KMC Team Battle Zone Discussion thread

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darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Rewmac
I don't think so...If so King Thor would be Skyfather level. Yet he didn't seemed skyfather he wasn't as powerful as Odin.

King Thor WAS skyfather level, in fact he's the skyfather we were originally discussing. Now did King Thor seem as powerful as Odin....no. But just because he wasn't as powerful as the MOST powerful Skyfather in Marvel, that doesn't mean that he's not Skyfather level himself. Think about it, Nova(Frankie) is a herald level character, but that doesn't mean that she's as powerful as Silver Surfer.

llagrok Restricted
Originally posted by darthgoober
King Thor WAS skyfather level, in fact he's the skyfather we were originally discussing. Now did King Thor seem as powerful as Odin....no. But just because he wasn't as powerful as the MOST powerful Skyfather in Marvel, that doesn't mean that he's not Skyfather level himself. Think about it, Nova(Frankie) is a herald level character, but that doesn't mean that she's as powerful as Silver Surfer.

My sentiments exactly.

darthgoober Senior Member

What(if any) restrictions should be in place to minimize "cheap" tactics for Battle Zone fights? I'm talking about things like offensive transmutation, time manipulation, and summoning an entire army of constructs. Should we allow those things since they're part of our characters, or bar them the way we do in actual tourneys? I'm more inclined to allow them than bar them because the way I see it if your going to issue/accept a challenge you should be aware of your opponents abilities before hand so you should know whether or not you have a legitimate shot at winning WITH those tactics in play. So what do you guys think?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord
Originally posted by darthgoober
What(if any) restrictions should be in place to minimize "cheap" tactics for Battle Zone fights? I'm talking about things like offensive transmutation, time manipulation, and summoning an entire army of constructs. Should we allow those things since they're part of our characters, or bar them the way we do in actual tourneys? I'm more inclined to allow them than bar them because the way I see it if your going to issue/accept a challenge you should be aware of your opponents abilities before hand so you should know whether or not you have a legitimate shot at winning WITH those tactics in play. So what do you guys think?

I say let them in. It's high time we tried fighting with these guys with no handicaps.

Besides, we are trying to debate them at their best, so we should be able to make use of all their abilities.

Creshosk Senior Member

Is there going to be some sort of combat system established to avoid devolving into debates about every single little action, like parry/dodge vs attack or something?

llagrok Restricted
Originally posted by darthgoober
What(if any) restrictions should be in place to minimize "cheap" tactics for Battle Zone fights? I'm talking about things like offensive transmutation, time manipulation, and summoning an entire army of constructs. Should we allow those things since they're part of our characters, or bar them the way we do in actual tourneys? I'm more inclined to allow them than bar them because the way I see it if your going to issue/accept a challenge you should be aware of your opponents abilities before hand so you should know whether or not you have a legitimate shot at winning WITH those tactics in play. So what do you guys think?

In think we should allow them.

It's basically like giving certain characters a handicap. It wouldn't work because then you would deny a character access to a vital power. Certain characters wouldn't have earned their rank at the tier list without those powers, which means that the matchups would be wrong.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I say let them in. It's high time we tried fighting with these guys with no handicaps.

Besides, we are trying to debate them at their best, so we should be able to make use of all their abilities.


Originally posted by llagrok
In think we should allow them.

It's basically like giving certain characters a handicap. It wouldn't work because then you would deny a character access to a vital power. Certain characters wouldn't have earned their rank at the tier list without those powers, which means that the matchups would be wrong.


Sounds about right to me. I'm still open to reasons against allowing them, but as things stand the matches will be pretty much no holds barred.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Is there going to be some sort of combat system established to avoid devolving into debates about every single little action, like parry/dodge vs attack or something?

Tourney debates aren't typically that detailed, so I don't see it being much of a problem. That kind of thing is normally just handled by showing evidence that you'll be able to avoid the attacks in question and then letting the judges decide who had the right of it. Specific actions aren't normally much of a concern(THOSE kinds of debates would take forever).

Nike Blackout

Sign me up

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Nike
Sign me up

You'll have to wait until it's up and running, and you'll have to join a team.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Just out of curiosity, those of us on multiple teams have to declare for one during this tournament? Or can we enter on behalf of more than 1 team?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Just out of curiosity, those of us on multiple teams have to declare for one during this tournament? Or can we enter on behalf of more than 1 team?

For the most part, you'll only be allowed to rep one team. The only exception will be something like the AMC/Illuminate alliance(which will be listed as a single team on the roster) due to their close ties and public alliance. But even members of both of those teams will be confined to each member using only ONE of their rep characters, they won't be allowed to flip flop back and forth to pick the character that's best for the occasion.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Thats what I wanted to touch on. Like my team we just all represent "ourselves" for lack of a better word.

After a while anyways, those who represent only one person and can only do battle with one person will grow bored. Why not have them be able to switch characters based on the challengers and powerlevels? That way you can always know you will have people you can challenge and be able to agree using different characters so it is not always the same characters doing battle.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Thats what I wanted to touch on. Like my team we just all represent "ourselves" for lack of a better word.

After a while anyways, those who represent only one person and can only do battle with one person will grow bored. Why not have them be able to switch characters based on the challengers and powerlevels? That way you can always know you will have people you can challenge and be able to agree using different characters so it is not always the same characters doing battle.

Should we write up the characters for the Royals? Or is that something you're waiting to do until after the tourny you were talking about back in the home thread?

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Its one of the things I was thinking of doing....but really having an "open bar" system I think would work better here. I mean after a while we will all know who has herald level characters, who has Ironman level characters, ect and who we can and cannot challenge because of it. If you let the two challengers decide what tier they want then pick characters from there, you can create more battles, and a less stale atmostphere.

darthgoober Senior Member

The thing is, people could actually do all that stuff right now. Digi said before(and I doubt that pr or Ill have a problem with it now) that he didn't mind people creating threads for solo debates. I don't MIND if people have those types of matches(and I might even be willing to keep track of the win/loss record for everyone in that situation), it's just the only the "official" matches between people using their rep characters will count toward the team standings and rankings.

Priest Senior Member

I like the idea.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Priest
I like the idea.

You mean the idea for the "Battle Zone" in general, or Blair's idea about being able to switch people out?

Priest Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean the idea for the "Battle Zone" in general, or Blair's idea about being able to switch people out?

the idea in general is good...
is would spice up the vs forum more since its been kinda lacking as of late 😬

SnazzySmurph tu quoqumber

All right, I gots a question.

If I were to say to my team that the current characters that they have must be their main characters, but, for the possible option of Battle Zone, they're allowed to pick, say, two or three additional characters as a "roster" of sorts, is that legal?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
All right, I gots a question.

If I were to say to my team that the current characters that they have must be their main characters, but, for the possible option of Battle Zone, they're allowed to pick, say, two or three additional characters as a "roster" of sorts, is that legal?


I'll probably allow that kind of thing later on if it becomes necessary, but in the beginning everyone will be restricted to using the characters they represent on their team.