thanos,kain(legacy of kain)vs darkseid,ganondorf(legend of zelda) · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
It's only assumed that the Soul reaver is the only thing that can kill Kain. Kain has never faced opponents on the same power level as Thanos or Darkseid. I think on OE would erase Kain in a picosecond. Outside of that, DS is physically stronger than Kain, more durable...and being a New God...would have more magic and overall power. It is conceivable that DS can one-shot Kain.

its also conceivable that kain could deflect ds omega beams. kain is no joke. but dont worry becuz thanos would take care of darkseid. seeing as how easily superman can beat his ass thanos would have no problem.

kain kills ganondorf.

charlemagne9746 Modern Day Drifter

Thanos would get erased with the OE with...DS is one guy Thanos does not want to **** with

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Thanos would get erased with the OE with...DS is one guy Thanos does not want to **** with

supes beat the tar out of ds. thanos beats the tar out of silver surfer a much more powerful character every time they met. thanos would and i quote beat the crap out of darkseid. he really would crush him.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Debatable. Link defeated Ganon with the Master Sword...the triforce of power left ganon after link delivered a final blow with the Master Sword.
the only precept of the master sword is that it is "capable of repelling great evil" or whatever the game described it to be...which made it ganon's bane.
going by feats i would have to say the Soul Reaver >>>> Master Sword...master sword allows user to manipulate time, same with the reaver...reaver also allows manipulation of dimension, fire, and other things that i don't recall. Above all it has the ability, obviously, to consume souls permanently.
bottom line, if the master sword can harm ganon while he has the triforce of power, there's no way you can confidently say the triforce of power is greater than the soul reaver.

You're forgetting that even if an item only has one use, if its the only thing that can preform that use then other things regardless of how much more powerful it is... cannot preform that use. If you're going to insist

"that's not entirely true for kain.the kain possessing the soul reaver makes kain unkillable in a logical sense, not a literal sense. because the soul reaver is the only weapon that can harm him, so as long as kain is in possession of the soul reaver, he cannot die, for obvious reasons (he would never use the weapon on himself)."

Then one can insist that the Master Sword is the only thing cpable of harming Ganondorf. then we have a stalemate.

Remove the soul reaver and remove the master sword.
Remove the heart, and then you can remove the triforce of power from ganon

Both have then been rendered killable. Otherwise they are exactly on par with one another. killablewise

Tenebrous BigG > Mad Celestial Host

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're forgetting that even if an item only has one use, if its the only thing that can preform that use then other things regardless of how much more powerful it is... cannot preform that use. If you're going to insist
"that's not entirely true for kain.the kain possessing the soul reaver makes kain unkillable in a logical sense, not a literal sense. because the soul reaver is the only weapon that can harm him, so as long as kain is in possession of the soul reaver, he cannot die, for obvious reasons (he would never use the weapon on himself)."
Then one can insist that the Master Sword is the only thing cpable of harming Ganondorf. then we have a stalemate.
Remove the soul reaver and remove the master sword.
Remove the heart, and then you can remove the triforce of power from ganon
Both have then been rendered killable. Otherwise they are exactly on par with one another. killablewise

that's a fair argument but there's one potential flaw....has it ever been said tha tthe Master Sword is the *only* weapon of hurting ganon? the only special ability that i remember of the sword is that it is specifically meant to repel evil (i don't remember it ever being said that link *had* to use the master sword to defeat ganon. in fact in one of the link games, the master sword doesn't even appear, IIRC). that's a very vague, ambiguous definition. the reason why i brought up the soul reaver vs. master sword is that the soul reaver is indiscriminate....it consumes both good and evil, and it's just absurd to speculate which sword "repels evil" better.

quanchi112 Disney

thanos and kain win this. kain has proven it takes quite a lot to put him down while link beats ganons ass everygame. thanos has prove he can take a hit while ds has proven he submits to superman.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Tenebrous
that's a fair argument but there's one potential flaw....has it ever been said tha tthe Master Sword is the *only* weapon of hurting ganon? the only special ability that i remember of the sword is that it is specifically meant to repel evil (i don't remember it ever being said that link *had* to use the master sword to defeat ganon.

But you do, have you played the games? In Ocarina of time you can smack him with the Biggorn sword all you want, but he won't stop until you deliver the final blow with the master sword. Go ahead try using a weapon other than the master sword on ganon. You'll find that the games are programmed to only let you win when you use the master sword.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
in fact in one of the link games, the master sword doesn't even appear, IIRC).

Link's awakening, Ganon is absent from that game as well.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
that's a very vague, ambiguous definition. the reason why i brought up the soul reaver vs. master sword is that the soul reaver is indiscriminate....it consumes both good and evil, and it's just absurd to speculate which sword "repels evil" better.

"the only sword that can banish Ganon from the world above" - Windwaker

It has nothing to do with it simply beiong a weapon against evil, it has more to do with the mytthos of the zelda universe and being the sword that can overcome the power of the triforce.

Unless the soul reaver was specifically blessed by the goddesses of that world I can't see it overcoming their power.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos and kain win this. kain has proven it takes quite a lot to put him down while link beats ganons ass everygame. thanos has prove he can take a hit while ds has proven he submits to superman.

Only with the master sword can you beat him. Try it, try using other weapons.

You think that just any weapon will work? Prove it.

And this time pay attention to the damned story.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Creshosk
Only with the master sword can you beat him. Try it, try using other weapons.
You think that just any weapon will work? Prove it.
And this time pay attention to the damned story.

what is so hard for u to grasp about ganon and kain both dying just by anything here. decapitation kills them. how cant u grasp i ruled these in game plot devices of the only ways to kill them out.

Kahless Junior Member

ok so

gannon / gannondorf can not be killed

the master sword and light arrows and the power of all of the sages could not kill him.

instead gannon / gannondorf was trapped in the sacred realm, (from which he somehow escapes)

gannondorf kills one of the sages (who are pratically gods),

in addition, after being defeated gannondorf DID NOT lose the triforce of power, it went with him to the sacred realm

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kahless
ok so
gannon / gannondorf can not be killed
the master sword and light arrows and the power of all of the sages could not kill him.
instead gannon / gannondorf was trapped in the sacred realm, (from which he somehow escapes)
gannondorf kills one of the sages (who are pratically gods),
in addition, after being defeated gannondorf DID NOT lose the triforce of power, it went with him to the sacred realm

kain hasnt died in any of his games after he became a vampire while ganon dies all the time. barring the plot devices so we can get a winner kain kills ganondorf.