Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43Well I wasn't really fully serious but it's likely, Iroh is Ozai's older brother, he has more experience, and was a revered general.
When was it ever stated or shown that Oozai is weaker than Iroh? I'm serious, I've never heard that Iroh was stronger since we've never truly seen Oozai in action.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well I wasn't really fully serious but it's likely, Iroh is Ozai's older brother, he has more experience, and was a revered general.
Age isn't really saying anything & as for experience, as far as we know, Oozai has perfect lightning abilities as well as many other powers. I seriously doubt Iroh is stronger than Oozai.
Originally posted by leonheartmmUmm, yeah, PARADOX. There is no "American anime." Anime is Japanese animation. It doesn't matter what you people think when it's universal knowledge that a cartoon created by Nickelodeon is not anime.
well its one of the very few WESTERN/AMERICAN animes thats good{yes, it kinda is an anime, only an american one. even most anime magazines consider it one and one of the best}.still nuthing on naruto and bleach.
Further, it's Ozai. Not Oozai.
Back on topic, I love this show and can't wait for September 21st.
Originally posted by whitewolfgurlLet me guess: you actually haven't seen an episode of Avatar. Yeah, "to make small children laugh" my ass. What an ignorant thing to say.
The Avatar is a good show but it doesn't beat Naruto, Bleach, InuYasha, and Fullmetal Alchemist! ❌ I think it was made mostly for making small children laugh...while other animes (you know the ones with the age limit) are the really good ones. ✅
Let me guess: you actually haven't seen an episode of Avatar. Yeah, "to make small children laugh" my ass. What an ignorant thing to say. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have so seen the show!!! I'm talking about at the beginnings when Ang first appears and acts all goofy. But now it's not like that so much. Yeah it's getting more detailed so to speak and more interesting...far more than some kids can understand yeah. I meant no offense... 🙁
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43Iroh can manipulate lightning and can redirect it, which is a technique entirely of his creation so Ozai can't know it. Iroh fought to get past the walls of Ba Sing Se for at least a year and only pulled out because of the death of his son.
Age isn't really saying anything & as for experience, as far as we know, Oozai has perfect lightning abilities as well as many other powers. I seriously doubt Iroh is stronger than Oozai.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43What do you mean it doesn't matter how it's spelled? If I spelled Ozai as Fgdsg would you understand me? Further, Japanese is the language of Japan, not the country.
It doesn't matter how it's spelled & I don't believe that an anime has to be made in Japanese to be an actual anime.
And sorry to break it to you but anime is universally defined as Japanese animation. I'm quite perplexed at how you continually insist that Avatar is one. Anime is not an adjective you can use on your every whim.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeI agree. Even if we were to assume that Ozai has perfect lighting abilities (which hasn't been seen yet on the show), they would be of no use to Iroh.
Iroh can manipulate lightning and can redirect it, which is a technique entirely of his creation so Ozai can't know it. Iroh fought to get past the walls of Ba Sing Se for at least a year and only pulled out because of the death of his son.
Ultimately, we can only speculate thus far.
Oh please, it doesn't matter if it's spelled Oozai or Ozai so get over yourself. Also, I consider it an anime, you don't, too bad.
As for Iroh & Ozai, since Iroh isn't the Firelord that's what leads me to believe Ozai is stronger & is a bigger threat. And when was it said that Iroh created the lighting technique? And since Azula has it, of course Ozai has it as well. Ozai>Iroh>Azula>Zuko
Originally posted by whitewolfgurl
Let me guess: you actually haven't seen an episode of Avatar. Yeah, "to make small children laugh" my ass. What an ignorant thing to say.
I have so seen the show!!! I'm talking about at the beginnings when Ang first appears and acts all goofy. But now it's not like that so much. Yeah it's getting more detailed so to speak and more interesting...far more than some kids can understand yeah. I meant no offense... 🙁 [/B][/QUOTE]
Still, the show was never aimed to make young children laugh, that's still a ridiculous comment. And what show are you watching? The show has always had some comedic areas, even since the beginning but there are also some serious parts that children don't understand or scientific explanations that occur in the show that children aren't old enough to understand.
For starters, Avatar is not an anime.
Second, a thread already exists in the proper forum.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=329735
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43No, he didn't make the lightning creation technique, he made a technique to redirect it, he can absorb it in one hand and shoot it back at the attacker with his other hand. Also, Zuko and Azula are now dead even IMO, she used to be stronger but now it's far closer. Ozai is only the Fire Lord because he cheated his way into the position, don't know how yet but it's assumed he killed his father and wrote a fake will, Iroh was supposed to be Fire Lord.
As for Iroh & Ozai, since Iroh isn't the Firelord that's what leads me to believe Ozai is stronger & is a bigger threat. And when was it said that Iroh created the lighting technique? And since Azula has it, of course Ozai has it as well. Ozai>Iroh>Azula>Zuko
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43The world doesn't revolve around you. Facts aren't suspended in limbo awaiting your approval. You get over yourself, thanks.
Oh please, it doesn't matter if it's spelled Oozai or Ozai so get over yourself. Also, I consider it an anime, you don't, too bad.
As for Iroh & Ozai, since Iroh isn't the Firelord that's what leads me to believe Ozai is stronger & is a bigger threat. And when was it said that Iroh created the lighting technique?[/B]Iroh was supposed to be Firelord. Azulon wanted him to be. He was killed, however, and Ozai usurped it. Iroh was too distraught with his son's death to give a damn.
The lightning redirecting technique was indeed created by Iroh. He invented it by studying the waterbending art.
And since Azula has it, of course Ozai has it as well.
P.S. - I love how you stop spelling his name incorrectly after saying it doesn't matter. Nice. 😆
Originally posted by Zhao
The world doesn't revolve around you. Facts aren't suspended in limbo awaiting your approval. You get over yourself, thanks.Iroh was supposed to be Firelord. Azulon wanted him to be. He was killed, however, and Ozai usurped it. Iroh was too distraught with his son's death to give a damn.
The lightning redirecting technique was indeed created by Iroh. He invented it by studying the waterbending art.
Azula is a prodigy. So what if she knows lightning, we don't know if Ozai knows it as well; we will never know until Season 3 is shown. For all we know, Ozai is as weak as a peasant.
P.S. - I love how you stop spelling his name incorrectly after saying it doesn't matter. Nice. 😆
I never said the world revolves around me because it doesn't. The sooner you realize that it doesn't matter who considers it an anime & who doesn't, the sooner you'll get over yourself.
Yeah, I forgot about all of that as I haven't seen some of the episodes in a long while. And yeah, Iroh took the death of his son pretty bad, even I felt like crying during that episode where he was remembering what happened to his son.
I doubt Oozai is truly weak but if Iroh is stronger than him, Oozai shouldn't be far behind. For all we know, even though Aang has basically mastered all of the four elements, he could still have trouble with Oozai everything that has been said will only be speculation until the season three premiere airs. But if Oozai is as weak as everyone protests & Zuko has been trained by Iroh who everyone claims to be stronger than Oozai, could that mean Zuko is stronger or close to being stronger than Oozai? I mean, he did defeat Admiral Zhao & has since trained.
It doesn't matter how I spell it, if there are more than one spelling for a name, I'll use a different spelling a lot of the time just like when I'm on other boards I'll say Oozai or Ozai in which it doesn't really matter which one is used because they are pronounced the same.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43When almost everyone thus far has disagreed with you that Avatar is not an anime it would be wise to disregard your incorrect view and admit you're wrong. I'll repeat: It is a fact that anime refers to Japanese animation. It's not an adjective. Get over yourself. Avatar is an American cartoon. Shall I go ahead and draw pictures?
I never said the world revolves around me because it doesn't. The sooner you realize that it doesn't matter who considers it an anime & who doesn't, the sooner you'll get over yourself.
I doubt Oozai is truly weak but if Iroh is stronger than him, Oozai shouldn't be far behind. For all we know, even though Aang has basically mastered all of the four elements, he could still have trouble with Oozai everything that has been said will only be speculation until the season three premiere airs. But if Oozai is as weak as everyone protests & Zuko has been trained by Iroh who everyone claims to be stronger than Oozai, could that mean Zuko is stronger or close to being stronger than Oozai? I mean, he did defeat Admiral Zhao & has since trained.I've never said Ozai is weaker than Iroh or vice versa. What I'm trying to get across is that you can't claim that one is more powerful than the other (which you have done), because the final Season hasn't aired yet.
It doesn't matter how I spell it, if there are more than one spelling for a name, I'll use a different spelling a lot of the time just like when I'm on other boards I'll say Oozai or Ozai in which it doesn't really matter which one is used because they are pronounced the same.You are so right. There is more than one way to spell a word. Too bad that's not relevant in this case since it's established OZAI is spelled OZAI. Unless the creators have said you can spell it as Oozai, there is no variation of the name. Get over yourself. You spelled it wrong and won't admit it. Geesh.
AND they are not pronounced the same. Oozai is assuming you pronounce it as Ooze-ai. That's incorrect.
P.S- I love how you revert to spelling Ozai incorrectly. Nice. 😆 😆