Originally posted by InnerRiseI know you're just eggin me on but okay. In WW before the fight with him, Ganon runs about 30-40 feet to Link and knocks him out, showing great acceleration and speed. In TP when breaking off the wall, the instant he breaks his chains he is already in front of the Sage and kills him with a punch. Show me Link moving at speeds that fast.
Ganon is SSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW.Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I know you're just eggin me on but okay. In WW before the fight with him, Ganon runs about 30-40 feet to Link and knocks him out, showing great acceleration and speed. In TP when breaking off the wall, the instant he breaks his chains he is already in front of the Sage and kills him with a punch. Show me Link moving at speeds that fast.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Wanna bet that's he's slower? I'll prove you wrong.The first thing Ganondorf does is charge Link. You may claim that's gameplay but the AI isn't bound to such things as the player is. The AI can do things in actually gameplay a player can never do. Now we see that Link is more than able to overpower Ganondorf when they lock swords.
Now you may try to disprove this with this:
YouTube video
Sorry for the length, only one I could find with Ganondorf beating the crap out of Link. Skip to like 5 minutes to see what I'm talking about.
YouTube videoOkay (A) we clearly see that both cases he's flying. Flying doesn't mean you can wield a sword faster then someone and (B) both cases he had the Triforce of Power. Notice in Twilight Princess that the Triforce of Power was giving Ganondorf increased power. Wouldn't that increased power also mean increased speed? His strength was increased. So is there anyway to prove my words? YES! The same video I showed before in Wind Waker.
Now go way down near the end of the video to see what I am talking about. And I do mean near the end. Notice the DRAMATIC speed drop from when he KOed Link to when he KOed Zelda.
And what was that post supposed to prove? Yes, Ganon is restricted in gameplay, sure he can do things the player can't, but that really proves nothing. Link in TP showed some feats of strength to be sure, but really, since we know Ganon can increase his strength with ToP, why did he not do it then when it really counted? I dare you to tell me that Link can output more strength than Ganon when amped by ToP, which is the power of a God. Also, in the WW vid, you really can't prove he was flying, we could not see if his feet touched the ground or not, and also Ganon's lower body is MUCH smaller than his upper body in WW due to it's graphics(his feet are as small as Links!). I never claimed he can wield a sword faster than Link, which would be hard considering how Ganon's swords are friggin huge and Link's is not, but even if he was flying it's still faster than Link has ever been. As for Ganon's slow speed while knocking out Zelda, this isn't the first time the Zelda series has contradicted itself(in OoT when Megaton Hammer hurts Ganon but in WW nuthin but MS will) and just because he moved slower in that scene doesn't mean the events when he has shown great speed never occured. And yes, maybe he used the ToP to increase his speed, but guess what? He has it, and always will have it til he dies, which is impossible as ToP makes him immortal. Also, you can't prove Ganon was using ToP to increase his speed or strength, if you think it was because it was glowing, it was only glowing because it just revived him, tho it doesn't matter either way.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeI liked WW, hell I liked it more than TP. Why are you LOLing at me? Oh and Link in no way "owned" Ganon, if your remember Ganon was double teamed, and also there was no possible way they could lose. King Hyrule wished on the Triforce to give Link and Tetra a future, so there was no way they could have died.
LOL@V2DI always loved Wind Waker. Especially the way Link totally owned Ganon's ass. Shame non-believers dismissed the game because of the "childish" graphics.
I LOL because it's impossible for you to admit anything negative about Ganon.
Yes I would call Ownage evading 2 sword slashes and then jumping several into the air to come down and slam a sword in my opponent's forhead.
That's pawnage. Not as bad as Cloud's AC pawnage of Seph, but pawnage never the less.
You use excuses to try and make a point defending Ganon. That's all you do.
There's no way to deny Link owned Ganon when he impaled the Master Sword on his head. It does not matter if Link and Zelda were immortal or not because newsflash; Ganon didn't get to fatally wound either of them.
I won't argue with you on the matter though because I don't care about it 1/4 as much as you do.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeI know Ganon lost, due to plot devices. The most obvious one is the MS, then theres the fact he was double teamed, and also the Triforce wish King made. And my argument with ESB was primarily on Ganon's speed. And Ganon was defeated, not owned, owned would be if he was curbstomped with little effort by Link.
You use excuses to try and make a point defending Ganon. That's all you do.There's no way to deny Link owned Ganon when he impaled the Master Sword on his head. It does not matter if Link and Zelda were immortal or not because newsflash; Ganon didn't get to fatally wound either of them.
I won't argue with you on the matter though because I don't care about it 1/4 as much as you do.
Krelian....
Yu see, Elly forgave him. And he was only trying to help humanity.
Then you remember going through his Lab and the Wels and the horrors he created. People who can only live by killing and having blood to try and relieve the agony of their existence.
Then you also remember he orchestrated the murder of the Emperor who was doing his absolute best to repent for his sins and help humanity. Manipulating a thoroughly broken and desperate man into commiting murder against the Emperor, plotting to fill the murderer's mind and life with the idea of being absolute nothing and trash.
I HATE KRELIAN.
But I hate him 'cause he's a good villain.
Unlike Sephiroth.