no planet destroying power...

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp

I went to wiki to see what mjolnirs exact powers are..and to see i'f he has planet destroying abbilities.

hmm nope no planet destroying power...

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Ummm are we forgetting one thing about Ganondorf/Ganon?

How the hell are you going to hurt him without the only two things that CAN hurt him?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Ummm are we forgetting one thing about Ganondorf/Ganon?

How the hell are you going to hurt him without the [b]only two things that CAN hurt him? [/B]

u could say the same thing about kain. he cant die becuz raziel isnt here with his soulreaver. that line of arguing is simply not for here. a decapatition works here.

none of this silver arrow talk.

How the hell are they gonna kill Kain when the only guy who could is locked up in his sword??

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
How the hell are they gonna kill Kain when the only guy who could is locked up in his sword??

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decapitations count here. but i still think kain and thanos win. its ridiculous to bring in the ways to kill each. ganondorf needs silver arrows while kain has to be kille dby raziel if anyone at all. those are out in this thread.

decapitations count here. but i still think kain and thanos win. its ridiculous to bring in the ways to kill each. ganondorf needs silver arrows while kain has to be kille dby raziel if anyone at all. those are out in this thread.

Yeah i agree it's ridicilous 😉 This battle is actually Kain vs Ganondorf because they are the closest to immortaltity of the four.. so it depends who get's knocked out first..

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Yeah i agree it's ridicilous 😉 This battle is actually Kain vs Ganondorf because they are the closest to immortaltity of the four.. so it depends who get's knocked out first..

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Thanos is also immortal because death has rejected him. He can't die either. errmm

Originally posted by quanchi112
u could say the same thing about kain. he cant die becuz raziel isnt here with his soulreaver. that line of arguing is simply not for here. a decapatition works here.

none of this silver arrow talk.

Yep. And since you took the plot devices off, both can be killed by the others. Which negates Kain's only protection from the OE. And Triforce of power>>>Soul Reaver.

quan, by turning off the plot devices, you negated the immortality.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Yep. And since you took the plot devices off, both can be killed by the others. Which negates Kain's only protection from the OE. And Triforce of power>>>Soul Reaver.

quan, by turning off the plot devices, you negated the immortality.

well the triforce of power never saved ganon from any link he has ever faced. it wont save him from kain is much greater than link. kain isnt immortal in here but he can and would still deflect the omega effect. thanos and kain for the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
well the triforce of power never saved ganon from any link he has ever faced.
That's because of the plot device of the only things that can hurt him. (light/silver arrows>Triforce of power) One might even say that Since Link is usually the Triforce of courage, its one triforce piece plus arrows and master sword vs one triforce piece.

The rest of your post was discarded as it was based off of a faulty premise.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's because of the plot device of the only things that can hurt him. (light/silver arrows>Triforce of power) One might even say that Since Link is usually the Triforce of courage, its one triforce piece plus arrows and master sword vs one triforce piece.

The rest of your post was discarded as it was based off of a faulty premise.

listen the soulreaver to me is shown in a greater and more significant light tha just the triforce of power. soulreaver in the games makes u immortal. pretty bad ass stuff. u cant be killed while the triforce pf power makes u certainly killable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
listen the soulreaver to me is shown in a greater and more significant light tha just the triforce of power.
That was very subjective sounding. Wishful thinking fallacy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
soulreaver in the games makes u immortal.
plot device. Much like with ganon the only thigns that can hurt him are the arrows and the sword. Turn off one turn off the other.

Originally posted by quanchi112
pretty bad ass stuff. u cant be killed while the triforce pf power makes u certainly killable.
Only by items that kain doesn't have.

Turn off one turn off the other... unless you're admitting to your bias like you did in the first part of your post?

Aqua pimp, you're being an idiot.

Planet destroying isn't mentioned in Eternity's or Galactus' powerset either, but they can still destroy planets.

Here are some Mjolnir/Stormbreaker feats
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/01-Thor468p19.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/01-Thor468p20and21.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Stormbreaker0308-1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Stormbreaker0309-1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Stormbreaker0310-1.jpg

Ok so what ...mjolnir can destroy planets but with the aid of mjolnir he still got his ass kicked by superman...
I'f i could pick out off the two weapons i would pick the soul reaver any day ..it makes the wielder immortal and has power over the elements and time and space..
The soul reaver is a much more usefull weapon then mjolnir, one strike could kill guys like Hulk and hercules guys thor struggles against...

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Kain can tear your soul out, incinerate you, TK you around with ease, teleport and attack you, slow down time itself and etc..

Can Ganon resist being held up by TK Shackles?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And Triforce of power>>>Soul Reaver.

Debatable. Link defeated Ganon with the Master Sword...the triforce of power left ganon after link delivered a final blow with the Master Sword.

the only precept of the master sword is that it is "capable of repelling great evil" or whatever the game described it to be...which made it ganon's bane.

going by feats i would have to say the Soul Reaver >>>> Master Sword...master sword allows user to manipulate time, same with the reaver...reaver also allows manipulation of dimension, fire, and other things that i don't recall. Above all it has the ability, obviously, to consume souls permanently.

bottom line, if the master sword can harm ganon while he has the triforce of power, there's no way you can confidently say the triforce of power is greater than the soul reaver.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
quan, by turning off the plot devices, you negated the immortality.

that's not entirely true for kain.the kain possessing the soul reaver makes kain unkillable in a logical sense, not a literal sense. because the soul reaver is the only weapon that can harm him, so as long as kain is in possession of the soul reaver, he cannot die, for obvious reasons (he would never use the weapon on himself).

what makes kain truly immortal is the heart of darkness....it's his actual heart, taken from another vampire. no matter how kain is seemingly killed the heart always reforms him (in blood omen 1) or he's just immortal (defiance). The only way to negate this is if you physically remove his heart from his body. Even then, kain still lives due to his role of scion of balance. after the heart is removed...it's unknown if kain is still invulnerable. suppose he's not.

recap:

1. soul reaver in kain's possession means the only weapon that can kill kain is in the safest place possible.
remove the soul reaver from battle, and the only weapon that can kill kain is gone.

2. kain is rendered immortal due to the heart of darkness. soul reaver is the only weapon that can supercede the heart of darkness. only way to circumvent this is to physically remove the heart from kain's body,

3. kain still lives after you remove his heart. he can now (theoretically) be killed by any fashion.

year the soulreaver makes kain kinda unbeatbale unless u get the nexus stone. anyways decaptiations count here as kain in his own game is to damn powerful with the whole immortal thing here. i have to be fair to ds team.

It's only assumed that the Soul reaver is the only thing that can kill Kain. Kain has never faced opponents on the same power level as Thanos or Darkseid. I think on OE would erase Kain in a picosecond. Outside of that, DS is physically stronger than Kain, more durable...and being a New God...would have more magic and overall power. It is conceivable that DS can one-shot Kain.